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HongKongPhooey

Member Since 05 Mar 2007
Offline Last Active May 18 2007 06:49 PM
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In Topic: What Our Third Graders Are Being Taught

18 May 2007 - 06:49 PM

Most impressive. Also, love the avatar of the #1 superguy.


Thank you - on both counts. It's nice to be appreciated.

Regarding Phooey - I was a big fan as a child. It was just for kids, so I wouldn't watch it now. It would seem simple and childish to me now, but since it was aimed at kids that's to be expected.

However, I must admit that I am still a fan. And, I have the HKP T-shirt and Pajamas to prove it. LOL

In Topic: What Our Third Graders Are Being Taught

16 May 2007 - 06:33 PM

How humourous. You condemn generalizing people and then proceed to generalize. Well done. I'm impressed. You'll fit in well here.

There are a goodly number of socialist countries that are doing just fine thank you. It's not an all or nothing black and white world. We've seen pure communism fail in Russia as centralized government powers become corrupted and we've seen pure capitalism fail in Somalia as the lack of government has lead to chaos and suffering. Shades of grey seem to work best in this world.


Which socialist countries do you mean? The ones where people are dying from various diseases, such as, "curable forms of cancer" after having to wait in line for eight months or longer for treatment? Or perhaps you mean the ones with stagnant economies, rampant poverty, and little or no job growth?

Oh, wait! Maybe you mean the ones where the younger adults have almost no work ethic and have come to depend on everyone else and expect everything to be given to them (aka- uselessness) as if their very existence merits it?

Which ones were YOU referring to?

In Topic: What Our Third Graders Are Being Taught

16 May 2007 - 03:46 PM

I do understand why and how the Republican party was formed, I'm not disputing that. My point is, the Republican party, before, during, and for some time after the civil war, opposed slavery for reasons other than civil equalities. Your original post gave the impression that the Republicans abolished slavery because of their attitudes toward racial equality, which isn't true.

It would be helpful to the discussion if you could go into better detail. For instance, explain what you know to be the reason for Republican support for the abolishing of slavery.

Also, you stated that the Republican party opposed slavery "for some time after" the civil war. That needs to be extended. You should have said, "and ever since...," instead.

In addition, for those of you reading, keep in mind that ownership of slaves by our (USA) nation's Founding Fathers, most of whom objected to slavery and had stated so, is not the contradiction or hypocrisy it may seem.

At that time in history it was illegal for blacks to be free. There were dire and often fatal consequences for a black man or woman who was found to be without an owner. So they did the next best thing - treated them as well as they could. In addition, the framers did not have nearly enough support amongst the colonies to incorporate a ban on slavery into the U.S. Constitution. A 90% vote in favor of the Constitution was necessary in order for it to be ratified. Had the abolishment of slavery been made an issue, the Constitution would NEVER have been ratified.

However, they did make way for the FUTURE abolishment of slavery - "...that all men are created equal...," as well as, our "inalienable rights."

Nuff for now.

In Topic: What Our Third Graders Are Being Taught

16 May 2007 - 02:50 PM

cool avatar :thumbsup:

Thanks!

In Topic: What Our Third Graders Are Being Taught

07 March 2007 - 07:37 PM

Hrm? Who is "we"? There is a whole branch of capitalists (note the spelling) called anarcho-capitalists dedicated to the elimination of the state.

Not all "capitalists" are as homogenic as you seem to insinuate.



Anarchy in any form is inherently self-destructive.

The presence of a governing body is necessary for the safety of the people and guarding of the nation. This can be accomplished via a government body whose focus remains mainly on foreign and domestic aggression. Anarcho-capatilism supports the notion of the privatization of the functions of law enforcement and the military.

I know of no such groups within the US that propose such an institution. It goes against the core structure of our nation.

As for its application to capatalism (note spelling), again such a notion fails. There must be some sort of access to protection provided best by a govt., whether it be thru law or otherwise.

Enuff for now.