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Beezer34

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In Topic: 2014 New York Jets thread

17 November 2014 - 01:40 PM

Mr. RG3 sounds off during yesterday's postgame..

 

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/11/16/rgiii-distributes-blame-evenly-after-2nd-straight-3-7-start-to-redskins-season/

 

It can’t be on one person. It takes eleven men. It doesn’t take just one guy. That’s proven. If you want to look at the good teams in this league, the great quarterbacks - the Peyton Mannings, the Aaron Rodgers - those guys don’t play well if their teammates don’t play well. They don’t. I need everybody.. every one of those guys in that locker room. I’m gonna be there for them. I promise you that. I’ll give it for them every day. I’ll never quit on them. I need them to do the same. I believe they will. I mean.. what else am I supposed to believe?” –RGIII

 

Alot of people want to peddle Geno Smith's 9-15 win\loss record, (myself included) but Robert Griffin is: 12-20, and they're both the same age.

..seems like this divorce with Washington is underway. Might be worthwhile to try to trade Geno (with an added late round kicker) for RGIII, and pair him up with Vick next year. Just Sayin' :whistling:

In Topic: 2014 Miami Dolphins thread

12 November 2014 - 10:03 AM

The loser of Thursday's game is not making the playoffs, unless all the other current 4-loss teams fall off the face of the earth.


..it's really a shame too, because I think Miami is so much better than their record. They really should be 6-3 right now, with a chance to go 7-3 if they win tomorrow. Instead they'll be 5-5 with a loss to the Bills.. and probably miss the playoffs.

In Topic: DeBoer "Firing Watch" Thread

10 November 2014 - 09:48 PM

Any day now..


..yup. 3 wins over the last 12 games.
If they can't stop the bleeding, he may not even make it till Thanksgiving.

In Topic: 2014 New York Jets thread

10 November 2014 - 05:23 PM

thats also somewhat missleading though, because a lot of the seasons where vicks completion percentages were poor came early on in his career.

 

..that's a very fair point. Vicks completion percentages were; 44.2% & 54.9% in 2001 & 2002. They jumped to; 56.4% & 55.3% in 2004 & 2005.. and again to; 59.8% & 58.1% 2011 & 2012.

 

In fact, the website shows: The 6 years in Atlanta, Michael Vick's (in his 20's) completion percentage was 53.8%. However, the 5 years in Philadelphia, Vick's (now in his 30's) completion percentage was nearly 60%.

 

I never mentioned the Buffalo game (after all, Vick didn't start, he was rushed in), the problem with that game was the four additional turnovers.

 

..four turnovers? I'm pretty sure he only had three.

Careful now Has.. we wouldn't want to alter statistics in any way that would further your point. Just an innocent accident I assume. :thumbsup:

In Topic: 2014 New York Jets thread

10 November 2014 - 04:24 PM

You complain about selectively looking at stats yet you're even worse with that, Beezer (as was pointed out by the 'eight incompletions').

 

I was not subjectively looking at the incompletions.. I was analyzing them. CR completely misunderstood what I was trying to say. The point wasn't to imply that Vick completed more passes than he did.. it was to break down the passes that he missed, and indicate that more than half of them weren't due to accuracy. That's surprised me in judging Vick as a quarterback. I knew Vick was talented on the ground with his legs. What I didn't realize is how surprisingly accurate of a passer he is.

Wording and linguistics is hardly "calling someone out" by the internet police on a message board bro. If any POV sounds agenda driven, it's: "Oh well, Vick only scored 30 points over these last 2 games.. and you can't really count what happened in Buffalo either, because that was a blowout!" <_<  :rolleyes:

 

Beez, you've been watching football long enough to know that yards gained isn't a great measure either.  For one, as we often see, teams that run up big leads often give up a lot of garbage-time yards (prevent D) that can bloat stats favorably for the offense.  Pats beat up on Atlanta last season and the Broncos pretty good, yet Matt Ryan and Peyton Manning put up over 400 yards passing in those games (though neither looked terribly great doing it).

 

..that's absolutely true. (and I never said that Y.P.G. is not without it's flaws) But it's the lesser of the two evils.. and fundamentally, one of the only ways in determining how an offense is moving the ball week-in, and wee-out.

Please don't misunderstand what I'm saying.. garbage time, and\or special-teams field position CERTAINLY plays a factor in deterring YPG. However, despite the statistical variables, it is still the closest way to judge an offenses efficiency. --hence, why it is used by the NFL in ranking(s)

 

I find this attachment you have to Vick to be bizarre. I guess if you see him as "not Geno", that's fine.

 

 ..pretty much Daniel. When you've been treated to 25 games of Geno Smith over the last 2 seasons, anyone & everyone (including Matt Simms) can come in and win games, looking like the conquering hero. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Matt Moore your conquering hero a few weeks back? :thumbsup: