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[vadvlfan]

Do you wanna bet lou will trade this pick (shortly)for a roster player?

[Jas0nMacIsaac]

Langenbrunner is already being used better then he was in NJ. He is being used in a checking role on the 3rd line with Burish and Ott. Why couldn't a coach in NJ use him properly?

[MadDog2020]

Yes we do, go back and read it. we will at least ve one pick in this years draft.



Calm PK, its really not that bad, we weren't resigning the guy, he has limited value, we seem to have got a half decent return. Better than letting him walk in July, then we got jack.


*puts on best Lou Voice*

"Our next lot is, lot number 25, this peice comes with some slight damage but will still be an effective center peice in any home. Following this we have lots number 6 which is higlhy sought after and has a low estimate, followed by lot number 23 which just fell off the display stand, without being hit, this lot has no reserve"

Lmfao, that's classic CD.

[Triumph]

Oh please...Wisniewski got a 2nd and a 5th a couple of weeks ago. If anything teams need players sooner with all the parity and Jamie's salary's not that prohibitive. $1.4 million for half a season.

If you'd told me a few days ago we were getting a third for Jamie I'd say fine...but with all the reports of multiple picks, prospects, whatever - a 3rd does feel like a dissapointment. That said Lou might have had better offers but I'm sure he had to come to Jamie with a list of teams that he could waive the NTC for and Jamie picked Dallas for obvious reasons.

so you think that lou deliberately didn't want to get a 2nd round pick? is that what you are saying? i think langenbrunner is a worse player than wisniewski at this point in their careers, but even if you don't think that, you have to think they're at least close and that one has a no-trade.

Langenbrunner is already being used better then he was in NJ. He is being used in a checking role on the 3rd line with Burish and Ott. Why couldn't a coach in NJ use him properly?

we don't really have a checking line, and we have clarkson for that role. lou basically admitted that they were going to give langs less ice time, so they said let's not do that and they traded him.

[Devils731]

so it could potentially turn into two 2nds.

Not bad Imo

I don't believe it can.

Neither party can be unfairly enriched through a gaming of the clauses. So the Devils are going to net one 2nd round pick in a draft, if one of the clauses is met, or the Devils will net one 3rd round pick, if no clauses are met.

[devilsfan26]

The Devils will get a pick in this year's draft no matter what. From the way I understand it, the Devils are assured of at least getting the Stars' 2011 3rd round pick. If the Stars win a round this year, that pick becomes the Stars 2011 2nd rounder. In addition, if Langenbrunner resigns in Dallas, the Devils will send their 2012 3rd rounder to Dallas for the Stars 2012 2nd rounder.

so it could potentially turn into two 2nds.

Not bad Imo

I'm pretty sure we can't get two second round picks.

If the Stars win a playoff round or re-sign Langenbrunner before July 1st, we get a 2nd this year.

If the Stars don't win a playoff round and re-sign Langenbrunner after July 1st, we get a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year in exchange for our 3rd next year.

If the Stars don't win a playoff round and Langenbrunner signs with someone else, we get a 3rd this year.

[CarpathianForest]

So we're going to just scrap everything and rebuild I guess. Are any of the centers in the upcoming draft playmakers? That's what we need is a decent playmaking center. Zajac isn't one and Arnott is losing his polish. We really need one for Kovy. Hopefully if we can't get one at the draft we can find one in UFA or trade. I think there's still some decent playmaking centers that can be had for a decent price.

The Malkin for Parise deal doesn't sound that as bad as it did a month ago.

Edited by CarpathianForest, 07 January 2011 - 12:24 PM.

[Devils1985]

I wasn't expecting much of a return, so I'm not upset with what Lou got back. Funny how for all the bitching that went on about Langs here, from everything from his on-ice performance to his attitude, suddenly fans are pissed that Lou didn't get much back. This wasn't so much about making a big deal as it was about shaking this thing up. This so needed to be done...

Agreed. This is a team that's less than the sum of its parts. It must be rebuilt. It's also pretty obvious that this is the case, which doesn't help the bargaining power.....

[devilsfan26]

So we're going to just scrap everything and rebuild I guess.

I think that is a jump to conclusions. To me this move was more about getting something for Langenbrunner before we lose him for nothing.

[Daniel]

Langenbrunner is already being used better then he was in NJ. He is being used in a checking role on the 3rd line with Burish and Ott. Why couldn't a coach in NJ use him properly?

Then you'd just be bumping up another guy who otherwise should be third-line checking winger.

[devilsfan26]

Then you'd just be bumping up another guy who otherwise should be third-line checking winger.

Well you could also call someone up from Albany who is expected to be a future 1st or 2nd liner. I don't know if any of those guys are ready for that role yet though.

[Triumph]

Agreed. This is a team that's less than the sum of its parts. It must be rebuilt. It's also pretty obvious that this is the case, which doesn't help the bargaining power.....

this doesn't matter. the buyers are more desperate than the sellers. the devils are going to miss the playoffs regardless of what they do.

[Daniel]

so you think that lou deliberately didn't want to get a 2nd round pick? is that what you are saying? i think langenbrunner is a worse player than wisniewski at this point in their careers, but even if you don't think that, you have to think they're at least close and that one has a no-trade.

Might just be that you're willing to take less to trade him to a non-rival, such as Philly who, reportedly anyway, was offering two 2nds. Although for this year's purposes it wouldn't matter if we traded him to the Rangers and got spanked in the remaining contests.

Well you could also call someone up from Albany who is expected to be a future 1st or 2nd liner. I don't know if any of those guys are ready for that role yet though.

Are you able to identify this mythical creature?

[NJDevs4978]

so you think that lou deliberately didn't want to get a 2nd round pick? is that what you are saying? i think langenbrunner is a worse player than wisniewski at this point in their careers, but even if you don't think that, you have to think they're at least close and that one has a no-trade.

No I'm saying Lou might not have had much of a choice but to take the lesser deal (but now it's obvious we are getting a 2nd anyway which makes the deal better, just a matter of whether it's this year or next year). Odds are Jamie was going to be selective on where he waived the no-trade to go since multiple teams were making offers.

[Triumph]

Might just be that you're willing to take less to trade him to a non-rival, such as Philly who, reportedly anyway, was offering two 2nds. Although for this year's purposes it wouldn't matter if we traded him to the Rangers and got spanked in the remaining contests.

i have not heard from any source that the flyers were offering 2 2nds. i have heard they were offering two picks. furthermore, philadelphia doesn't have a 2nd in the upcoming draft, they traded it to phoenix in the upshall-carcillo deal. the flyers also do not have a 2nd round pick in 2012, they traded that to tampa bay for andrej meszaros.

Edited by Triumph, 07 January 2011 - 12:32 PM.

[devilsfan26]

Might just be that you're willing to take less to trade him to a non-rival, such as Philly who, reportedly anyway, was offering two 2nds. Although for this year's purposes it wouldn't matter if we traded him to the Rangers and got spanked in the remaining contests.



Are you able to identify this mythical creature?

No that's why I said I don't know if any of them are ready. I was just pointing out that having another checking line player on a scoring line isn't the only way to have Langenbrunner off the top two lines.

[Jas0nMacIsaac]

Might just be that you're willing to take less to trade him to a non-rival, such as Philly who, reportedly anyway, was offering two 2nds. Although for this year's purposes it wouldn't matter if we traded him to the Rangers and got spanked in the remaining contests.



Are you able to identify this mythical creature?

Philly doesn't even have a 2nd this year so I doubt that was true. More likely it was a 3rd and a 5th.

[Devils731]

Grabbed this from Devils All The Way over on HF.com

http://hfboards.com/...5&postcount=245

Tremblay talking about Jamie...

He said that Jamie was a negative leader for the past two years. He said that Lemaire benched Langenbrunner in OT in a crucial game towards the end of last year and was selected by JL for the shootout and Jamie told him he wasn't going. Parise talked to Jamie on the bench and Jamie decided to go. There was several little "fights" between JL and our ex-captain and moving him out of that locker room will be a positive for the NJD.

I'm not sure where Tremblay is interviewing right now, but this guy and Jamie sure didn't get along. Tremblay is also the guy who said they wanted to take the C off Jamie last season but they decided Langs would be too mad about it and decided not to.

[Daniel]

Philly doesn't even have a 2nd this year so I doubt that was true. More likely it was a 3rd and a 5th.

Fine, but the details of other supposed offers isn't the issue. It's meant to illustrate a plausible scenario where a team would take less in a trade than what other teams were offering. See., e.g., Johan Santana trade.

Edited by Daniel, 07 January 2011 - 12:35 PM.

[CarpathianForest]

Wasn't there a kerfuffle because Jamie didn't come out and salute when he was one of the three stars against Atlanta?