I'm still reading the tea leaves and guessing that Kessel is in the works. At the deadline Lou was working the phones pretty hard according to TG and Chere who could see it at practice. Seems like a lot of effort to trade Zidlicky to the one place he was willing to go to.
Then you add the fact that Kessel was on the block but you didn't hear anything from Canadian media about specific teams involved, unlike Phaneuf where you more or less had a play by play of the negotiations with Detroit. Lou basically made sure the Schneider trade remained under wraps even though the deal was reached the night before.
The hold up, I'm guessing was that Toronto was hoping for this year's first. So if the Devils are picking below 10 and finish up the season strong, you might see s deadline day deal. Otherwise it would be 2016 hopefully lottery protected.
And what do you know, Craig Custance wrote an article where he asked a couple of GMs what it would take to trade the number 1 pick this year assuming there's no Lindros type situation. (Behind paywall unfortunately).
“It would have to be built around a young stud,” he answered, naming a couple superstar players in the league who would qualify, guys up for major awards right now. “But how many GMs are in position to expose themselves to being wrong?”
On Monday, following the first day of the NHL general managers meeting, this same question was posed to Winnipeg Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff, another GM whose team is fighting for a playoff spot. If the Jets don’t make it, they’ll likely fall into one of those final lottery positions, the kind that have a less than one percent chance of earning the No. 1 pick.
But if lightning strikes, what would it take him to trade out of it?
“Probably a new general manager,” Cheveldayoff said, laughing. “When special players like that come around, they certainly can make an impact.”
Really, there’s one GM most qualified to answer that question. Buffalo Sabres GM Tim Murray currently runs the franchise most likely to win the draft lottery, and barring a late-season charge, will have a 20 percent chance of landing the McDavid pick when the NHL hosts its draft lottery. To a guy like Cheveldayoff, the price to trade McDavid is more of a thought exercise. To a guy like Murray, it may be a question he actually faces.
“It would be impossible -- almost impossible for me to move it,” Murray said on Monday afternoon. “I can’t give you names, right?”
But I guess these guys don't know anything about hockey.
There isn't a single player dead or alive that makes this team a playoff team.
This is plain wrong. The Devils could very well finish this season a few games above NHL .500. You have arguably one of the top five goalies in the league and a defense that should get better next year. Adding a center that will conservatively put up 70 points -- with pretty much nothing in production lost by whoever he's replacing -- does make this a good bet to be a playoff team.
I'll also add that he people that just respond saying "you don't know anything about hockey" generally don't know what they're talking about.
Tanking is not the right way to do this, just draft and develop better like Tampa Bay.
Notice how Tampa's roster has players who were picked numbers 1, 2 and 4 overall all of whom are under 25. And they sold high on an aging player for two first round picks, albeit he forced their hand, and not everyone has a player that can fetch that kind of return.
Again, we're not talking about getting rid of everyone. Just players that are likely not going to be here after this year, when there's a legitimate shot at a generational talent. If the foundation of a good team is already in place (debatable, but that seems to be your premise) then there's no downside to taking that approach.
I do hate that one. I am so tired of all of the commercials on the MSG telecast. Even that Ray Catena commercial where the couple buys a car and at the end are seemingly as satisfied as after sex with, "That was amazing". I have been muting the TV for a while now.
Ray Catena's ads are actually pretty helpful. I was planning to go to his showroom to seek help with my family affairs and life in general. But when I saw his ad, I realized he's only there to take care of my car, so I stayed home.
I'm indifferent to this debate but come on, embarrassed to root for your team cause people say you suck? Gimme a break. Who gives a sh!t what other people do and even more so who cares what other people think of our fan base.
I'm embarrassed for a number of reasons, not really because they like to say "you suck". As another poster mentioned, and quite sharply, the new ownership and management team is the reason the team is not bankrupt, has spent millions of dollars upgrading the arena, and is committed to keeping the team in NJ and building its own identity. Yet these morons will make t-shirts that tell a member of that management team to get lost because of a chant that half of the fanbase didn't care for in the first place. They've tried several times to have a goal song that everyone can get behind, including taking the effort to make an original one. Yet their low IQ baboon brains can't resist the urge to say "you suck" when it doesn't work, especially when we're losing 3-0. And not to mention that they boo after the Devils score a goal because they don't get tell the other team that it sucks at that particular moment.
The more the YS people talk, the more I despise them because they make me embarrassed to root for the team I have followed for more than 25 years. A complete and utter bunch of a$$holes. You morons ruin everything.
Isn't sad we all see that S. GIONTA isn't NHL material buy Pete and Lou love him as he downgrades our team.
He's proven to be an effective penalty killer and a decent fourth liner. He gets something like 15 minutes of ice time a game. At this point it's a toss up as to whether he's better than Josefson, who only has the cache of being a high draft pick. No other team bit on Tedenby or Bergfors, so it may be the case that Josefson is just another mid first round pick who didn't pan out, like about 40 percent of them.
Almost everyone involved comes off as so phony. Overlong well-crafted see-through fancy PR statements don't hide that.
Minnesota reactivates AP because they saw what life on the field would be like without him. Then Radisson drops the Vikings because of that decision, so of course now it's an instant about-face, but heaven forbid either statement had a shred of honestly in them.
All that's happening is that the NFL and its sponsors are watching and gauging the public reaction and THEN reacting, and trying to make it look like they're saying "See, we think this stuff is bad too! Very bad and we've known that all along! We're sensitive to it, always have been! We just didn't say anything about it until we were forced to make ourselves look like we're above all of this...I mean, you know, until we had to!" Sure, after it takes thousands of fans, sportswriters, and talking heads to get you to see that you should've shown that you were sensitive to this stuff to begin with, as opposed to people basically having to force your hands.
It's actually stunning how hard the NFL brand is getting hit...for so long, even when they did things that we didn't love, it felt like they could just about do no wrong. It's all come crashing down so hard and so fast. Yes, they'll survive this (we'll see if Goddell does), but who saw any of THIS coming a few months ago? The actual GAME of football isn't much more than a footnote right now.
Here's the question though, would a single fan stop watching or going to games even if Rice or Peterson were not even suspended for a single game? Maybe a few, and maybe you'll get a few protesters outside the league office and outside of stadiums, although you had just one protester show up outside of the Ravens' stadium with a sign about domestic violence. I know of not a single Patriots fan that has stopped watching Patriots games even though they were employing a psychotic triple murderer for three seasons, and knew of his inclination towards gun violence. On the Dolphins message board I lurk on, even the ones that were disgusted with the organization about allowing Incognito to do what he did, did not boycott a single game.
You would also expect the owners to do everything they can to hold on to Goodell. Fans might not care for him, but he's made the owners a lot of money. The owners did not get as rich as they did by being fools. While they might overpay for a big time free agent, they would not give Goodell the massive salary he gets unless he was making them even richer. I imagine each and every one of them is scared to death that they might be forced to replace him with someone like Condoleeza Rice, who might be necessary to help the image of the NFL in the eyes of sponsors and the press, but would not know the first thing about fattening the owners' wallets even more.
I've said it before, but much of the NFL's talent pool is made up of low-IQ violent thugs who are taught to be as aggressive as possible, who have been allowed to be violent thugs since high school and continuing through college. SEC schools seem to be in competition with one another to see how much they can bend academic requirements. You then give them millions of dollars and even more fame than they had before, and it becomes clear that Rice and Peterson might be the tip of the iceberg. And now media types are shocked! shocked! that many of these guys beat women, children and get arrested for all sorts of assaults. Give me a friggin' break.
Here's maybe the best take on AP that I've seen to date.
I’m all for leaving the government out of the bedroom, the bathroom, and the shed where you whip your boy with deciduous branches. … But Adrian Peterson isn’t really a dad. He’s a football player who likes to stroke his ego by impregnating women so the world may know the power of his seed. … He didn’t even know he had one kid until that kid was beaten to death. He may have as many as seven kids around the country.
Every summer Peterson hosts a Meet Dad Camp at his estate in Texas where his multitude of bastards get a couple weeks bowing down to the peacock before receiving some Vikings swag and a Greyhound ticket back to their moms. Just because you pay the court ordered child support and you like to brag about your reproductive powers doesn’t make you dad. Charles Barkley says all the black dads in the South whoop their kids like this. Great. … Make the Lorax weep with all the trees you fell just to make the perfect switch. But you can’t lacerate your rent-a-kid the day before he’s packed in the FexEd box and delivered back to his real home. Get some perspective. Adrian Peterson isn’t a throwback disciplinarian. He’s just a pretend dad who likes to hit kids with real sticks.
Bottom line, I don't have any regrets about the whole saga (we don't make it to the 2012 SCF without him, and ultimately I think Parise would have left anyway), but it was probably for the best that he left when he did. I still think there's a good shot we would have made the playoffs last year had he been here, but, in all likelihood we would not have gotten the pick back this past year. If Quenneville turns into a pretty good NHLer, or is part of a trade package for another good player, it would have been worth the mediocre result this past year. In the meantime, for all intents and purposes the cap hit is gone, and you wouldn't have to plan around the inevitable cap recapture, even if it would have been five to six years away.
And who knows, maybe there was something to the rumors that he's trying to find a way to return. But really it looks like the team has turned a corner. Perhaps the discussion here should as well.
EDIT: I'll also add that Kovalchuk brought a ton of excitement while he was here. Perhaps it doesn't mean anything to the Mr. Spock's of the world, but there you have it.