Marty also played during the dead puck era. No shots on goal due to clutching and grabbing which helped his numbers.
This isn't true.
Shots on goal per game were slightly lower during that time but not much (see here: http://www.quanthock...hotsPerGame.php). Most of the reason why the 'dead puck' era happened is that goalies got way better.
I do not think there is any question if he were still on the team, his 60 points wins us at least another 5 games, and we are in the playoffs.
I hate when people don't live up to the deals they makes thanks for nothing, Ilya, go Kovalfvck yourself.
There is no way that Kovalchuk was worth 5 wins a year. He wasn't very good in Russia this year and he ended the year hurt again. Plus his salary was $11M, so if you think NJ was budget conscious this year, take 3 players the Devils signed in the offseason and throw them off the team. It can be any 3, but you have to take 3 off.
He's not wrong at all. If Martin Brodeur can't say it then who? People can be down on him which is fine but this team is horrible. I think his shot here is at Lou not anyone else. Marty's playing career is done but he still knows the game. Management needs to wake up! Lou should have traded Marty at the deadline for a bag of pucks. We haven't seen anything, yet...
Jagr can. Schneider can. Because these players are NJ's best players and without them they'd finish bottom 5 in the league. Brodeur can't because he sucks now. I'll just say it in words that the fanbase definitely understands: he sucks. He's no longer better than anyone. When players play well they can criticize their teammates. When they do not play well they should close their mouths, because the rest of the team is trying, they're just not that good. 1999-2000 Jason Arnott isn't walking through that door. Scott Niedermayer isn't walking through that door. Scott Stevens is walking through that door but only to tell Gelinas to hit more or something. It isn't a good team, but Brodeur isn't helping. In fact, he's hurting - he hurts the team every time he steps on the ice to play.
Meh, they took away Ryder's center and he's playing hurt. I get disgusted when I see him carrying the puck too but like dr33 said, he needs the right players around him to make it work. He's not going to make offense for himself, he's just not that kind of player. He needs people that can cut through defense and get him the puck, not Dainius Zubrus.
I still am of the opinion that if Gelinas defensive play continues to be a major problem, looking into switching him to wing would not be a bad option. You're not going to see too much in the way of big slap shots during normal even strength play anyhow so losing that on your even strength blue line isn't a major headache. Wingers still get those opportunities off offensive zone faceoffs. It was responsible for a decent number of Sykora and Rolston goals in their careers.
My major motivation for starting my version of this thread was that I wanted Gelinas to stay in the lineup for games so he could play powerplay time because I think that his presence there is vital to this team's success. It would also help given that we're relatively weak up front and if done right he does have natural talents that could lend themselves to being an effective power forward.
I think part of the problem is the immediate assumption that once a player chooses a position that they become a "natural whatever." Obviously if that were true, Gelinas would still be a forward since that's what he started as. The skills involved in playing a non-goalie hockey position be they defense or forward are absolutely translatable. "Quickness" is a skill that can be improved with agility training and let's be honest, most power forwards struggle with quickness. The guy has speed, size and offensive talent. Those things are useful no matter where you are in the offensive zone. His lack of certain defensive instincts may be minimized by him playing forward.
Now on the flip side, if he does improve his defensive play to the point where a coach doesn't need to hesitate to put him out there against a second liner, I have no objection to him going full speed ahead as a defenseman because having a good weapon like that on the blue line during even strength is an enormous asset if it isn't a liability.
DeBoer's system and any heavy forecheck/puck control system requires people who can shoot the puck at the point. Gelinas has more shots/60 than anyone on this year's team. It's not just about the big slapshot - Gelinas has a very good release and he has a good wrist shot too.
Gelinas's biggest potential skill at 5 on 5 is not his shot, it's his ability to knife through the neutral zone and either lead the rush/get the puck into the zone or be available for drop passes on the rush. I'm not convinced that his decision making in this regard will ever be elite but this is an ability that players like Kurtis Foster do not possess. It's a skill that frankly NJ hasn't really had since Scott Niedermayer. It's a skill that most defensemen don't have and one that's pretty useless as a forward.
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Callahan would be a NIGHTMARE[quote]
No he wouldnt. Top player that would fit our system and like I said, would automatically become our best player the second he walks in the door. And that "hes only got a few years left" is bullsh!t. No validity behind it whatsoever. That what the sour grapes people tried saying about parise and theres ZERO evidence that holding true.
GO. GET. CALLY.
If Callahan is your best player, you are not going to win many games. He is not a top player, and he never really was, and now he's on the decline. In addition, since GMs love thinking players like Callahan are top players, he will be massively overpaid.
Parise's decline will begin - he still hasn't matched his numbers from 08-09 and 09-10. He's holding up better than I thought he would so far, but he's only played 100 games so far. Talk to me when he's played 300.
Buying out the final year only saves the Devils money because it's a 35+ contract. I could see them convincing him to walk.
It's not mileage, it's just that Zubrus was never a great player and players who aren't great tend to slow down at Zubrus's age. Like Edge said, he just doesn't get in on the forecheck as fast and so that really limits what good he's doing out there. He's still a smart player with the puck and on defense but he's basically contributing at a 3rd/4th line level at this juncture. I'm not concerned about the salary, but I am concerned that coaching/management usually takes at least a year what shrewd people can see in 20 games - this is why old players suck, it isn't just because they start to get worse, it's that the coaching staff doesn't notice until it's already cost the team points.
pete looks for excuses to play marty. different strokes for different folks. i'm furious that marty is starting. his rust should be of no concern.
like a disobedient child, this toy must be taken away from the coach. this is punting the season plain and simple.
Probably thinks about how much his puck handling helps the breakout. His puck stopping also helps the breakout - with a few Brodeur softies, the other team stops forechecking and the puck just flies out of NJ's defensive zone.
How many times to random shootout derbys break out during the course of a season? Where free shots are given for no reason whatsoever. Where the sport of NHL hockey is completely suspended and a different sport is played.
of course 3 on 3 was voted down. The fans wanted it and are clearly getting fed up with the shootout. Why would the give the fans what they want?
Haha, projecting as usual. A penalty shot happens way, way more often than 3 on 3 hockey if we exclude the already gimmicky 4 on 4 OT.
What makes the scoring/forward problem worse is other than Jagr (who's essential to bring back), Ryder and Brunner we have a TON of highly-paid forwards signed for another two plus years. They've pretty much locked themselves in long-term to most of this group. The only lineup forwards that are FA's this year are Jagr and CBGB. Next year it's Ryder and Brunner.
They haven't really locked themselves in, but that depends on their willingness to employ Dainius Zubrus as a 4th line player, because that's quickly what he's becoming. If they're willing to move Boucher to RW (which I would hope they are, given that they do have a bunch of crap LWs signed), they could move one of Ryder or Brunner and get better that way. Basically Ryder, Brunner, Zubrus, or Ruutu all would move, some with a little kick via retained salary, but I think someone would be interested. The trouble with Zubrus is that he has an NTC.