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#1203233 [Official] Damien Brunner signed to multi-year deal

Posted by Triumph on 14 July 2013 - 09:48 AM

do you think we believe this 100% when we post those? who cares ? its just rumoured numbers that we can discuss about, if those discussions are not high enough on your superior standard, well stay out of it thats all. Lot of us here just like to talk and discuss about those rumours. Not harming anyone and its entertaining. 


You're like that guy that you're watching action movies with and all movie long going "oh yeah, as if thats possible!"


We're here for entertainment dude. 


We've been over this.  I'd much rather hear what you think than what some idiot on Twitter making stuff up thinks.

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#1202994 [Official] Damien Brunner signed to multi-year deal

Posted by Triumph on 13 July 2013 - 08:16 AM

Seems like something got lost in translation, the Devils are actually pursuing Langen-brunner.  I kid, I kid.


I was gonna do a post this morning on the guys NJ could be looking at but truth be told Brunner should be #1 on their list.  I'm less than enthused about his territorial play (basically didn't push the puck forward himself, played with Datsyuk and Zetterberg), but as I've been saying, NJ doesn't really need a guy like that, they have a bunch of guys who seem to have done that plenty last season.

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#1202342 The "Now That We've Had Time To Digest This Thread"

Posted by Triumph on 11 July 2013 - 07:56 PM

The argument, and you won't like it and neither will anyone here, is that if the NHL were run the way it 'should' be, the way you're suggesting, the Devils wouldn't've had a chance to get Kovalchuk or sign him in the first place.  So it's a bit of a catch-22 - the only reason NJ could be that team is because of the salary cap and the way that revenues are shared in the NHL.  


I'm just glad of the 3 years I got to watch him and now no longer have to dread the next 6+ as his game continues to disintegrate.  No real hard feelings.

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#1202172 Kovalchuk Retired Effective Immediately?

Posted by Triumph on 11 July 2013 - 05:40 PM

This is the third time he's played this game, it has nothing to do with a lockout.    He's just a merc and he wanted his money.    Sometimes you gotta take things at face value, like his race to get 10-$90M and then having a hissy fit and threatening to go to SKA *then* when things caved in with that.


Maybe in the longview the Devils would have been best served to walk away then.


'He wanted his money' 


'It has nothing to do with a lockout'


These two things don't add up.

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#1201076 2013-14 Prospect Thread

Posted by Triumph on 08 July 2013 - 09:36 AM

Berube could be back on an AHL deal, but yeah, wasn't qualified and I doubt he'll be on an NHL.


Thanks Jason for digging those up.  BTW, for anyone deprived of hockey who wants to watch those games with Santini, he's #16.  I watched a few shifts late last night of the Finals, might watch the rest during the MLB All-Star Break, but it looked like they wanted him to break the puck out of the zone, not his defense partner.

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#1200853 Ryane Clowe signs with the Devils. 5 years. 4.85 per.

Posted by Triumph on 06 July 2013 - 07:12 PM

You can say what you want and turn it the way you want saying it would have been stupid back then. At the end of the day.


1- Lou made his first and only offer the day before Clarkson can talk with other teams

2- He wanted more than was Lou was willing to spend.

3- He walked for nothing

4- Said the leafs would throw the bank at him.

5- Signed with the leafs


at the second Clarkson refused that offer it was over and Lou moved on. 


i'm 5/5 on my predictions, called it months ago. it's not a coincidence. I was right and thats it. You can try to tweak it the way you want, i was right and it would have been the best move "in this particular situation" considering all the factors.


You are not Lou, nor are you Dave Nonis.  The fact that you 'called it' has zero bearing on what actually took place, because none of those things were close to a certainty, especially since you don't have any idea whether Clarkson would want to play for the Leafs and would possibly give up money to do so.  In fact, you don't even have any idea whether the Devils offered more money than the Leafs.


And again, the Devils could've made the playoffs, too, and won several rounds.  They didn't, but again, I exist in the world of possibility, not in the world of hindsight.

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#1198366 Devils trade #9 pick in 2013 Draft to Vancouver for Cory Schneider

Posted by Triumph on 30 June 2013 - 09:10 PM

well we don't know that. Not saying its gonna happen but we may very well be a week before free agency and Schneider will have not seen any offers yet. And folks here will say things like "if he want to test the market he totally deserved the right to do so and it may be his only chance to see big money and bla bla bla and if he want crazy money we're not gonna overpay him for sure!" etc etc etc.


do you ever give it a rest?  i don't want to have to ignore you.

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#1197659 2013 NHL Draft

Posted by Triumph on 27 June 2013 - 11:40 PM

(Grrrr, Tapatalk making me mad) I was going to say that the big problem with this article is that the writer considers anyone drafted in the first three rounds to be an "early" pick. Usually we think of anything past the 16th pick to not be an early pick. If he wanted to do something more useful, he should have confined it to the first round selections, maybe the second round, but no further than that. Or better yet, compare high point second rounders to low point first rounders and see if there's anything to it. Thats especially the case since he's making a pretty bold prediction that Jordan Subban will be a better NHLer than Zadorov.


That is casting a wide net, but it eats up plenty of 1st rounders as well.  Like I said, I don't like the certainty, because one junior season has plenty of variance in it, and a player can have a rough season by the percentages.  But it's something that I always say - while offense may not make it to the next level, it is always a good sign.  If you're not putting up points in junior, you probably don't have much skill with the puck, and it's hard to develop that outside of junior.  Indeed, there are guys like Chara who developed it later on, but they are the exception.  I think with a lot of these big players, the idea is that he has to grow into his body or something like that, but it's just not often that it happens.

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#1197387 2013 NHL Draft

Posted by Triumph on 26 June 2013 - 06:35 PM

The Rangers don't have any legitimate defense prospects, so them trading Del Zotto or Girardi would be a nightmare for them.  They are already down Sauer and quite possibly Staal


Now you are talking nonsense.  A team that drafts consistently in the 10 to 6 range that only has a bunch of players that are "capable of playing in the NHL" to show for it will always be drafting there because that team won't be any good.  Steve Bernier and Ryan Carter are capable of playing in the NHL.  Even if you don't take into account plausible alternatives, any GM that told you he wasn't disappointed because he got one of those players at number 9 would be considered a clown.  


Or how about this, imagine if Lou traded the number 9 pick for, I don't know, Cal Clutterbuck, a perfectly capable NHL player.  You can tell me how much he "drives play" all you want, but, if you were being honest at all, you would be screaming that Lou has lost his mind. 


Because GMs also don't know how to think probabalistically.  Josh Bailey probably represents the 50th percentile or so of 9th overall picks.  Here, I'll extend a band between 7 and 11, and go over the drafts since 1998 to 2009:


1998:  Malhotra, M. Bell, Rupp, Antropov, Heerema (1 out of 5 became a 'top 6 forward' - Bell was very briefly, maybe)

1999:  Beech, Pyatt, Lundmark, Mezei, Saprykin (0 of 5 became a top 6 F/top 4 D)

2000:  Jonsson, Alexeev, Krahn, Yakubov, Vorobiev (0 of 5)

2001:  Komisarek, Leclaire, Ruutu, Blackburn, Sjostrom (I'll be generous and call this 3 of 5)

2002:  Lupul, Bouchard, Taticek, Nystrom, Ballard (Again, generous, 3 of 5)

2003:  Suter, Coburn, Phaneuf, Kostitsyn, Carter (5 of 5, again, being generous)

2004:  Olesz, Picard, Smid, Valabik, Tukonen (1 of 5, generous)

2005:  Skille, Setoguchi, Lee, Bourdon, Kopitar (2 of 5, generous)

2006:  Okposo, Mueller, Sheppard, Frolik, Bernier (jury's out on Bernier, I'm calling this 1.5 out of 5)

2007:  Voracek, Hamill, Couture, Ellerby, Sutter (2 of 5)

2008:  Wilson, Boedker, Bailey, Hodgson, Beach (Generously giving 3.5)

2009:  Kadri, Glennie, Cowen, Paajarvi, Ellis (2.5 out of 5)


So that's 24.5 out of 60 players who became top 4 D or top 6 Fs, and I pretty much gave everyone who was marginal a pass.  This draft is supposed to be stronger, but again, you really can't go overrating a pick this high, it is by no means a sure thing, and if the Devils come out of it with a 2nd/3rd line player, it's not a disappointment, nor is it a triumph.

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#1193843 Will the Devils trade up in this year's draft?

Posted by Triumph on 01 June 2013 - 10:03 AM

I don't think we have the picks to get that done. Henrique would probably have to be gone in that deal at least along with a bunch of other stuff 


Henrique + our 2nd + 9th overall probably does it - maybe throw in something else like Mark Fayne.  But that's still too much.  

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#1193824 Will the Devils trade up in this year's draft?

Posted by Triumph on 31 May 2013 - 10:47 PM

I'm comfortable staying at 9 but I wouldn't be opposed to moving back. Just to speculate...Columbus picks at 14 and 19. I wonder what what it would cost if the Devils wanted to move back for those 2 picks? 9th+Urbom/Gelinas+?...I don't even know what Columbus needs or if they'd want to move up. Picking at 14 and 19 could yield 2 decent forward prospects like Zykov, Lazar, Horvat to name a few.


I think that's a tough trade to get done - 9 and 40 don't cut it, hard to see what else we could give them.  They definitely do not want Gelinas or Urbom unless they are for some reason really high on them (and again, I don't know how much scouting of the AHL NHL teams are doing, without reason), as they just tossed away John Moore in the Gaborik deal - I think they have a pretty good D prospect corps.  I'd trade 9 for 19 and give them a 2nd for CBJ's 1st round pick next year, again, not a move I see them liking, and a huge gamble to boot.

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#1188487 Devils have recalled Sislo, Pesonen and Gelinas

Posted by Triumph on 23 April 2013 - 03:45 PM

Henrique should be watching the wingers because that's where he belongs long-term. I'm hoping they'll see that by training camp next season.


It is not surprising that not playing with Kovalchuk and Parise means Henrique's point totals are down.  He's just not that great with the puck.  It would not surprise me if Henrique's 1st season represents a career high in points.

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#1187538 GDT New Jersey Devils at Philthy 730PM MSG+

Posted by Triumph on 18 April 2013 - 10:14 PM

Not to mention beating the Rangers.  I'll lose 2 spots in the draft if it means keeping those idiots out of the playoffs.

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#1187286 Elias about Lou's free agents approach

Posted by Triumph on 17 April 2013 - 06:10 PM

I hope I'm wrong, but I think the fact that our future is not exactly bright combined with the fact that other teams will offer him more money....


Why would you think the Devils don't have the money?  That's all they have.  Tons of cap room.  The idea that Lamoriello doesn't pay players is 10 years out of date. 


Most of the best teams in the league do not have cap room.  The Devils not only have it, they don't have any irreplacable players going UFA in the next 2 years after this one.

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#1180003 Devils trade for Matt D'Agostini (STL)

Posted by Triumph on 22 March 2013 - 02:13 PM

Life per Triumph


1- use numbers to try to backup a point or a prediction


2- when it fails, blame luck


This adds absolutely nothing to the discussion.  (and neither does my pointing it out, but you do this a lot and it's annoying)


The shots have to come up a little, but if he gets stopped, they do come up a little.   That's the life of a garbageman, goalie kicks out his pad to stop your shot, instead of getting 1 goal on 1 shot, you get 0 goals on 2 or 3 shots slamming it into his pads.    He's still 23, we'll see what happens next season.   But I like what I see from him scoring-wise.    And let's be honest, on this team if you sit around waiting for someone to get you a goal, it ain't happening unless you play with Patty.


Not really buying this explanation - plus Henrique is a center, how many garbageman centers can you think of?  I agree if he's moved out to wing he should end up with more shots and more goals, but predicting anything based of this 'garbageman' persona you've constructed for him over X number of games - it doesn't seem likely.  

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