Whats ridiculous is you making assumption that he did something based on "nothing". Nobody knows! so my judgement based on reports from everyone involved is as good a yours "assuming he obviously did something" so who the hell are you to call me out on guesses and assumptions based on NOTHING while "at the very least" im taking the words of everything directly involved... i know damn well Lou is secretive and they could all have been lying hiding the truth but fact is we don't know that.
Lou has a LONG history of not negotiating during the season and thats exactly what he said he did and what Zach and Meehan said he did. So sorry for being such a moron and thinking thats what happen. You can go on thinking he tried everything he could based on NOTHING and ignoring how he made business his own life to make yourself feel better but stop calling me off for stuff youre clueless about bud.
Dude. Get over Parise leaving. You have been throwing this fit for 7 months. Just let it go. You are sitting here trying to say that you can run a team better than one of the most successful GM's in modern hockey. When Zach refused to sign long term in the summer of 2011, everyone saw the writing on the wall. He wanted his big payday. He hired Meehan and Arnott for a reason. He wanted big money and big years, and the Devils couldn't give him that, especially when they had questions of ownership at the time.
And I don't think Lou 'tried everything he could', whatever the hell that means. Was he supposed to get on his knees and beg him to stay every morning at practice? He probably spoke to Zach's agents, they laid out what they feel they could get on the open market, and Lou politely hung up the phone. The agents were hired to get him max return, not to help him exercise loyalty to the Devils. Remember when Zach said he wouldn't sign with the Rangers, and then he took that back the next day? That was from his agents trying to make sure they didn't lose a team that could help in a bidding war. And don't forget that Zach was the one who refused to sign long term in 2011. I really don't see what kind of strategy you think another GM could pull off in that situation. You seem to just rip Lou, but you have no answer to how he was supposed to convince someone to take less for less years.
The reason these guys are re-signing is not because of Bob Murray 'knowing how to sign his stars'. It's because they can only get that 8th season out of Anaheim. In this CBA, a lot of guys will stay with their old team for that very reason. In both Perry and Getzlaf's case, that's another 8 million or so guaranteed.
lol dude get a grip. we can't have this argument for the next 13 years. the devils are fine without him.
I've always loved Cam's attitude and everything-it-takes approach. That kind of heart on a player with skill would be perfect. Sadly, there's just no spot for him when there are goons out there that can also play the puck. We all know Lou loves him (he was supposedly choked up when he gave him up for Salvador a few years back), but I think even Lou realizes there's no room for 2 goons on the team this year when scoring is so desperately needed.
....but we do not know what Lou offered, so to use the arbitration figure as the Devils "offer" would be unfair
It's pretty much believed that Jersey didn't bother to offer anything once they saw the numbers that the Rags offered. Gomez signed pretty quickly that off season.
The point is I really don't blame him. I don't like that he went there, but the days of loyalty to a team are long gone about 90% of the time. Marty is one of the few exceptions, and people crap on him anyway.
God...the thought of Clarkaround playing on the 1st line scares the sh!t out of me. I know he scored 30 goals last season, but I swear at least 12 of them deflected in off his a$$.
I can see it now, Kovy breaks into the zone with the puck, Zajac drives to the net, Kovy looks to pass after 2 defensemen overplay him and he see Clarkson trips over the blueline and sputters to the ice like poorly made paper airplane, at which point Kovy thinks to himself..."I came back from being a god and owning a miniature giraffe farm in the motherland for this?!?!?!"
My hope is that Kovy learns to bank it off Clarkson's head as he slides by the net on his back.
A recent history of the NHL, according to (N)Єverson and I'd assume most of his readers...
1991-92 - Messier demands to become a Ranger because he knows how wondrous it is to play on a team that hasn't won in 50 years.
1992-93 - Season didn't count.
1993-94 - Most glorious season of all time. Rangers defeat Devils, win Cup, a golden age for hockey in the US. Matteau is my faves.
1994-95 - No season.
1995-96 - No season. Gretzky demands to be a Ranger.
1996-97 - Rangers defeat Panthers and Devils in playoffs, then the season is mysteriously cancelled for no reason.
1997-98 - No season.
1998-99 - No season.
1999-00 - No season. Don't look it up. Nothing happened.
2000-01 - No season.
2001-02 - No season.
2002-03 - Absolutely no season.
2003-04 - No season.
2004-05 - Season cancelled because of how boring the Devils and their trap was.
2005-06 - Um.. I think hockey was still locked out.... yeah. It was... no season...
2006-07 - No season.
2007-08 - Rangers beat Devils! HA! In your FACE!! Then remainder of season mysteriously cancelled.
2008-09 - No season
2009-10 - No season.
2010-11 - No season.
2011-12 - Rangers defeat Ottawa and Washington in thrilling 7 game series full of heroics and high paced offense, and then season mysteriously cancelled.
I don't think we can say this with any kind of certainty. It's possible that sitting out for a full season extended his career.
It's possible, but I think it's pretty obvious that Marty is a rare breed. Only a handful of goalies play as long as he did and maintained similar numbers throughout. He had 403 wins going into 2004-05. Assuming he had 40 wins on 2004-05 (which is what he averaged the 5 seasons prior), he would be at 443 at 33 years of age. Then, add the 15 wins he probably lost in 1995, and you're at 458. He gets 44 then 48 in 05-06 and 06-07. Now we are at 550. Now, in actuality, he has 44 wins in 2007-08, before his injury season of 2009-2010.
But if we go your way and assume his body breaks down a little earlier, maybe that stays at 20. Now we are at 570 and he is 36. Now, in actuality he bounced back with a 45 win season. That takes us to 615 at age 37. Assuming you are right and he can't do the 40 wins thing anymore after this, lets say he averages 30 wins a season until he is 40 (his age at the end of this past season), which is obviously very possible. He would be at 705.
There ya go. We can say hypothetically that he could be over 700 wins. Jeez. You coulda just said 'yeah, it's a shame about the work stoppages.'
The idea that losing Zach Parise means you just sign a player and throw him into Zach's spot is ridiculous. There's no way to directly replace Parise. This is a low risk depth signing with a chance of a high reward.