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Beezer34

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In Topic: NFC/AFC Championship Weekend and NFL Awards!

23 January 2015 - 03:02 PM

Your opinion is shared by many, including me Beez. Unfortunately, the NFL is the WWE now. There is no justice with this league (well, unless you're a team or an owner Roger doesn't like- then there's justice). But apparently there aren't any rules for teams like the Patriots. And now the Super Bowl will be ruined because Roger doesn't wanna piss off his butt buddy Kraft. It's unfathomable.

 

A part of me is very skeptical about that also MD. (this being thrown under the rug) But the larger part of me feels the punishment that'll be handed out will be major. There are too many people talking about collusion between Kraft & Goodell, and ultimately THAT will be New England's undoing. I think the NFL is deliberately dragging their feet with this, in order for the Superbowl to be played. But after that.. I think this is the last straw. I genuinely believe the NFL is going to throw the book at them the second the SB concludes. I think it's VERY possible that BB could be thrown our of the league entirely, if it's proven that he gave the orders.. and then went out and lied to everyone. The Patriots have made the league look horrible before, but enough's enough. Spygate was Strike 1. Aaron Hernandez was Strike 2. I think this time.. Goodell comes down extremely hard on his friend Robert Kraft.

In Topic: NFC/AFC Championship Weekend and NFL Awards!

23 January 2015 - 02:50 PM

And that's the point everyone keeps missing...

 

..this isn't some barstool talk from fans watching the game at the local pub.... this is real whispered conversation among NFL executives, General Managers, and former GM's. I think this cements the legacy (or lack-thereof) of this Patriots regime. Spygate was an isolated matter, that alot of people took seriously. But the majority were able to give New England a mulligan, based on the fact that it was a lone\solitary issue. However.. after this season, with what's going on with DeflateGate (and even what happened earlier in the year, with reports of Mike Pettine saying that Nick Saban smuggled the Jets playbook to give to BB) I think the tag of "Cheater(s)" will follow Brady\Belichick until the day they die.

 

This season was the last chance.. for that regime to really go out there, win the Superbowl, and exonerate themselves from the whole "cheating" moniker. But after all the sh!t that's happened over the past week.. the only way for the Patriots to be viewed as a legitimate organization again, is for them to win a Superbowl POST Brady\Belichick. Just my opinion.

In Topic: NFC/AFC Championship Weekend and NFL Awards!

23 January 2015 - 02:23 PM

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12216634/former-carolina-panthers-gm-marty-hurney-angry-spygate-amid-new-england-patriots-controversy

 

"There isn't a day that goes by since then [Spygate] that I haven't questioned what happened. That I haven't thought that there were some things done that might have been beyond the rules that may have given them a three-point advantage. I can't prove anything, and that's why I'm still very angry. And the anger has come back over the last couple of days. It's unfortunate that Roger Goodell decided to shred all of the evidence after Spygate, because I think there were alot of things in there that would have brought closure to alot of people. To me this isn't about 'Deflategate', this isn't about anything having to do about any particular game last week. And it certainly isn't fodder to get by the first week before the Superbowl. This is about a culture. Is there a culture of cheating at probably what most people look at as the best franchise in the National Football League? There are people who swear to me that the Patriots taped our practice down in Houston during Superbowl week. Again, I can't prove it. I don't know what happened. And I hate talking like this because I feel like a bad loser, but it just gnaws at you and this latest incident brings it back up. You go to spygate after our Superbowl and things came out about a rumor about a video guy, he had the tapes and then he goes to Hawaii and kind of disappears. These are all rumors and I can't substantiate any of this. But it gnaws at you. To me, this isn't about deflating balls; it's about a continuing culture of alleged cheating, and to me, everybody's talking about Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. When is Robert Kraft going to come out and explain why, if they are found guilty of this, why do these things keep happening in this organization? When will we hear Kraft speak? We heard Brady and Belichick talk, which to me meant nothing. I mean, what did you expect him to say? I don't expect the league to come out and say anything before the Superbowl either. I hope I'm wrong. I hope they do, but I still go back to why were all the spygate documents shredded after that investigation if there weren't highly damaging facts about what the Patriots did. Being reminded of all this really pulls up some pretty big scabs. They were 6-6 in the playoffs. Now they're getting to the Superbowl, and you're saying this is all behind them, and then this comes up? This is about: is there a culture of cheating that they'll do anything to get an edge? That is the bigger issue, and I think most people are missing the issue. It's an issue of if there is a culture of cheating at the organization that most people look at as the gold standard in this league. Is there a culture of cheating and breaking the rules? You go to people and teams, people that have played them and feel like I do. That they might have had an unfair advantage. You're going to feel that way. But winning that Superbowl, when you work in the National Football League, that completes your career, and that's all you work for. And when there's a question about it, that's why I wanted to see that evidence, and that's why I'm so upset about the evidence being shredded. I know I don't trust anything that Bill Belichick says because of all the rumors that are out there. That's why I want to see the report. I want to see what they did, or what they didn't do. Again, I can't prove any of this. But where there's smoke, alot of times there's fire.''  --Marty Hurney, former GM of the Carolina Panthers

In Topic: NFC/AFC Championship Weekend and NFL Awards!

22 January 2015 - 10:39 AM

Sorry about your cat, CR.

As far as the mess Bill was in front of the media and basically denied not only knowledge of this situation

By Goodell's own words ignorance is not an excuse either.

 

EXACTLY! --and that's the scope that they'll use against BB. (everything that happened with S.P. in BountyGate)

 

I've lost all respect entirely for Belicheat after that news conference. The honorable thing to do was to stand up there, like a man, and say: "no matter what, the buck stops here. This is on me, and I need to do a better job" Instead he did a Bill Clinton impersonation.

This will be lose-lose for BB. If it doesn't trace back to him, and New England fires equipment\ball personnel to sweep it under the rug.. the public will evolve on their theories of collusion between Goodell & Kraft. However.. if someone squeals and says this was directed from Belicheat himself.. then this gets REALLY messy.

In Topic: NFC/AFC Championship Weekend and NFL Awards!

21 January 2015 - 04:32 PM

Of course. Is anyone gonna sit and here and tell me they think the Patriots weren't deflating balls for the Baltimore game? Baltimore is a much tougher game for them. The Ravens are a better team than the Colts. If they're doing this in a game where they don't even need to to win, why wouldn't they be doing it in a game where even the slightest edge could make all the difference? I don't think there's any doubt about that, but it would probably be difficult to prove at this point.

 

Since 2001, the Patriots have won the Division 12/14 times... have appeared in 6 Superbowls.. and have played in 15 Championship games. (an average of 1 Title game…. every…….single……year) They have an overall regular-season record of: 170-54. (.760 winning percentage) That’s an average of over 12 wins a season, every…..…. single…… year. Of those 54 losses, only 16 came on home field. 16 home field losses, over the span of 14 seasons! :mellow: 
..there’s simply two ways to look at this. Either: *A) Bill Belichick (a coach with a 47-55 record prior to 2001) and Tom Brady (a QB drafted in the 6th round) are the greatest Quarterback & Head Coach in the history of the sport. Or; *B) They’ve somehow been cheating since 2001.

Over the past 7 years, the Patriots have now been caught of cheating twice.
Ask yourself this: If a “genius” like Belichick has been caught twice since 2007.. how much more has he gotten away with?