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#1 HellOnICE

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 08:56 AM

actually recognizes human elements of the game. This was a nice move by the Stars last night, couldn't imagine the Devils do such a thing.

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 09:34 AM

That was very nice.
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 10:17 AM

Anyone have a video of the whole thing?
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 10:26 AM

Yeah I mean I wish the team did more stuff like that.. I feel like Lou doesn't approve of that stuff.. Talking to the Devils marketing/management team, they said they keep trying to "modernize" Lou but he's tough to change
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 10:38 AM

Regardless of what people want to think or say and in all appreciation for what Lou has done for and means to this team the Devils will only be able to move forward as an organization on, and off, the ice when he is finally gone....
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 10:40 AM

Yea it's time UNderdog.
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 10:45 AM

Perhaps its time for Vanderbeek to remind Lou who actually pays him.

Also, when did this type of moment occur during the season...have the Devils ever had a chance to do this?
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 10:53 AM

Perhaps its time for Vanderbeek to remind Lou who actually pays him.

Also, when did this type of moment occur during the season...have the Devils ever had a chance to do this?


Elias coming back from Hep, Marty coming back from injury, Arnott returning.....
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 11:30 AM

Lou is stuck in 1977. He should be in control of ON ICE decisions only. EVERYTHING else should be completely relinquished to the marketing department with no involvement from LL whatsoever.
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 11:39 AM

Honestly what difference would it make? People still cheered Marty to the high heavens when he came back, they cheered Arnott, hell they cheered Lemaire - and I think the Devils 'not recognizing' their players gets overrated in terms of Lou's treatment of them. Enough of them come back and stay after their careers are over that I think Lou treats the players good for the most part, without showing their face in the press box.

Regardless of what people want to think or say and in all appreciation for what Lou has done for and means to this team the Devils will only be able to move forward as an organization on, and off, the ice when he is finally gone....



Lou and the marketing department can be better with the fans for sure, but that's a tough thing to say about a team that's missed the playoffs twice in the last two decades. We're about another bad season (and Parise defection) away from Lou entering George Young territory but be careful what you wish for, just because we've had diminishing returns for a few seasons there's no reason to think Lou can't get out of it or that the next guy will be better.

Besides, Lou 'modernized' himself with the Kovy thing or allowed others to do it, how has that worked out so far? Even worse than Manta could have predicted.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 08 January 2011 - 11:47 AM.

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 11:48 AM

Honestly what difference would it make? People cheered Marty to the high heavens when he came back, they cheered Arnott, hell they cheered Lemaire - and I think the Devils 'not recognizing' their players gets overrated in terms of Lou's treatment of them. Enough of them come back and stay after their careers are over that I think Lou treats the players good for the most part, without showing their face in the press box.

Exactly. This is just an excuse to find something to whine about. There are more important things to address.
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 11:54 AM

Well -- to be frank I feel that Joe Niewendyke made a very public welcome home for his buddy and -- (insert long awkward pause)

I think it's sentimental bullsh!t that I, as a fan do not need to see or take part in.

These guys aren't my buddies. I woudl have been embarrassed to have a welcome back Arnott tribute. It's --- it's bullsh!t and shoudl be saved for Joe and Jamie alone. I think it's crap for people to try to take part in stuff like this -- but whatever - reality TV is HUGE so I'm obviously against the tide.
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 12:55 PM

Who cares?
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 12:58 PM

The Kovy fiasco was a combination of ownership wanting something and a GM who begrudged the notion and what we got was the worst of it, an albatross of a contract with random pieces without any resemblance to anything cohesive...there was no "modernizing" of Lou for that to get done...

And the point isn't to make the fans feel good or give us something to cheer its to make the players feel like they are more than just pieces to a puzzle, tireless work horses bought for the sole purpose of winning a Stanley Cup...good morale and feeling like you belong to something, that you aren't just another disposable piece (as Rafalski, Martin, Gomez, Gionta, and others I'm sure have felt) goes a long way...


Well -- to be frank I feel that Joe Niewendyke made a very public welcome home for his buddy and -- (insert long awkward pause)

I think it's sentimental bullsh!t that I, as a fan do not need to see or take part in.

These guys aren't my buddies. I woudl have been embarrassed to have a welcome back Arnott tribute. It's --- it's bullsh!t and shoudl be saved for Joe and Jamie alone. I think it's crap for people to try to take part in stuff like this -- but whatever - reality TV is HUGE so I'm obviously against the tide.


I'm sure you didn't mind the Stevens retirement ceremony though... :)

As overblown or pointlessly awkward it might have been, it was showing respect to a player who had previously been a part of the franchise and, like he was with us, a key component to winning the team a Stanley Cup...its a nice thing to do and I'm sure that Langs appreciated what is slowly becoming the anti-Devils sentiment...at some point the Devils had that magic, that family chemistry that any team would envy but it has slowly morphed into a high shool clique that the league despises...
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 01:15 PM

Meh. I've been to Stevens Night, two Daneyko Nights, Emrick Night, pre-game ceremonies for Rolston and Brodeur, and undoubtedly more that I can't think of off the top of my head ... the Devils do plenty to honor people at appropriate times.

I do think it's kinda funny that people hate when Lou goes the re-tread route, and then not only become jealous of a different team acquiring a re-tread but throwing a pre-game party for him.
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 01:33 PM

And the point isn't to make the fans feel good or give us something to cheer its to make the players feel like they are more than just pieces to a puzzle, tireless work horses bought for the sole purpose of winning a Stanley Cup...good morale and feeling like you belong to something, that you aren't just another disposable piece (as Rafalski, Martin, Gomez, Gionta, and others I'm sure have felt) goes a long way...


That's exactly what it sounds like it is about - because it's the fans complaining about this, not ex-players. Evidence suggests Lou does plenty for key players to make them feel appreciated, it's just not stuff that's done for public consumption except at appropriate times.

If anything I'd argue in the past few years Lou's gone too overboard letting the inmates run the asylum (firing coaches left and right while not doing much to shake up the locker room) and that needs to be changed.

at some point the Devils had that magic, that family chemistry that any team would envy but it has slowly morphed into a high shool clique that the league despises...


The league despises us because of the Kovy contract and plus they feel Lou was getting the benefit of the doubt for years before the league put both its feet down on our throat this offseason. Not to mention the highest payroll in the league having the worst record is always an object for ridicule.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 08 January 2011 - 01:37 PM.

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 02:48 PM

Was there some sort of mini-ceremony for Langenbruuner last night in Dallas, or was it just that they shined a spotlight on him for a few seconds and he waved as the crowd cheered?
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 04:23 PM

dude, if we do Scott Niedermayer retirement night this year, half the crowd is going to boo him out of the building. two different groups of people.
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 05:49 PM

I'm sure you didn't mind the Stevens retirement ceremony though... :)

As overblown or pointlessly awkward it might have been, it was showing respect to a player who had previously been a part of the franchise and, like he was with us, a key component to winning the team a Stanley Cup...its a nice thing to do and I'm sure that Langs appreciated what is slowly becoming the anti-Devils sentiment...at some point the Devils had that magic, that family chemistry that any team would envy but it has slowly morphed into a high shool clique that the league despises...


Stevens night was sort of goofy. The number retirement night - that was cool :evil:

The Jamie thing was sh!t -- at best it was Joe saying thanks for having you back at worst it was Joe having his revenge for never getting a call from Lou over the Summer. We know how to appreciate OUR players Jamie. Really? So are you going to do that for every former player to come back? Somehow I really dont think so. No this was all The GMs buddy had a hard time of it and he;s always welcome to his hockey home here in Dallas.

Return of the Prodigal Son because he's so synonymous with the Stars :blink:

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 05:57 PM

Devils never had "family chemistry." Closest wad 2002 - yeah, family chemistry as in a bunch of childish brothers turning on Larry and in-fighting ad nausium.

Lou waived his value driven hockey in the leagues face and said this is how you do it men. They were an arrogant team - but the arrogance was backed by talent confidence and plain ability.
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