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[iamtheprodigy]

Time to tank the season. I felt this way a month ago and strongly feel it now. Bring up the youngsters, give them full icetime. Sell off what you can. The draft has a great scorer and a great dman at the top. We should ensure that this franchise gets 1 of them and starts to restock the farm system with more depth.

Go away.

[Triumph]

Time to tank the season. I felt this way a month ago and strongly feel it now. Bring up the youngsters, give them full icetime. Sell off what you can. The draft has a great scorer and a great dman at the top. We should ensure that this franchise gets 1 of them and starts to restock the farm system with more depth.

we are talking about the 2011 draft right

[Devils1985]

Of course...this is the Devils, where everything's just a bruise until it's not a bruise.

LOL, so so true...

[Devils1985]

They definitely need to address the goalie position in the offseason 'cause it's preciously thin down on the farm.

[Quinn01]

They definitely need to address the goalie position in the offseason 'cause it's preciously thin down on the farm.

Absolutely.

[Devils1985]

I hope they don't think Jeff Lerg is still a prospect. He's a flopper and goes down at the hint of a shot and he's 5'4". They say he's 5'6" but....when your goalie can hang off the crossbar and swing his legs...he's too short. Albany folks would have to chime in on Frazee cause we didn't see him much in Trenton.

[thefiestygoat]

Time to tank the season. I felt this way a month ago and strongly feel it now. Bring up the youngsters, give them full icetime. Sell off what you can. The draft has a great scorer and a great dman at the top. We should ensure that this franchise gets 1 of them and starts to restock the farm system with more depth.

From everything I've been able to read online from draft guys and some of the more knowledgeable prospect posters on this forum, this is no sure-fire great scorer or great defenseman. There are a lot of quality guys but no generational talent. I just want the team to play hard and what happens, happens. It's been said that it is possible for a team picking 6, 7, 8, etc. to end up with the best player.

[thefiestygoat]

I wonder if this season full of injuries and lengthy, painful recoveries gets Marty to seriously ponder retirement this offseason.

I wouldn't blame him if he did. I always thought he would finish out his contract, but the toll this year has taken on his body may change his mind.

[NJDevs4978]

Eh Marty's had a lot of nagging injuries, you have to expect that at 38. He's not leaving $5.2 million on the table (and giving up one more chance to play with Kovy, Parise, Elias, Zajac, etc) unless he suffers a severe injury though. Plus I think it means a lot to him to finish out the contract just out of a sense of duty.

Clearly though the Devils need to address the goalie position one way or the other this offseason cause the days of Marty playing 70+ are almost certainly over.

[ZeroGravityFat]

Marty doesn't like to sit, let alone ponder a year early retirement. He will play until Lou tells him there is a replacement for him, and he will probably train the kid for a year as a backup before he leaves and becomes the goalie coach then the GM.

[newarkdev01]

Am I wrong in thinking the Devils have been talking about Frazee as the goalie of the future? I figure Marty at least for next year and then maybe another extension for 1-3 years (I figure Roy and Hasek were able to do it). I have to admit I always felt sort of scared that Marty wouldn't be willing to admit when he was past his best days as that's hard on any athlete. The converse of this is that Lemaire seems excellent at having the devils protect his goalies and I have noticed a huge increase in blocked shots and the defense staying at home.

[ZeroGravityFat]

marty seems pretty damn good out there, he can compete with the best of them so i don't see any reason to retire him. the best option is an understudy he shares games with and is on contract as 40 game minimum for the kid.

[ZeroGravityFat]

Sounds like I was right, sprained MCL, out a few games for rehab and strengthening.

[overtime98]

I wonder if we should claim Ray Emery? Just as Depth......

[msweet]

The MRI taken Monday revealed that goaltender Martin Brodeur has a “non-operable knee sprain” Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello said Brodeur is out “day-to-day” while he rehabs his right knee.

Lamoriello said there is “no timetable” for Brodeur’s return to the lineup and would not answer when I asked if it was possible Brodeur will play this week, but it appears likely he will miss at least three games.

Brodeur will definitely sit out tonight’s game against Carolina. The Devils then visit Toronto on Thursday before hosting San Jose on Friday. After that, they have four days off before hosting the Hurricanes again next Wednesday.

“It’s a day-to-day rehab situation,” Lamoriello said. “When it his rehab gets to the point where his knee is better, it will be up to Marty and the doctor to decide (when he’ll play).”




http://blogs.northje...jury_to_right_/

[mmajeski06]

Damn...just when the Marty of Old had just started showing up.

[devilsadvoc8]

Ha ha - thanks for the great responses: go away, etc. I appreciate the willingness to engage in meaningful discourse.

Its not about Marty maybe missing 2-3 games its about the long term future of the franchise. This team is hamstrung by some bad contracts, aging talent and an abyssmal start to this season. Not one of you can argue against those three points. One could also argue that the farm system is not the strongest regarding the level of organizational talent when compared to other teams. The Devils have been one of the most successful franchises over the last 17-18 years- a model of consistency and achievement. I applaud that and have enjoyed every minute of it.

Take a step back from your anger or whatever emotion you have that dismisses the concept altogether and consider the following: As a result of the 3 maybe 4 points I made above regarding the Devil's current problems, the team is very close to the bottom of the league. Whether or not the draft contains a Crosby like talent, better picks increases your chance at better talent not only at the top end of the draft but throughout the remainder of the rounds. This team is not a contender for the cup. There, I said it. Sure the team can fight and scratch to make the 8 seed and bow out quickly or it can go the other way. The other way hopefully gets what young talent they do have a taste of the action at this level with meaningful ice time and improves their draft position dramatically. I personally would rather the team took a longer term approach instead of another first round exit.

Other than Detroit (whose success over the same period as the Devils simply amazes me) most other teams have gone through peaks and valleys. When in the valleys, they picked up great talent in the draft (e.g. Pens, Blackhawks, etc). It happens in all other sports as well as long as you forget the Yankees and Red Sox as they simply buy themselves talent to win.

While you may disagree with me, I'm fine with that. I understand the opposite point of view and it has merit. On the other hand, I've been a Devils fan since they got here, when they absolutely sucked. Those years were hard but as a result they got talent which provided the foundation for the cups the Devils won (I'm not forgetting the theft of #4 as well). It's from being a fan of the franchise since the beginning that allows me to understand the benefit of a short residency in the basement to provide this franchise with the talent it needs to make another 15 year run of excellence which is really hard to do drafting in the middle to late rounds for such a long period of time. Nothing is guaranteed with a top pick but I'll take my chances.

Flame away!

[Devil Dan 56]

Am I wrong in thinking the Devils have been talking about Frazee as the goalie of the future? I figure Marty at least for next year and then maybe another extension for 1-3 years (I figure Roy and Hasek were able to do it). I have to admit I always felt sort of scared that Marty wouldn't be willing to admit when he was past his best days as that's hard on any athlete. The converse of this is that Lemaire seems excellent at having the devils protect his goalies and I have noticed a huge increase in blocked shots and the defense staying at home.

I'd love Frazee to get a few starts in Jersey when he's healthy, just so the Devils can get a look at what he can do in the NHL. That being said, I think Wedgewood may be the future.

[mmajeski06]

I'd love Frazee to get a few starts in Jersey when he's healthy, just so the Devils can get a look at what he can do in the NHL. That being said, I think Wedgewood may be the future.

Looking forward to getting a look at both Frazee and Wedgewood. Though Wedgewood is more than likely a long way off.

[Devil Dan 56]

Looking forward to getting a look at both Frazee and Wedgewood. Though Wedgewood is more than likely a long way off.

Yeah.. there's definitely going to have to be something between Marty and Wedgewood (assuming he works out). I'm guessing Lou goes the free agent route. Pikke Rinne is UFA after next season, haha