Right? Everyone's 'classless' and has 'no class'. No class this, classless that, shut the fvck up. Most people don't even know what words like this mean, they just parrot them because they hear everyone else say them.
So, people can go batsh!t crazy towards the new ownership over the song/chant but i don't see anyone giving Harris and Blitzer any sort of credit at all for doing this and taking the initiative. So much for they don't care.
You don't think it's a bit of a stretch trying to connect those 2 things just for the sake of being inflammatory?
Maybe for some here (I think he can do some right) , but I think he can do no wrong for 75% of Devils fans out there.
I would love for him to be a shiny new toy for a couple of months somewhere, but that won't happen. Around the league, it's pretty clear to what people don't want to see in NJ (management and coaching mostly). He isn't good. He isn't okay. He is bad.
Martin Brodeur has it better in NJ than he could have in any other situation in the NHL. He has started games in his hometown, he started the outdoor game, he has started 30 of 63 games when the stats say that's crazy. He faces the least amount of shots in the league, which really help his GAA (good luck bringing a .899 save percentage to any other team). Yet that still isn't enough, and he wants to be traded?
We all know that. We know he's not good anymore. But Deboer plays him, and win or lose, he gets crapped on by fans and the media sticks 50 microphones in his face asking him if he's leaving or retiring. Wouldn't you want to be traded? He's not the guy here anymore and everyone knows it, so whats wrong with him wanting to see if he can contribute somewhere else?
It's like I'm talking to a brick wall that has the ability to write, somehow. HE COST THE DEVILS POINTS. IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT THEY GOT MORE POINTS WITH HIM, HE COST THEM POINTS BECAUSE THE TEAM SCORES WAY WAY MORE WHEN HE IS NET, WHICH IS LUCK AND NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING THAT HE IS DOING. THE POINTS HE COST THE TEAM ARE BECAUSE HE STILL PLAYS WORSE THAN SCHNEIDER
This is the prospect thread, so I'm going to let it go. But I will point out again, if you're done with your little hissy fit, that I always said Cory was better, and that the team was still gaining points in spite of Marty's play. That's it. The whole 'who is better' or 'why they are scoring for one guy' thing is all from you. Sometimes people will disagree with you. There's really no reason to flip out over it.
Marty understands only one thing he feels he is the best, it's his ego always has been.
To be as successful as Marty has been, you have to believe you are the best. Any athlete who is or was at the top of his position in any sport does. It's those same qualities that get a player to the top level that make it hard for them to give up their spot. Guys like Jordan and Favre had the same issue.
When you've been one of the best at something nearly your entire life, it's not just flipping a switch to "ok I'm done now".
This is a reflection on the fan base. This should be a hot ticket among Devils fans because they were bitching and moaning about never, ever getting a outdoor game. When the Devils finally get one of these games (to the surprise of 99.9% of the fanbase) in typical Devil fan fashion, there's always issues involved. The problem is these are issues that are intrinsic to the experience and these same people who bitched and moaned and said they'd go....aren't.
If it's purely financial based not to go, of course that's an important decision and with the prices, you can't fault people for putting bills and everyday living over a hockey game (even though they had to know this wasn't a $50 ticket based on the WC).
CR or anyone can be a conscience all they want, but that still does not change that people in this fan base (inclusively) turned their back on something that they all clamored for.
If you start naming specific posters and bring up their past posts, then imagine the sh!tstorm that will follow when that happens here. I purposefully didn't want to name names just for that reason alone but I do have a few names in mind.
People change their minds all the time so yes you are right about that. However, I really can't imagine a fan base other than ours who keeps saying for years how much they want a WC and then when pretty much the only way we will get one through the SS, suddenly issues like prices, weather conditions, and the context of the game get called into question. I really don't go on boards of other fan bases really, but just quickly looking I do not see this from the other teams.
Honestly, with all of this… so what??? Who cares if someone said "boy I'd love to see an outdoor game for the Devils! I'd be great!" four years ago and then decided not to go to it? Why does that matter so much to you? Why does it matter if someone decides that sitting in cold weather or risking poor site lines for large amounts of money isn't their cup of tea? That means they are 'turning their back' on the experience as a whole?
And you 'can't imagine a fan base other than ours who keeps saying for years how much they want a WC' would decide not to go when getting one? I'm sure thousands of people liked the idea and 'would go in a heartbeat' but ultimately didn't go in the other cities. Does that make Buffalo, Boston, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago etc etc all bad fan bases? Saying you'd like to go to a hypothetical game on a message board isn't a legally binding contract.
You guys go on and on about Devils fans having a long way to go, as if every other fan base in the NHL flocks to all team events with their hands clasped on their laps and nary a drop of alcohol between them. Well… all fan bases have the same kinds of people. All of them. From Boston to Miami to Anaheim to Vancouver to Montreal, all of them. Some fans are drunken cursing morons. Some just want to enjoy some hockey. Some are eternally negative. Some are nauseatingly positive. Some go to every game. Some watch on TV. Some just check the box scores. Some ask for big ticket games and then complain when they get them. And some sit on their high horse with this narrow list of standards and practices that they want everyone else to follow because they believe that's the only way to be a 'good' fan. People shouldn't be persecuted for not attending a hockey game.