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#141 insanity_gallops

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 06:37 AM

lmfao i have to say maddog best gif iv seen out there for the lottery and draft.

Yep. It's the "Bettman stare" picture that really makes it for me.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 08:48 AM

Yep. It's the "Bettman stare" picture that really makes it for me.


Thank you gents.

NHL.com has the actual footage of the numbers being drawn. I would love to had been there after the camera was turned off. :evil:

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=0&id=108174
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 09:21 AM

Yep. It's the "Bettman stare" picture that really makes it for me.

It's Devils Mgmt laughing splice that gets me... JVB is so unctuous :rofl:
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Posted 16 April 2011 - 08:55 AM

Thank you gents.

NHL.com has the actual footage of the numbers being drawn. I would love to had been there after the camera was turned off. :evil:

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=0&id=108174


I don't get the 4 numbers thing... can someone explain it to me ?

I understand each numbers' associated with a team, but why 4 numbers ?

Edited by Devilzibook, 16 April 2011 - 08:57 AM.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 10:37 AM

When you buy a lottery ticket, generally the way it works is you pick a set amount of numbers, and you win if all of your numbers are picked (regardless of order).

The the NHL draft lottery works the same way. 4 numbers are chosen out of the choices 1 through 14. They figure out all of the possible combinations of numbers (which equals 1001), and randomly assign combinations to each team. Some teams get assigned more number combinations based on their end of the season standings. The devils were assigned 36 out of 1001 number combinations if I am not mistaken.

The math for the total combination number works like this:

14x13x12x11=24,024
4x3x2x1=24
24,024/24=1001
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Posted 16 April 2011 - 10:58 AM

When you buy a lottery ticket, generally the way it works is you pick a set amount of numbers, and you win if all of your numbers are picked (regardless of order).

The the NHL draft lottery works the same way. 4 numbers are chosen out of the choices 1 through 14. They figure out all of the possible combinations of numbers (which equals 1001), and randomly assign combinations to each team. Some teams get assigned more number combinations based on their end of the season standings. The devils were assigned 36 out of 1001 number combinations if I am not mistaken.

The math for the total combination number works like this:

14x13x12x11=24,024
4x3x2x1=24
24,024/24=1001


Nooow I understand :rolleyes: !! Thanks man
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Posted 17 April 2011 - 01:55 PM

RNH if he is avail.....

Otherwise, I would go Larsson, Hamilton or Beaulieu (in that order).
We have forward talent for years to come, and depth D but no #1.

I don't think we go BPA, I think we need to draft what we need (and 4th overall is way to high for our future goalie).
Though RNH and Larsson would fit BPA if still available at 4th.
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Posted 17 April 2011 - 02:43 PM

RNH if he is avail.....

Otherwise, I would go Larsson, Hamilton or Beaulieu (in that order).
We have forward talent for years to come, and depth D but no #1.


Uh, no we don't. All of our legit forward prospects are either in the NHL or in the AHL. Not that this is a bad thing, but we have almost nothing coming up the pipeline beyond the current crop that are in the pros.

Our defensive prospects are also much better than just "depth D". Merrill could very well be a top-pairing defenseman down the line. Urbom, Gelinas, Burlon, etc. are all projected as potential mid-pairing guys as well. Hamilton and Beaulieu might be fine defensemen but it's not worth passing up on a potential elite forward for them. Larsson is the only defenseman we should take.
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Posted 17 April 2011 - 02:48 PM

Kovy's here for the next million years, hopefully Zach, Zajac and the "kids" Palmeiri / Josefson / Tedenby are all here for the long haul.
That is forward talent for quite some time.... aka years to come.

As for "D", your Mid Pairing comment is exactly why I suggest we use the pick to get a potential Doughty (unless RNH is available).
For whatever reason, I am big fan of Hamilton....
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Posted 17 April 2011 - 03:57 PM

Kovy's here for the next million years, hopefully Zach, Zajac and the "kids" Palmeiri / Josefson / Tedenby are all here for the long haul.
That is forward talent for quite some time.... aka years to come.


Like I said, these players are all in the pros, and will have an impact on the immediate future. But we have no real top-6 forward prospects in college or juniors right now. That is not good.
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Posted 17 April 2011 - 04:12 PM

Kovy's here for the next million years, hopefully Zach, Zajac and the "kids" Palmeiri / Josefson / Tedenby are all here for the long haul.
That is forward talent for quite some time.... aka years to come.

As for "D", your Mid Pairing comment is exactly why I suggest we use the pick to get a potential Doughty (unless RNH is available).
For whatever reason, I am big fan of Hamilton....


We also have good defensive prospects right now in Jon Merrill and Brandon Burlon (both at Michigan), as well as Urbom and Eric Gelinas, the latter two are closer to the NHL than anyone we may draft defensively. Offensively, most of our top prospects are already in the NHL or just outside, i.e. Henrique. We are severely lacking anything offensively in terms of depth on the farm.

RNH is not going to be available. Out of all the rumored top 5 picks, he is the one name I dont think we have a shot at. Everyone else a case could be made for them to fall i.e. Larsson and Landeskog.

With Urbom and Gelinas relatively close, our lack of offensive depth should be the priority this draft, if and only if, Adam Larsson is there. He's pretty much a consensus "sure thing", or as close to one as you can get in scouting defense which takes longer to develop.

We also have to consider that Patrik Elias is getting older. Brian Rolston is gone after next year, Clarkson provides very little, and despite the first year successes of Palmieri, Josefson, and Tedenby, they may not maintain that success going forward. We can get an impact player on the offensive side of the puck right now with our top 5 pick.
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 01:12 AM

one thing is that we're looking at a future with lots of skills but very little grit up front... thats something you really need in the playoffs
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 08:23 AM

the rugged player up front is usually cheap and not too hard to find around trade deadline. we can grab one from waivers.
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 11:29 AM

the rugged player up front is usually cheap and not too hard to find around trade deadline. we can grab one from waivers.


We've got a legitimate chance to grab a future #1 center in the draft. Waivers? When was the last time we picked up someone from waivers that was worth a damn?
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 11:51 AM

Rolston really turned his game around after we picked him up off waivers this year.
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 12:42 PM

Rolston really turned his game around after we picked him up off waivers this year.


...and started playing him with Elias full-time.
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 02:15 PM

Rolston really turned his game around after we picked him up off waivers this year.


Being stuck with a guy and picking up someone is a bit different, no?
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 02:48 PM

ghdi is right about our prospect depth. If we were drafting for prospect needs, we would take a forward. That said, I think we'll be taking BPA at #4, because that's the right thing to do. For fun though, let's examine why forward prospects would be our current need.

We had some forward prospect depth recently, but now most of those promising players have graduated or about to. Our farm for promising forwards is pretty much down to Adam Henrique (with some unknowns being Mike Sislo, David Wohlberg, and Mike Hoeffel). The rest of our forwards are pretty much long-shots to reach their original potential at this point.

This lack of forward depth has come about quicker than expected due to the Devils playing most of the season with 4 rookie forwards in the lineup (and by trading away Halischuk, Bergfors, and Cormier in the last year). Now you could say that we're fine for a while because these recently graduated guys are young and will play for a long time, but ideally you always want to have balance in your system.

On defense, our promising prospect list has:
Merril
Urbom
Burlon
Gelinas
Sova (still mostly unknown)

Graduated, or close to it
Fayne
Taormina

That's a great list that has me pretty excited, but it's much longer than our list for promising forwards. Considering you need twice as many forwards in your lineup as you need dmen, I would say that our system is currently out of balance.

At #4, it's still got to be BPA all the way though. I think we'll see us trend with more forwards in the later rounds of the next few drafts though.

Edited by elias2600, 18 April 2011 - 02:49 PM.

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 04:47 PM

I miss all the posters who regularly picked up on -- and ignored -- my subtle flights of sarcasm.
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 05:02 PM

I miss all the posters who regularly picked up on -- and ignored -- my subtle flights of sarcasm.

Hey, I'm still along for the ride. Sarcasm's just a lost art on this board nowadays.
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