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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:52 AM

As I am easily confused and not as rabid a follower as some, we lose one of our next four 1st rounders to Bettman and crew, and didn't we also throw in another 1st rounder in the Kovy deal? When do we have to fork over the 1st to Atlanta?


It was last years 1st to Atlanta, so that part is already fulfilled.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:52 AM

I dont care how fvcked we are with the Cap and this season, 1 3rd round pick for our captain is a fvcking insult. Didnt even get a prospect. :doh1:
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:54 AM

Good deal. You aren't going to get better for a guy with a NTC. I would have liked to have Dallas include a nothing prospect in the deal so I could get excited about him, but this is a decent return.

Although I like the trade for Dallas much more than I like it for the Devils, it was clear for months the Devils needed to trade the guy.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:57 AM

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:57 AM

It was last years 1st to Atlanta, so that part is already fulfilled.


Did we lose a first rounder as a penalty by the league in this years draft?
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:59 AM

if you don't know what the conditions are, it's pretty silly to judge this deal quite yet. this is what you get for not waiting for the deadline, by the way - values go down, not up, because teams don't want the extra salary.


Oh please...Wisniewski got a 2nd and a 5th a couple of weeks ago. If anything teams need players sooner with all the parity and Jamie's salary's not that prohibitive. $1.4 million for half a season.

If you'd told me a few days ago we were getting a third for Jamie I'd say fine...but with all the reports of multiple picks, prospects, whatever - a 3rd does feel like a dissapointment. That said Lou might have had better offers but I'm sure he had to come to Jamie with a list of teams that he could waive the NTC for and Jamie picked Dallas for obvious reasons.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 11:59 AM

Did we lose a first rounder as a penalty by the league in this years draft?


No, the Devils lose a first round pick sometime in the next, I believe, 4 drafts. It's up to the Devils discretion to choose which draft that happens in.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:02 PM

Conditional first, really?

Greene a UFA after this season is going to bring a 2nd as well? Why?


1.) Weak draft, teams will be tossing away picks this year like it is nothing.
2.) Greene can fit on any cap crunched team, there will be a bidding war for him.
3.) Arnott should have 3 teams that really need a big center chasing after him. Washington or St Louis could really use him.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:02 PM

No, the Devils lose a first round pick sometime in the next, I believe, 4 drafts. It's up to the Devils discretion to choose which draft that happens in.



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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:02 PM

That's true, I was just making the point that this trade has nothing to do with re-signing Parise.


Of course it does, professional sports is not played with phantom money, every penny saved is potentially a penny saved for Parise. The fiscal health of this team is as signifigant a factor in keeping #9 as say the cap situation, or even Parise's desire to stay.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:02 PM

I didnt want just a draft pick for our captain. Draft picks wont help us next season. We are going to be in the exact same position next season and Zajac will go.

its not even a guarantee that we get a pick for this coming draft. It could be in 2012.

The Devils will get a pick in this year's draft no matter what. From the way I understand it, the Devils are assured of at least getting the Stars' 2011 3rd round pick. If the Stars win a round this year, that pick becomes the Stars 2011 2nd rounder. In addition, if Langenbrunner resigns in Dallas, the Devils will send their 2012 3rd rounder to Dallas for the Stars 2012 2nd rounder.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:03 PM

I didnt want just a draft pick for our captain. Draft picks wont help us next season. We are going to be in the exact same position next season and Zajac will go.

its not even a guarantee that we get a pick for this coming draft. It could be in 2012.


Yes we do, go back and read it. we will at least ve one pick in this years draft.

a THIRD ROUND pick.

:doh1: I knew it had to be bad to take that long... I went with THE LOWEST possible doable option in my post before the announcement. And that's what they had to go with --- and it was only done as a favor.... not to Lou but for Jamie.

This organization is SO EFFED IN THE A!


Calm PK, its really not that bad, we weren't resigning the guy, he has limited value, we seem to have got a half decent return. Better than letting him walk in July, then we got jack.


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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:03 PM

NTC fellas! Langs basically got to decide where he was going. Dallas made the offer.....we shed $2.9.....Lou took what he could get......end of story.

I would have much rather dealt Rolston's salary. But noone was buying that contract even at half price. More moves will be made and don't expect much in return. Teams will take advantage of our situation.....you can bet on it!


We shed $2.9 million in cap space for the rest of this year only. It's not a Rolston-esque albaltross that the team ridded itself of.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:04 PM

Ugh! I'm hopeful we can return to form next season but I think we won't see the playoffs until like 2017.


Give me even money on the Devils making the playoffs next year and I will bet up to 200 dollars.

I dont care how fvcked we are with the Cap and this season, 1 3rd round pick for our captain is a fvcking insult. Didnt even get a prospect. :doh1:


Have you watched Jamie Langenbrunner play? He is Grant Marshall with a slap shot.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:05 PM

The Devils will get a pick in this year's draft no matter what. From the way I understand it, the Devils are assured of at least getting the Stars' 2011 3rd round pick. If the Stars win a round this year, that pick becomes the Stars 2011 2nd rounder. In addition, if Langenbrunner resigns in Dallas, the Devils will send their 2012 3rd rounder to Dallas for the Stars 2012 2nd rounder.

so it could potentially turn into two 2nds.

Not bad Imo
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:06 PM

It was last years 1st to Atlanta, so that part is already fulfilled.


Cool, thanks for that :)



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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:06 PM

Oh please...Wisniewski got a 2nd and a 5th a couple of weeks ago. If anything teams need players sooner with all the parity and Jamie's salary's not that prohibitive. $1.4 million for half a season.

If you'd told me a few days ago we were getting a third for Jamie I'd say fine...but with all the reports of multiple picks, prospects, whatever - a 3rd does feel like a dissapointment. That said Lou might have had better offers but I'm sure he had to come to Jamie with a list of teams that he could waive the NTC for and Jamie picked Dallas for obvious reasons.


Multiple picks was obviously a 3rd and a 5th from Philly....pick your poison.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:08 PM

From TG:



How the hell did they come up with that deal it must have got confusing!!

So stars Win in the Playoffs/Resign pre july 1st Langs:

Devils Recieve: Stars 2nd Round pick 2011


Stars dont win playoff round or resign Langs before 1st July:

Devils Get:Dallas 3rd 2011 AND 2nd 2012
Dallas gets: Devils 3rd 2012


Change of Plan Dallas to fail.

Or have i got this all wrong??


Okay that's a bit better than the 'conditional 3rd' that was reported. I'd rather have the 2nd this year since we don't currently have one but then again the 2nd next year from Dallas could be more valuable.

Multiple picks was obviously a 3rd and a 5th from Philly....pick your poison.



Well yeah I didn't want him going to Philly or Pittsburgh, really if you're trading in division they have to be far and away the best offer imo.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 07 January 2011 - 12:11 PM.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:08 PM

What's all this about a weak draft? Anything compared to the drafts from 2003-2010 would be considered weak drafts, but those were exceptions to the rule. Because we're not hearing anything now doesn't mean that this is specifically a weak draft. The draft is 5 months away. I didn't hear anything about Seguin or Hall last year until like March.
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:08 PM

I didnt want just a draft pick for our captain. Draft picks wont help us next season. We are going to be in the exact same position next season and Zajac will go.

its not even a guarantee that we get a pick for this coming draft. It could be in 2012.

Nobody was going to trade an established roster player for a rental who isn't really that good.
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