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#1264071 This off seasons UFA's and realistic possible trades

Posted by Triumph on 12 May 2014 - 09:35 AM

In the 3 full seasons that Kovalchuk was here, the Devils finished 30th, 11th, and 28th in goal scoring. 


I don't want Spezza.  The Devils don't have the kind of package to get him.

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#1263758 Landing Spots for Brodeur

Posted by Triumph on 08 May 2014 - 11:42 AM

I think we all know Brodeur doesn't want to be a backup. He's not wired for it, and frankly someone with that good a career shouldn't have to be 42 and a back up in the league. I find it almost impossible that he could come back to 15-20 games with it clearly defined that he will not be the starter at all.


Brodeur is hoping for a 2008 Red Wings Hasek situation. where you have a very solid team that doesn't have a clear answer in nets. Hasek was 43 and he was pretty much done, but there was always hope for him and concern with Wings management with Osgood in nets. Basically, he's hoping to be given a shot to win the net.


That simply can not happen in New Jersey. Marty knows it too. He said as much in a bunch of quotes. Ego and competition and wanting to play took over (pretty much why he wanted to be traded), but since he cares so much about this franchise, he knows that what he wants and what the franchise needs don't align at all. They didn't align last year, and it will be catastrophic this year.


For Brodeur, it has to be an opportunity with another team, or his career is over. 


I just don't see where that will be.


Teams with DEFINITE starting goalies right now:  NYR (Lundqvist), NJ (Schneider), Pittsburgh (Fleury), Columbus (Bobrovsky), Boston (Rask), Montreal (Price), Tampa (Bishop), Detroit (Howard), Florida (Luongo), Toronto (Bernier), Chicago (Crawford), Nashville (Rinne), Dallas (Lethonen), Colorado (Varlamov), Phoenix (Smith), San Jose (Niemi), LA (Quick)


So now we've winnowed things down considerably already - that's 17 teams off the list of teams that have a definite #1 guy right now.


Teams that think they have a starter:  Winnipeg (Pavelec), Philadelphia (Mason), Calgary, maybe? (Rammo)


Cross 3 more off, probably - I would include Philadelphia as a place Brodeur might go, but I don't think he'll want to play there.  Now we're at 9 teams left.


Teams with two guys:  Ottawa (Anderson, Lehner), Edmonton (Scrivens, Fasth), Minnesota (Kuemper, Harding, Backstrom), Carolina (Ward, Khudobin), Anaheim (Andersen, Gibson)


Now we're at 5 teams:  Buffalo, the Islanders, Washington, St. Louis, Vancouver.  Buffalo has Neuvirth and Enroth, two young goalies, the Islanders already indicated their interest in Jaro Halak, the Blues have a UFA goalie they paid a lot for, and Vancouver has a young guy they like.


UFA Starting goalies (current team):  Hiller (Anaheim), Halak (NYI), Miller (St. Louis), Nabokov (NYI)


I don't think Nabokov is a starter in the NHL anymore, so throw him off the list.  Still, these 3 guys are going to end up somewhere, so that's 3 more teams off the list.  That leaves 2 teams left for Brodeur to be an ostensible starter on, and that's if he can usurp a guy that's already there (exception to this:  The Islanders).  And he said he wanted to go somewhere he can win and somewhere that's warm.  I could maybe see Anaheim signing him as a veteran guy if they've gone insane, but I think someone like Nabokov or Bryzgalov would be a better fit there - they could have one of the young guys in the NHL playing while the other young guy plays in the AHL, and if one is doing considerably better than the other, they could switch.  I could see Phoenix maybe using him as a backup because why not, but again he'd be a backup.  Unless the goalie UFA market shakes out real weird, like someone ends up going to the KHL or someone ends up hurt for the year in the off-season, I just don't see him landing anywhere where he even has a chance to be a 1A.  

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#1263633 Hextall to become new Flyers' GM

Posted by Triumph on 07 May 2014 - 12:36 PM

Those trades are good by accident - the Flyers dismantled a team that went to the Stanley Cup Finals the year before, one with an elite defenseman who was getting old and only had a short window to be great.  You also have to factor in the giant goalie signing which was a calamity, the 35+ contract given to Pronger that Holmgren did not think was 35+ (even though the CBA is incredibly clear on this point).  So yeah, Mike Richards is aging faster than you might expect and that contract isn't looking too hot these days.


Both the Carter and Richards trades are wins from an asset perspective and have kept the Flyers an okay team despite getting poor to mediocre goaltending.  And yes, the Flyers draft very well too, although it's strange how they draft excellent forwards and cannot draft D at all, but the team is a mess of bad contracts and overall average talent, and there isn't a ton in the pipeline to help out.  Gostisbehere might be something, Laughton looks to be another solid player, but they don't have much else there.  I also tend not to credit general managers with draft pick successes - they have too much on their plates to be scouting.


And let's not forget James Van Riemsdyk for Luke Schenn, probably the worst major trade of the last 3 years.  And giving away Bobrovsky for picks.  

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#1262327 The 2014 NJ Devils Offseason Thread

Posted by Triumph on 24 April 2014 - 09:10 PM

I know the Devils offense was terrible.  The thing about offense is that it's largely random in short bursts.  Would the Devils have been a favorite in the 1st round?  No, of course not.  But they could have competed, and if they had gotten some breaks, they could've won a round, and had they gotten lots of breaks they could have won several rounds.

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#1262246 NHL bends the Devils over with back-to-backs

Posted by Triumph on 24 April 2014 - 12:07 PM

I think the Rangers travelled less miles and had 10 less b2b


Because they don't need home Saturday dates to sell out.  Teams get to request stuff and the league can try to accommodate it.  

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#1262232 NHL bends the Devils over with back-to-backs

Posted by Triumph on 24 April 2014 - 10:37 AM

The Devils want back to backs because they want as many home Saturday dates as possible.  With two #1 goalies like the Devils had, it shouldn't've been a problem.

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#1261423 Brodeur Appreciation Thread

Posted by Triumph on 16 April 2014 - 12:18 PM

Marty also played during the dead puck era. No shots on goal due to clutching and grabbing which helped his numbers.


This isn't true.


Shots on goal per game were slightly lower during that time but not much  (see here:  http://www.quanthock...hotsPerGame.php).  Most of the reason why the 'dead puck' era happened is that goalies got way better.

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#1260756 DeBoer On The Cusp Of

Posted by Triumph on 13 April 2014 - 11:38 AM

This poster is not new, haha.  


But yeah, glad to hear it.  DeBoer needs a chance here with good goaltending.

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#1260083 We got Kovalfvked

Posted by Triumph on 10 April 2014 - 09:59 PM

I do not think there is any question if he were still on the team, his 60 points wins us at least another 5 games, and we are in the playoffs.

I hate when people don't live up to the deals they makes thanks for nothing, Ilya, go Kovalfvck yourself.


There is no way that Kovalchuk was worth 5 wins a year.  He wasn't very good in Russia this year and he ended the year hurt again.  Plus his salary was $11M, so if you think NJ was budget conscious this year, take 3 players the Devils signed in the offseason and throw them off the team.  It can be any 3, but you have to take 3 off.

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#1259746 Brodeur: Devils have accepted mediocrity

Posted by Triumph on 09 April 2014 - 06:22 PM

He's not wrong at all.  If Martin Brodeur can't say it then who?  People can be down on him which is fine but this team is horrible.  I think his shot here is at Lou not anyone else.  Marty's playing career is done but he still knows the game. Management needs to wake up!  Lou should have traded Marty at the deadline for a bag of pucks.  We haven't seen anything, yet...


Jagr can.  Schneider can.  Because these players are NJ's best players and without them they'd finish bottom 5 in the league.  Brodeur can't because he sucks now.  I'll just say it in words that the fanbase definitely understands:  he sucks.  He's no longer better than anyone.  When players play well they can criticize their teammates.  When they do not play well they should close their mouths, because the rest of the team is trying, they're just not that good.  1999-2000 Jason Arnott isn't walking through that door.  Scott Niedermayer isn't walking through that door.  Scott Stevens is walking through that door but only to tell Gelinas to hit more or something.  It isn't a good team, but Brodeur isn't helping.  In fact, he's hurting - he hurts the team every time he steps on the ice to play.

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#1259723 Brodeur: Devils have accepted mediocrity

Posted by Triumph on 09 April 2014 - 04:39 PM

If players could just magically become better, Brodeur would be a .920 goalie and maybe NJ would be pretty good this year.  Just be quiet and leave gracefully.

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#1259427 GDT-Flames @ Devils-7PM

Posted by Triumph on 08 April 2014 - 11:24 AM

Meh, they took away Ryder's center and he's playing hurt.  I get disgusted when I see him carrying the puck too but like dr33 said, he needs the right players around him to make it work.  He's not going to make offense for himself, he's just not that kind of player.  He needs people that can cut through defense and get him the puck, not Dainius Zubrus.

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#1259360 GDT-Flames @ Devils-7PM

Posted by Triumph on 07 April 2014 - 10:40 PM

That list of backups would be more depressing if NJ didn't start a guy who is worse than most of those guys 35 times this year.

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#1258354 Gelinas as a forward

Posted by Triumph on 03 April 2014 - 03:31 PM

I still am of the opinion that if Gelinas defensive play continues to be a major problem, looking into switching him to wing would not be a bad option. You're not going to see too much in the way of big slap shots during normal even strength play anyhow so losing that on your even strength blue line isn't a major headache. Wingers still get those opportunities off offensive zone faceoffs. It was responsible for a decent number of Sykora and Rolston goals in their careers.


My major motivation for starting my version of this thread was that I wanted Gelinas to stay in the lineup for games so he could play powerplay time because I think that his presence there is vital to this team's success. It would also help given that we're relatively weak up front and if done right he does have natural talents that could lend themselves to being an effective power forward.


I think part of the problem is the immediate assumption that once a player chooses a position that they become a "natural whatever." Obviously if that were true, Gelinas would still be a forward since that's what he started as. The skills involved in playing a non-goalie hockey position be they defense or forward are absolutely translatable. "Quickness" is a skill that can be improved with agility training and let's be honest, most power forwards struggle with quickness. The guy has speed, size and offensive talent. Those things are useful no matter where you are in the offensive zone. His lack of certain defensive instincts may be minimized by him playing forward.


Now on the flip side, if he does improve his defensive play to the point where a coach doesn't need to hesitate to put him out there against a second liner, I have no objection to him going full speed ahead as a defenseman because having a good weapon like that on the blue line during even strength is an enormous asset if it isn't a liability.


DeBoer's system and any heavy forecheck/puck control system requires people who can shoot the puck at the point.  Gelinas has more shots/60 than anyone on this year's team.  It's not just about the big slapshot - Gelinas has a very good release and he has a good wrist shot too.


Gelinas's biggest potential skill at 5 on 5 is not his shot, it's his ability to knife through the neutral zone and either lead the rush/get the puck into the zone or be available for drop passes on the rush.  I'm not convinced that his decision making in this regard will ever be elite but this is an ability that players like Kurtis Foster do not possess.  It's a skill that frankly NJ hasn't really had since Scott Niedermayer.  It's a skill that most defensemen don't have and one that's pretty useless as a forward.

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#1257457 The player i want the most this summer.

Posted by Triumph on 31 March 2014 - 03:47 PM

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Callahan would be a NIGHTMARE[quote]

No he wouldnt. Top player that would fit our system and like I said, would automatically become our best player the second he walks in the door. And that "hes only got a few years left" is bullsh!t. No validity behind it whatsoever. That what the sour grapes people tried saying about parise and theres ZERO evidence that holding true.



If Callahan is your best player, you are not going to win many games.  He is not a top player, and he never really was, and now he's on the decline.  In addition, since GMs love thinking players like Callahan are top players, he will be massively overpaid.  


Parise's decline will begin - he still hasn't matched his numbers from 08-09 and 09-10.  He's holding up better than I thought he would so far, but he's only played 100 games so far.  Talk to me when he's played 300.

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