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#1272602 Let's start a pool of where Brodeur will end up

Posted by Beezer34 on 03 July 2014 - 08:42 AM

GMs have really done their homework on Marty. They see a guy who's not only put up a .901 save% the past two seasons, but has really been more of an .880ish guy save for a hot streak or two, is old, and whose GAA benefitted heavily from the team in front of him keeping shots down.

 

..we agree that his Sv% should've been more like a .897 this season.. however, even WITH the benefit of the 4 game hot streak, he finished 47th in Sv% last year, among goalies who played at least 25 games or more! He's got 32 wins over the past 2 years, playing nearly 70 games. --for Christ sake, can't he see it's over?! :noclue:

 

at this point i just want him to retire already.. before he starts embaressing his own name if it hasnt started already.. its time to go on

 

..oh believe me, he's already embarrassed himself in the court of public opinion. He's been embarrassing himself since he opened his mouth and began crying to the media in February. Reading njdevs & HF is down right comical when it comes to how the fans feel about Marty. Quite literally NO ONE wants him back here anymore. Congratulations Marty! --you've alienated your own fans. :thumbsup:


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#1264746 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs thread

Posted by Beezer34 on 17 May 2014 - 03:36 PM

It's destiny. I'm a Devils fan...... I'm sure you get the picture.


I'm a Devils fan too..

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..so uh, how have the last 20 years been for Rangers fans?
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#1258457 I'm just going to come out and say it.

Posted by Beezer34 on 04 April 2014 - 12:53 PM

No, no, no. The current outlook is better than the early 80's comparisons being made. How many times was the early 80's team even a contender for a playoffs.

 

I didn’t know you were trying to compare these last 4 seasons to the teams from the early 80’s. In that aspect, you are correct. The ineptitude is far from the failures of 30 years ago.

 

Pretty sure Beezer that Deboer is well over NHL .500 for his 3 years in New Jersey. (24 games actually) Why even bring up Florida? Multiple owners, multiiple GMs, multiple sh!t teams, and he still did a lot of good things with that team. The Devils have more ROW wins than almost half the league including a couple of playoff teams. Goes to show you how misleading the standings can be. 

 

As for the respect thing...Randy Miller of NJ.com did a pretty good piece on what the players think: Devils fans want new coach? Players rave about Pete Deboer, system

 

Beezer, do you think switching coaches to some NHL retread is suddenly going to make this team exceptionally better? Maybe, next year if the Devils win 7 more shootout games, we will be praising some new coach for really doing nothing more or less.

 

I’m not abolishing 3 seasons with another organization, for reasons of “multiple sh!t teams” excuse. I’m pretty sure just about every head coach who’s ever been canned will echo the excuse of; “It wasn’t my fault, my team just sucked.” Now (as if that’s not enough) we’re not to focus on these last two seasons either, because DeBoer got dealt a bad hand with the players on them??  :doh1:  So of PD’s 6 seasons in the league, the only one that deserves a spotlight is the one that was incredibly deep.. where he had 2 Head Coach caliber Assistants working under him?? I see.

 

..and 24 games above what??? Regulation losses? 32 losses via shootout\overtime are still losses.. you don’t just strike them from the record. We factor in DeBoer’s SO wins and OT wins into his overall victory equation, do we not? Oh that’s right, he only gets the benefit of the doubt when it comes to negative criticism. The good karma constitutes as good coaching. :thumbsup:

 

Furthermore.. your “ROW wins” appraisal is median abstracts devilsrule. EVERY coach has outlying feathers in their caps. “Kevin Constantine has the best winning percentage out of any Devils Head Coach in the history of the organization” -- “Brent Sutter won 50 games in one season.. the most ever in franchise history” --These are isolated statistics. They don’t mean that they were good NHL Head Coaches.

 

This article you’re showing me is from 2 months ago. Tomorrow will be our 20th game played since then. (we’ve won 8 games since January 31st) I’d like to think there may be an addendum in afterthought here, no? :giggle:  Lip service and inside judgment(s) are two separate things. I expect the players to say all the right things publicly regarding their coach. --3 players of the 30 who’ve played this season I might add-- That doesn’t mean things aren’t boiling over on the inside.

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To answer your question on: “do I think switching coaches would improve things?” –I can’t say for sure. I don’t know who would be the next to come in. But #1) I’ve seen enough of Pete DeBoer. 5/6 seasons missing the playoffs, doesn’t usually get you a 7th season automatically. #2) I would at least like to see if another person can get more out of this team before Lou blows it up. I don’t think that’s so unfair to ask.

 

 

EDIT:  And please… PLEASE spare me the shootout lamenting aswell. Please!

Bad karma and good fortune are variable exploits in sports, especially when talking about the shootout. DeBoer won 13 games via shootout in the 2012 season fans over-glorify. Maybe we already have a new head coach if we won only 6 of those. Maybe DeBoer wouldn’t even be here, if Florida scored an OT goal in the first round. Maybe if a frog had wings, he wouldn’t bump his ass hopping.

 

..I guess Woody Johnson really knows what he’s doing, extended Rex Ryan year after year, milking those 2 Championship appearances. How long does Lou milk 2012? –two more years.. three more years..


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#1241911 Brodeur embarrassed himself and the franchise today

Posted by Beezer34 on 27 January 2014 - 09:15 AM

'7' has been spewing sh!t about Brodeur for 6+ years that I can remember but the reality is Brodeur has been a below average goalie for 3.5 of the last 4 seasons.

 

If I can defend 7 for one moment.. the anger\backlash from fans is NOT because of the past or present.. it's due to the future! The uncertainty about whether or not this season's his last.. and fans are getting fed-up being pigeon held by a 42 year-old, who's only point in continuing to play seems to be an effort to further inflate his stats, to the point where (he feels) they're unattainable. It's bad enough to put DeBoer, Schneider, and the fans through this goaltending fiasco for ONE season. But to do it again next year?? --that's selfish. You want to continue your career?? --fine! But do it on somebody else's team.. not mine! (yeah, I just said that) We're fighting for a fvcking playoff spot god damn it.. and 100 years of conventional hockey says you; "stay with the hot goalie". You ride the guy who's white-hot.. and I had to see a goalie, who's been playing amazing with a Sv% near .930, ride the pine yesterday because this organization needed to feed the ego of ONE PERSON. A cold goalie who hadn't played in a week, playing a game in an environment less suitable for a player in his 40's, vs a player in his 20's. 

The Devils as an organization used to be untouchable.. not anymore. They preached team, they preached selflessness. They preached; "no ONE PLAYER is bigger than the franchise" for 30 years! --and all that went south yesterday, in an effort to turn a professional hockey team, into the Harlem Globetrotters.

 

*EDIT: What happens if Marty doesn't hit 700 even after next season? Does he come back again for 2016?? Is that how he'd want to be remembered.. as some compiler?? Because 700 wins off a career of 1991 - 2016, would be the definition of a compiler folks. --and if that's the endgame in Brodeur's head.. then have fun a blast ruining your career like Brett Favre!

 

Marty was not good, no doubts about that but our defense and pathetic captain were just as much to blame

 

This is not just about yesterday bro..

 

Brodeur:  28 GP,  2.52 GAA, .899 Sv% (ranked 40th in the NHL) --41 years old.

Schneider: 26 GP, 1.86 GAA, .927 Sv% (ranked 5th in the NHL) --27 years old.

 

..if it looks like I'm trying to make this seem overall simplistic, it's because it really is! Marty has been a .500 goalie (at best) since 2010. Over his last 250 games, he's manufactured 125 wins, since 2009. He can play the remaining back-to-backs, but THAT'S IT! I want to see this team ride Cory the rest of the way.


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#1237544 Do the Fire and Ice Lounges need some updating/refreshing?

Posted by Beezer34 on 10 January 2014 - 01:13 PM

What do fans who frequent both lounges think?  Time for an update/refresh for both lounges?

 

PartyPoker's our big sponsors now CR. This is what the Fire\Ice Lounges are going to look like by 2016..

 

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#1213967 Devils getting rid of R&R part 2 as their goal song?

Posted by Beezer34 on 06 October 2013 - 10:38 AM

I can't believe there are 27 pages to this thread.


..seriously. It's over.. put it to bed.
To carryon like this is like a child taking a temper-tantrum when they can't take no for an answer. You're going to boo after your team just scored a goal because you're angry about not being able to chant; "you suck!" ..and you call yourself a fan?! --let alone an adult?

The Devils can play Nights in White Satin after they score for all I care.. just so long as they score. --and if your excitement ceases 8 seconds after because a song comes on that doesn't tickle your fancy.. to the point where you actually boo, you really should blush as a "fan"
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#1209025 Schneider new mask

Posted by Beezer34 on 04 September 2013 - 07:28 AM

The only reason why it's getting flack from some people as being "generic" is due to the fact that Devil fans are so used to seeing the Devils logo. But if you're new to the team, I could see someone wanting to paste a bunch of the NJ logo's all over the place. --because the Devils logo itself, is one of the best in sports.. right up there with the Yankees.

If this mask had the same design as if he were playing in say Calgary, only it had Flames logos instead, the knee-jerk from a Devils fan would be; "oh that's really cool" -because they're not used to seeing that logo as much. A mask should look good from far away imo. Mask's with too much going on never really grew on me.

 

..that said, I would've liked it if the entire mask were black & white (as the top portion is) without any color on it whatsoever.


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#1208615 2013 Jets Thread

Posted by Beezer34 on 30 August 2013 - 09:54 AM

hes always been like that. ppl r sick of it


Because misery loves company. Maybe if my team produced only two winning seasons since 2004 I'd feel a little differently.. but I've seen this administration play 6 playoff games since 2010.. and I'm hopeful that they can pull a rabbit out of a hat again.
..and if people want to roll their eyes on my positive point of view as a fan, or my optimistic take regarding the Jets on a Jets thread.. there's really a simple way to resolve that... FVCK OFF THE THREAD.
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#1207065 Fox 29 Philadelphia Confirm Devils sold to Josh Harris

Posted by Beezer34 on 15 August 2013 - 08:59 AM

They will keep the arena and the entertainment business and sell off the Devils for relocation if the Devils don't cut it,

 

The Devils have sold-out 30 of their last 39, and have averaged 17,000 over the last 50 home games.

..remind me again why I should believe this team “won’t cut it” ?? :noclue: 


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#1204568 RUMOR Jagr interested in Devils

Posted by Beezer34 on 21 July 2013 - 09:32 PM

i can remember great trades and signings from the late 90's of andreychuk thomas housley gilmore nichols broten


Early 90's too..
Peter Stastny, Slava Fetisov, Walt Poddubny, Claude Lemieux, Stephane Richer. Lou will give you at least 1 name per season, be it an all-star player.. or older veteran. The exception came between 2001 & 2005 -which is where the boring moniker comes from. Albeit the Niewendyk transaction there were very little flashy trades\signings during these years, because with homegrown talent like: Brodeur, Gomez, Daneyko, Rafalski, Elias, Sykora, Niedermayer, Gionta, Madden, White, etc.. there really didn't need to be! Meanwhile the rest of the league was spending money like maniacs on "SuperStar Teams."

Between 2001 & 2004, the Colorado Avalanche had; Sakic, Roy, Foote, Bourque, Kasparaitis, Blake, Deadmarsh, Forsberg, Selanne, Kariya, Hejduk, Tanguay & Drury. The 2002 & 2003 Redwings had; Chelios, Datsyuk, Hull, Hasek, Lidstrom, Fedorov, Larionov, Shanahan, Yzerman, Murphy, Joseph, Robitaille, Schneider, Zetterberg. Then of course the Rangers with Messier, Leetch, Gretzky, Fleury, Graves, Richter, Bure, Lindros, Nedved, Kovalev, Holik, Jagr, etc.
The Devils throughout these years, were successful not only through losing players like Arnott, Sykora, Mogilny, Holik.. but by doing practically nothing during July.. and with Grant Marshall deadline deals. To say other fanbases became a tad jealous would be an understatement.
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#1198974 Devils trade #9 pick in 2013 Draft to Vancouver for Cory Schneider

Posted by Beezer34 on 02 July 2013 - 08:18 AM

Marty is done as a nhl starter.  I know lots of people want to keep him in nets, but he just is not a starting quality goalie anymore.  He cannot stay healthy for a season at a time, and isnt all that good when hes in net.  His S% was good for 42nd in the league last year.  If you take out guys who played under 20 games, he was still 36th.  This is the 3rd year straight that he has been under 30.  34th in 11-12 and 35th in 10-11. This is not a condemnation of his past contributions to the team, but a look at where he is now.  Many of these guys love the game and do not know when to call it quits because they will not take an objective look at the quality of their play.  Marty is quickly getting to that point.  Hes a hero, let him play 35-30 games if that many.  Call him the starter if it strokes his ego, but come game 10, if he is still getting played like the number 1 the Devils will have made the wrong choice in nets.

 

I’ve always drawn a parallel to the whole situation to the Packers & Brett Favre.. and I guess only time will tell if it plays out the same way. It almost becomes the detriment of a fanbase as retirement nears, in having a player whom is arguably the best at his position play for your team.. you know there’s a risk that it’s going to end badly. You’re dealing with pro-athletes and their bloated egos (and in part, that’s what makes them so great.. their competitive spirit) who don’t know when to let go, and transition from the game. VERY few of the greats bow out graciously.

I do feel that the whole; “Well, Marty can be a Back-up till 2016!!” notion is complete bullsh!t. He’s Marty Brodeur! There’s no life after being a starter, because that’s what Brodeur is, was, and always will be.. a starter. You can’t undercut Schneider to the point where he’s looking over his shoulder everytime he has a bad game. Marty has a cult-like following (obviously) and to put a kid who’s career hasn’t even started yet, in a situation where the fans chant; WE--WANT--MAR--TY  after every bad goal, isn’t fair. To deal with this for 1 season.. okay, fine. I can go through with that. But after this season (and I know this is going to sound sacrilegious to many) the most healthy thing for the Devils going forward is a clean break from Brodeur.. a long-term contract for Schneider.. and either Kinkaid or Wedgewood the backup. *again.. the parallel; Would Aaron Rodgers have played with as much confidence having Brett Favre looking over his shoulder in Green Bay?? :noclue:  Typically, the legends of sports just retire when father-time gives them a tap on the shoulder, because their shadow(s) are too large to except a role in a limited capacity. We just pulled a major heist in acquiring a 27 year old franchise goalie, and instead of the fans relishing the trade in unison, there’s a divide based off of; “Well how is Marty going to handle this??” --which is silly, because Schneider’s  feelings are JUST AS IMPORTANT to the organization, based on what’s left on the contract. If C.S. gets even the slightest feeling that his career has gone backwards in NJ from any type of distraction\controversy, then he walks in 2 years! And you tossed away a 1st rounder for nothing.. and are without any goalie.

 

I still hold out hope that this all can end well. I honestly can see that playing out. However, can I see the ending to the story where Brodeur wants to come back again in the same role as this season, for 2014-15? --the Devils saying; No.. if you come back, you’re a back-up that plays 15-20.. here is our offer for 1.6 million.. and Marty goes to sign with someone else, because he’s insulted by the offer, and wants to go prove he still has alot left in the tank? Sadly I can see that happening aswell.


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#1198906 Devils trade #9 pick in 2013 Draft to Vancouver for Cory Schneider

Posted by Beezer34 on 01 July 2013 - 10:25 PM

Schneider hasn't played 100 NHL games yet.


..nearly 100 games played, 98 to be exact.
Still though, throughout those 98 games, only 26 regulation losses! The guys got 53 wins over his last 79 starts.. pretty amazing stats over the last 3 years. What's-more, he hasn't even entered his prime yet! Seeing Schneider play any less than 30 games this season would be a letdown.

The Devils better do all they can here not to screw this up. I respect the fact that there needs to be regard dealing with Brodeur's dignity.. however, if Marty shows an unwillingness to bow out graciously after this season, then let him chase 700 on another team.
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#1153559 2012 Jets Thread

Posted by Beezer34 on 05 October 2012 - 04:39 PM

Look, I'm done sitting here defending my team against the world. My gripe came at Manta laughing at me for talking Jets\playoffs in the same sentence. I don't need people who aren't even Jets fans to sing about the state of my team minus Revis. I already know the score. I know my team. I know Revis' importance to my team. But at 2-2, my team has as good a chance at making the playoffs as 21 other teams. There's an old saying; that's why you play the games. Let's play more than a few games first before proclaiming a teams season dead. It's Week 4, and it's WAY too early to determine where anyone's team is thus-far. I think it's silly to toot your opinion at someone off the basis of assumption. We haven't even seen 30% our offense in full yet thanks to injury. We haven't even seen Berry (who was a starter in Detroit) play a single down yet. Can I at least see my team in action against a team that's not undefeated first, before determining on my own the fate of the year? That's fair to ask no?

Significant injuries happen with all teams. That's why I'm waiting to play the games first, rather than say We're doomed. Who's to say that the Bills won't look to tank their game with us for a higher draft pick? Or the Chargers won't rest staters? The Rams lost Amendola for 6-8 weeks. He's caught half of Bradfords TD's. That's huge for the Jets when we play them.
And here's a little nugget on the MIGHTY Cardinals: Kevin Kolb is 3-10 career on the road. Over his last 10 victories as a QB, 8 have come on home field. His last road win came 3 weeks ago in New England 20-18, due to Gostkowski missing a game-winning FG. Prior to that, you'd have to go back 2 years for his last victory on the road: October 10th, 2010. The Eagles beat the 49ers 27-24 due to Nedney missing a game-winning FG. Before that.. you'd have to go to 2009. Before that 2008. Get the picture? For the record, I don't hate Kolb. But everyone knows the book on him.. the guy can't win road games.
Arizona is 4-1, and in the words of Tuna.. "you are what your record says you are." -Having said that, I expect the Jets to beat the Cardinals.

My point is for every 10 things someone can say on why the Jets won't win, I can give 10 reasons on why we will. And in the end.. THAT's why you play the games.
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#1153539 2012 Jets Thread

Posted by Beezer34 on 05 October 2012 - 02:40 PM

Beez, with all due respect, you make too much of defensive rankings, and still have a way of not telling the complete story. Defensive rankings are based on yards allowed per game only. Take a look at points allowed. The Jets gave up 363 points last season, after giving up 304 the season before, and 236 the season before that. For all the heat NE took for their defense last season (because they gave up an absurd amount of yardage) they gave up 342 points...yes, they gave up embarassingly massive chunks of yards, but they found ways to minimize the damage. Now obviously, not all points are scored against defenses, but 363 is a lot to give up. And the total number of POINTS allowed is clearly headed the wrong way for the Jets...they're on pace to give up over 400 (I don't that will happen...I'd say 350 or so by season's end).
Who cares if the yards-allowed total for Jets was good for 5th overall...did the Jet D really feel at all dominant to you last season? Especially compared to the prior two seasons?


..there's not too much emphasis on YPG, there's not enough!!

The fantasy stat driven store mice harp about points.. but it's points that's the overrated statistic. NOTHING showcased this greater than the Bears\Eagles MNF game last season. Start of the 1st quarter, Vick has the ball on his own 8. Drives the entire field to Chicago's 4.. only to throw a pick. --Chicago goes 3 and out, punts the ball, Philly gets it on their own 5. AGAIN drives the ball the whole fvcking way to the 10 yrd line, fumble! Chicago recovers, goes 3 and out, punts the ball, Philly gets it at the 11. AGAIN drives the ball to first and goal, only to go 3 and out and settle for a FG. Al Michaels at this point even says during the broadcast; "and that's why we measure defensive statistics in yards."
Think about it! A team drives nearly 300 yrds at will by only the 2nd quarter, yet only has 3 points to show for it. And I'm supposed to be going ga-ga about my teams defense if I'm a Bears fan? :blush:

How about Week 1 for the Jets this year? How many actually points came from the Jets offense? 1 TD was a pick 6.. (7 points) 1 TD was a punt returned.. (14 points) and 3 FG's from Folk. (23 points) That's over 3 TD's worth of points that came against the Bills team, either without their defense allowing a touchdown.. or even on the field!!
What about Sanchez throwing 2 beachball interceptions to the Eagles last season on the 6 yrd line, and the 3 yrd line? That defense surrenders only 9 yrds, yet allows 14 points on 2 TD's.. is that fair? :noclue: My point is, in a sport where you can score points without the defense ever even being on the field (safety, punt block, fumble, pick6, return, FG's, etc.) yards allowed is the only fair way to determine a teams defense without several other variables getting in the way.

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EDIT: And no, the Jets defense didn't feel dominate last season. But no one's did for that matter. It was difficult to accurately gauge any teams defense including the Jets, because of the level of drop-off. Whether it was due to the lockout or not, most fans will tell you that the majority of teams 'D fell to mediocrity last season.
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#1152268 2012 Jets Thread

Posted by Beezer34 on 25 September 2012 - 10:09 AM

We beat New England in the playoffs, in their building not even 2 years ago. A better New England team than the lucky 9-7 Giants beat at a neutral site last year


But Manta's perception rings true of the popular consensus regarding the 2 franchises. He actually proved my point without intending to.
The double standard begins and ends with 1 Championship for a fanbase.. after that you get a pass regardless of what happens. Eli Manning throws 3 picks in the Tampa game with a QBR of 59.3.. yet he gets praised when it's over for; "making the plays in the end to put the Giants in the position to win". Sanchez did just that against Miami, and threw for over 300 yrds.. yet the media\fans have been killing him since Sunday.

The Jets 2 trips to the AFC Championship are considered failures because they didn't win it all. The Patriots have lost 4 of their last 6 playoff games.. but they sing it and they bring it. The Jets FA signings in Favre, Tebow, LT, Plaxico, etc.. are "knee-jerk" type moves. Yet the Pats signings of Adalius Thomas, Ocho-cinco, Joey Galloway, Shaun Ellis, Tank Williams, Kellen Winslow, Shawn Springs, Albert Haynesworth, Reche Caldwell, etc. are savvy.. because.. well, it's Belichick!!

..oh well, I guess after the Jets win a Superbowl, whenever that may be, the whole organization will get glorified whenever something goes right.. and get a mulligan whenever something goes wrong.
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