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#1256061 2013-2014 Lineup/Roster Thread

Posted by Triumph on 26 March 2014 - 01:26 PM

pete looks for excuses to play marty. different strokes for different folks. i'm furious that marty is starting. his rust should be of no concern.


like a disobedient child, this toy must be taken away from the coach. this is punting the season plain and simple.


Probably thinks about how much his puck handling helps the breakout.  His puck stopping also helps the breakout - with a few Brodeur softies, the other team stops forechecking and the puck just flies out of NJ's defensive zone.

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#1255359 GDT: Toronto @ Devils 7:00 PM

Posted by Triumph on 23 March 2014 - 01:00 PM

Beat the Leafs because them missing the playoffs would be the best thing ever.


Yeah this, NJ isn't getting in, but please don't let awful Toronto into the playoffs.  Beat them one goddamn time.

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#1254405 How do you really feel about the shootout?

Posted by Triumph on 20 March 2014 - 12:49 PM

It's closer to real hockey than the shootout.


How many times to random shootout derbys break out during the course of a season? Where free shots are given for no reason whatsoever. Where the sport of NHL hockey is completely suspended and a different sport is played.


of course 3 on 3 was voted down. The fans wanted it and are clearly getting fed up with the shootout. Why would the give the fans what they want?


Haha, projecting as usual.  A penalty shot happens way, way more often than 3 on 3 hockey if we exclude the already gimmicky 4 on 4 OT.

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#1253255 The Thread Formerly Known as The Reasons for Optimism Thread

Posted by Triumph on 16 March 2014 - 12:37 PM

What makes the scoring/forward problem worse is other than Jagr (who's essential to bring back), Ryder and Brunner we have a TON of highly-paid forwards signed for another two plus years.  They've pretty much locked themselves in long-term to most of this group.  The only lineup forwards that are FA's this year are Jagr and CBGB.  Next year it's Ryder and Brunner.


They haven't really locked themselves in, but that depends on their willingness to employ Dainius Zubrus as a 4th line player, because that's quickly what he's becoming.  If they're willing to move Boucher to RW (which I would hope they are, given that they do have a bunch of crap LWs signed), they could move one of Ryder or Brunner and get better that way.  Basically Ryder, Brunner, Zubrus, or Ruutu all would move, some with a little kick via retained salary, but I think someone would be interested.  The trouble with Zubrus is that he has an NTC.

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#1251901 2013-2014 Lineup/Roster Thread

Posted by Triumph on 11 March 2014 - 10:30 AM

That's how the business world works sometime, the person with more experience gets special treatment.  I'm not saying it's right, but I'm not going to sit here, bitch, and point the finger at Brodeur for simply wanting to play his sport.  We shouldn't be wasting time bitching and moaning when Schneider is clearly our starter, now and in the future.


How is Schneider clearly the starter?  After tonight, Brodeur will have started 32 games, Schneider 34.  That doesn't seem clear to me, and given NJ's inability to divorce themselves from Brodeur, it doesn't seem like it's clear in the future either.


Brodeur can complain about playing time all he wants.  He doesn't deserve more playing time.  He deserves much less.  And if his preferred destinations really did include Pittsburgh and Los Angeles, as Chris Stevenson reported on deadline day, he's utterly lost his mind.  If he's the face of the franchise, it's a franchise content to miss the playoffs to serve one man.

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#1251653 Finnish Flashes In The Pan

Posted by Triumph on 09 March 2014 - 09:55 PM

One thing interesting to me at least about the Tuomo Ruutu acquisition is that he's from Finland, and while the Devils have a long history of successful European players (including countries that seldom produce NHLers like Poland and Lithuania) they have really never had a good Finnish player.   Ruutu's signed for 2 more years - the question is, does he break the franchise record for points scored by a Finnish born player?  I decided to examine the team's history with Finnish players using the very helpful hockey-reference resource - I generated this list of players.


The franchise leader in points by a Finn is Tapio Levo with 69 - Levo scored over 200 goals in the Finnish league and I know he used to be a common punchline around these parts, seems like he just couldn't play defense. 


Next is the timeless Janne Ojanen with 44.  Ojanen, like Levo, never played for another NHL franchise and went back to Finland and ended up with 283 goals in the Finnish league.  He was still playing in that league in 2009-10 despite being 41 years old.


Then it gets dire.  Veli-Pekka Kotela apparently played for Colorado - he too crushed the Finnish league, but ended up with only 14 points for the Rockies.


Next is Anssi Salmela with 13 - say what you will about Salmela, but his two goals for the Devils are both pretty memorable - the one, he got concussed by Jeff Carter in a hit that would've drawn a suspension now (and it was a short-handed goal in a big divisional game), and the second was an OT winner in 2010-11 that had the Devils the closest to the playoffs that they would get that year.  He played two years in the KHL and hasn't played anywhere this year, but I'm not sure why - hockeydb lists him on two rosters in the Swedish Hockey League, but he hasn't been in a game.


Jukka Porvari and his 12 points are next - Porvari made the trip from Colorado to New Jersey and ended up playing in Austria the same year.  When guys off your NHL team go to Austria to play hockey later that year it's not a good sign.


Reijo Ruotsalainen had only 7 points as a Devil - he was acquired by NJ in 87 via the since-mothballed waiver draft but played that year and the following one overseas.  He came back to Jersey for 31 games, got traded back to Edmonton, and won another Stanley Cup with the Oilers.  He played 26 games for the Oilers in the regular season and 43 in the playoffs.  Weird career.  For years afterwards Glen Sather would list him as available in the waiver draft for reasons only known to him.


Ilkka Pikkarainen had 4 points and is the player more Devils fans should point to when people complain about the 4th line because this guy was not an NHL player but somehow got into 31 games in 2009-10.  This year he has 6 goals in 47 games for the Pelicans of the Finnish league.


Tuomas Pihlman played parts of 3 seasons in NJ, the bulk of which was in 2005-06, scoring 2 points in 15 games.  The Devils' forward depth in the minor leagues was ghastly at the time - Pihlman played 4 seasons in the AHL and scored 39 goals.  Pihlman appears to be a 4th liner in the Finnish league now.


Timo Blomqvist had 2 points in 20 games for NJ and appears to have been some kind of depth defenseman.  He's mentioned in some really old New York Times article that you can google about NJ basically being too broke to call players up from their AHL affiliate.


Next is of course Esa Tikkanen who was acquired in 95-96 and then summarily dispatched the same year without scoring a goal.  Never quite found out what went on there but I guess he and Lou did not see eye to eye - NJ got him for a 3rd round pick and then dealt him for a 2nd which is sort of nuts.  No doubt he's the best Finnish player ever to play for NJ but that's a lot like saying the best Canadian player to play for the Coyotes franchise is Brett Hull.


And then the two pointless guys - Olli Malmivaara is the tallest player to ever play for the Devils, which I guess is an achievement of sorts, and Harri Pesonen looked okay in a 4 game callup but will probably return to Finland at the end of the year and crush that league for the next 10 seasons.  Let's hope Tuomo Ruutu can accomplish more than this sorry bunch - he'll need 68 points spread over this season and the next 2 to make it as the franchise leader, let's hope he gets there.

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#1251008 Marty's Quote at trade deadline

Posted by Triumph on 07 March 2014 - 01:05 PM

I like to imagine Brodeur sitting on the bench while Cory's losing 2-1 yet again and thinking to himself 'Wish I could get out there and help this team more, I'd be doing a better job for sure'

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#1250861 2013-2014 Lineup/Roster Thread

Posted by Triumph on 07 March 2014 - 12:22 AM

Guys, guys, c'mon.  Brodeur isn't going to play in the playoffs, let's not be ridiculous. His play so far has already cost the team the playoffs.

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#1249803 The Official 2014 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Triumph on 05 March 2014 - 12:58 PM

Brodeur was never going to go to Montreal - why does Montreal want that mess?  They have a good goalie, so let's acquire the 2nd best Quebecois goalie of all time who can't stop talking about how much playing time he needs.

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#1249035 The Official 2014 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Triumph on 04 March 2014 - 11:38 AM

There's no evidence that anything more is happening than what was said yesterday.

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#1247291 Local TV ratings - Devils dead last

Posted by Triumph on 24 February 2014 - 08:04 PM

Devils ratings seem to fluctuate wildly, making me believe the ratings system doesn't work well to measure this instance.


Yeah, this is the first thing I thought when I saw these numbers.  If many teams in the NHL are gaining 50%+ and losing 50%+ year to year, I don't think these numbers are particularly meaningful.


I mean the implication is that there are fewer people watching on TV than at the games.  That's insane to me.

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#1247220 RUMOR: Callahan to be traded as per Boomer Esiason

Posted by Triumph on 24 February 2014 - 02:00 PM

The problem with always saying X player isn't worth the money imo is that, who are we waiting to sign? You don't get bonus points for having cap space available. I can see the duration being a problem down the line maybe, but you can always buy out the contracts. It seems to work for other teams.


Callahan's contract will not provide value in Year 1.  It will not provide value in Year 6.  Ryan Callahan belongs to the class of player who is always overpaid upon reaching UFA because he never takes a shift off.  His best years are probably behind him already, and he's likely to become more injury-prone as he ages.


The Devils can't afford a contract like this because they have too many other problems on the team and hustle isn't one of them.  Callahan's contract will be Clarksonesque - if he makes it to July 1, his contract will immediately be one of the 5 worst in hockey.

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#1246975 2013-14 Prospect Thread

Posted by Triumph on 22 February 2014 - 10:44 PM

Wow weird. I can see how Matteau's rating may drop because of his performance in last years' Q semi... But Urbom? Don't get it.


Urbom was rated highly in 2010, and prospects only ever get better, so he stays high on the list even though he just went through waivers without anyone claiming him besides NJ.


They don't have a clue at HF.

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#1244679 Discuss - Most Likely Trade Deadline Targets

Posted by Triumph on 08 February 2014 - 01:22 AM

Name another team besides the Devils and not named the Edmonton Oilers and Philadelphia Flyers who needed a goaltender as badly. While we can assume some teams kicked the tires who didn't necessarily *need* a goalie as badly, where was he realistically going? Most around the league thought it was Luongo going bye bye, including himself. 


The Flyers for whatever reason didn't pull the trigger. The Canucks weren't trading CS to the Oilers. Vancouver most likely preferred CS in the East, too. So it isn't a stretch to say that CS fell into Lou's lap. Knowing this, Lou stepped up, used an asset and made the deal, but let's not make it seem like he outbid and outfoxed half the league here like the Lou of old would. 


The Islanders.  The Panthers.  Toronto traded for a guy who they thought could be a starting goalie, so maybe throw them into the mix.


The idea that this deal 'fell into Lou's lap' is ridiculous - you know how I know it's ridiculous?  I don't remember reading ANYONE thinking this was a possibility.  It's an enormous trade - both what it suggested about Lou's faith in the team in the future (high) and what he felt about Brodeur (not high).

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#1243936 GDT - February 3, 2014: 7:30pm Colorado Avalanche vs New Jersey Devils

Posted by Triumph on 04 February 2014 - 12:51 AM




Good I'm glad he exposed our coach's obsession with Sal/Harrold/Gionta/Bernier.



lol he is talking about his own team, not NJ, and salvador wasn't even on the ice.  good lord

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