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#241 devilsfan26

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:02 AM

More Clarkson!!!!!!

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:03 AM

On the one hand, I'm not happy with the return, but on the other hand, he has 7 non-EN goals in his last 56 games and makes nearly $3 million a year - how much could we expect back? It all depended on whether teams were going to buy into the gritty mcgrit thing.


Don't forget he scored the GWG in the last game of the season against Buffalo last year which guaranteed we would play Philly when we should have played Boston.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:03 AM

Geez... Makes u wonder what the flyers offered then? A 8th and 9th round pick or what?


The Flyers probably offered something better, but neither Langs nor Lou wanted a trade with them.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:03 AM

1. Its great Langs is finally gone. He has presided over 3 monumental playoff failures (Losing to our two biggest rivals in 5 games, with the Devils showing no heart or competitiveness in both series, and blowing the series vs Carolina). We also needed to shed salary and get younger.

2. I think we couldve at least gotten a 2nd rd pick for him

3. This could give us some room to get Salvador back in the lineup when he gets healthy (presuming hes still not, and actually out due to injury and not cap issues)
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:03 AM

What an awful return. I wanted Jamie gone, but he should have had some real (2nd round) value. We gave up what will turn into essentially a late 1st rounder for Arnott -- I don't see their values being that different (to a non-Devils team where Jamie wasn't pouting for the last 11 months). What value have the Devils ever pulled out of the 3rd round? Nevermind -- they usually can't do sh!t with their first round pick.

I hope Vanderbeek has let Lou know that the clock is ticking and he's not pleased with recent performances. What a sh!tshow the last year or so has been. He had a shot to do something new and progressive about a year and a half ago... then he hired Jacques Lemaire.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:04 AM

Josefsen will get some ice time now!

a) isn't he still injured?
b) we have Jacques Lemaire. I bet he'd still have Stamkos in the minors because of the age.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:05 AM

:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:



Clarkson has shown that he can be a good 4th liner as of late. However, he's a grossly overpaid 4th liner.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:05 AM

What an awful return. I wanted Jamie gone, but he should have had some real (2nd round) value. We gave up what will turn into essentially a late 1st rounder for Arnott -- I don't see their values being that different (to a non-Devils team where Jamie wasn't pouting for the last 11 months). What value have the Devils ever pulled out of the 3rd round? Nevermind -- they usually can't do sh!t with their first round pick.


5 out of the devils last 6 1st round picks dating back to 2002 appear to be NHL players. That's Parise, Zajac, Bergfors, Tedenby, and Josefson.

Two of the Devils' best prospects, Adam Henrique and Alex Urbom, were 3rd round picks.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:06 AM

Langenbrunner was going to be a UFA, so unless the Devils re-signed him his salary wouldn't hinder the signing of Parise.


Correct, but you were still paying him real American dollars. This was simply a cost cutting move, as much as it was moving an aging vet that feuded with the coach, earlier the better as far as Vanderbeek was concerned. JVB has spent WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY more than what was budgeted for this team for 2010-11. Why do you think Lemaire is back coaching? Free is free.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:06 AM

I can't believe people are bitching about the return for Langs, What did anyone honestly expect? He's not a top 6 forward and he has one year left on his contract. If we were the ones trading for him do you think we'd give up more than a third? Well we potentially got a 2nd round pick, so shaddup everyone.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:08 AM

5 out of the devils last 6 1st round picks dating back to 2002 appear to be NHL players. That's Parise, Zajac, Bergfors, Tedenby, and Josefson.

Two of the Devils' best prospects, Adam Henrique and Alex Urbom, were 3rd round picks.


Says the same person who has said losing a 1st rd pick is not a big deal
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:08 AM

Thanks for the years Langs. He was always good to the fans too.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:08 AM

On the one hand, I'm not happy with the return, but on the other hand, he has 7 non-EN goals in his last 56 games and makes nearly $3 million a year - how much could we expect back? It all depended on whether teams were going to buy into the gritty mcgrit thing.


In bold (and add in that he's 35 and had to waive his NTC): why would anyone think the Devils were going to get a lot for him? I don't see how anyone could have expected much more.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:09 AM

I can't believe people are bitching about the return for Langs, What did anyone honestly expect? He's not a top 6 forward and he has one year left on his contract. If we were the ones trading for him do you think we'd give up more than a third? Well we potentially got a 2nd round pick, so shaddup everyone.



Have you seen the signings we've made lately? We probably would be paying him 5 mil for 5 years like a certain number 12.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:09 AM

I can't believe people are bitching about the return for Langs, What did anyone honestly expect? He's not a top 6 forward and he has one year left on his contract. If we were the ones trading for him do you think we'd give up more than a third? Well we potentially got a 2nd round pick, so shaddup everyone.


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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:09 AM

We essentially traded for, at best, a 25 perecent chance of getting an NHL caliber playing sometime down the road. Maybe Lou got the message from VBK to dump as much salary as possible in an attempt to boost the bottom-line, which will be pretty pathetic this year when all is said and done. What a let down.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:11 AM

From TG:

The Devils get a second-round pick if the Stars win a first-round playoff series or if they re-sign Langenbrunner, a potential UFA, before July 1. If the Stars don’t win a playoff round and re-sign Langenbrunner after July 1, the Devils still get the Stars 2011 third-round pick and will also get the Stars’ 2012 second-round pick and send their 2012 third-rounder to Dallas


How the hell did they come up with that deal it must have got confusing!!

So stars Win in the Playoffs/Resign pre july 1st Langs:

Devils Recieve: Stars 2nd Round pick 2011


Stars dont win playoff round or resign Langs before 1st July:

Devils Get:Dallas 3rd 2011 AND 2nd 2012
Dallas gets: Devils 3rd 2012


Change of Plan Dallas to fail.

Or have i got this all wrong??

Edited by Chimaira_Devil_#9, 07 January 2011 - 11:13 AM.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:11 AM

I can't believe people are bitching about the return for Langs, What did anyone honestly expect? He's not a top 6 forward and he has one year left on his contract. If we were the ones trading for him do you think we'd give up more than a third? Well we potentially got a 2nd round pick, so shaddup everyone.


If you can't get anything of significance for a player that isn't a salary albatross for the next year or two (e.g. Roston, Zubrus) than there's no point in making a trade right now, unless the goal is to save money.

EDIT: If the conditions are met whereby we get a second rounder, then the deal is palatable.

Edited by Daniel, 07 January 2011 - 11:12 AM.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:11 AM

Correct, but you were still paying him real American dollars. This was simply a cost cutting move, as much as it was moving an aging vet that feuded with the coach, earlier the better as far as Vanderbeek was concerned. JVB has spent WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY more than what was budgeted for this team for 2010-11. Why do you think Lemaire is back coaching? Free is free.

That's true, I was just making the point that this trade has nothing to do with re-signing Parise.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:12 AM

But hes got great 'leadership'...
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