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#1243563 Discuss - Most Likely Trade Deadline Targets

Posted by Daniel on 03 February 2014 - 08:56 AM

I'll say it again, my dark horse trade deadline candidate is Salvador.  He's got that leadership quality that some GMs find attractive at the trade deadline, he doesn't have an NTC and his contract really isn't that bad (one more year for basically what an average non-ELC defenseman makes).  I think Lou's confident that Harrold can step in to the bottom pairing.  I guess it's really dependent on how confident Lou is that Larsson is ready to be a full-time NHLer again, or Gelinas for that matter.  Assuming that Volchenkov will be in and out of the line-up with various bumps and bruises, here's what a non-Salvador defense corps might look like.






I'm not familiar with the defense corps of a lot of potential trade partners, so it's hard for me to say where he would end up.  I suppose you could trade him for Parenteau.  Colorado would probably want to dump his salary and his production is set to decline anyway.  I really never liked him, but he's supposed to be good in shoot-outs. 


Trading one of the young defenseman doesn't make a lot of sense.  Would be one thing if we're a guaranteed playoff team like 2009-2010, but obviously not the case right now.  I don't see younger players that will be under a team's control available (like Kane).  People brought up the idea of a sign/trade for Statsny.  Usually word gets out that a team has given permission for one of its UFAs to be to talk to other teams -- like Callahan -- but haven't heard any news like that on Statsny.

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#1243299 Fire DeBoer Thread

Posted by Daniel on 01 February 2014 - 10:24 AM

More and more people are begging for it. Me, I'm not quite there yet. He's done a lot with a team that can't score goals. He was not as sentimental with Marty as a lot of people expected.

There's the player development issue, but I think it's a little overblown myself. He played Henrique consistently as a rookie, and Larsson as well until he got hurt. And when Larsson came back he was dreadful for certain stretches.

If you think the young guys not getting playing time is a huge issue, you have to blame Lou. Fact is, DeBoer is there to put the best lineup on the ice on a particular night. And for all you Gionta haters, he's simply been better than Josefson and Loktionov. And even if not, it's not the difference between winning and losing games. And neither of those guys would have been spectacular but for DeBoer ruining their confidence. It's Lou that put Larsson in the minors, and keeps Harrold on the roster, and decided to give Salvador the captaincy and a three year deal. It's Lou that decides to give Zidlicky another year. You can hardly blame DeBoer for not scratching Salvador or Zidlicky or whoever you don't like so Larsson can play regularly.

I know feisty posted that quote on his twitter account from Kulikov about DeBoer scaring rookies. Well, the Panthers still kind of stink, and Kulikov is part of that stinkiness. So maybe he wasn't that great to start with. It happens, although than you get to the chicken and the egg problem.

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#1242371 Martin Brodeur still pondering trade from Devils this season

Posted by Daniel on 29 January 2014 - 01:55 PM



 The less he says, the better off he really is.   


And that's probably not even true.  He keeps his answers short with no substance, it's obviously a sign that he's disgruntled and secretly plotting with Jeff Gilooly and Tanya Harding to have Cory's knee bashed in in the parking lot after practice.

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#1236532 Urbom claimed off waivers by Washington then by Devils from WSH

Posted by Daniel on 07 January 2014 - 06:45 PM

Eh, the people who criticize this are in The Cult of the New.

The Cult Of The New have a few basic precepts:

A: Young players are always better than old players
B: Everyone's a prospect until they aren't
C: Everyone who was once a top pick continues to be an intriguing NHL player until he turns about 32. (exceptions: players who actually get NHL ice time)

Urbom was a nice prospect but it didn't come together for him and it's not coming together for him in Washington, either. He'll probably bounce around the league for a while and maybe things come together for him and he becomes a 20 minute a game defender, but it doesn't look likely at this juncture.

I would add another one: All other teams would be extremely interested in parting with something of value (maybe even significant value) for any of our prospects that were rated above a 7.5C by Hockey's Future if only Lou weren't so stubborn.

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#1235583 Tedenby on Waivers

Posted by Daniel on 03 January 2014 - 12:50 PM

Per TG


Or as the Dude would say, "They finally did it, they killed my fvcking car".

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#1231622 GDT. Rangers vs Devils

Posted by Daniel on 09 December 2013 - 12:11 PM

Nothing... On paper, maybe their team 2 years ago was better than ours, it might have been the deepest Rangers team in a decade or two. But Sather traded half that team away.


This year's Rangers are NOT a good team, by any stretch of the imagination. When you look at the losses they've compiled, they let in 3-4 goals, they've lost 9-2, they've lost 7-0, they just lost 4-1 yesterday. They're the most inconsistent team in the league and I think they're due for a bad run soon.


If I had to pick one, I'd rather be in the situation the Devils are in, where we're keeping games extremely tight, losing games in the shootout, losing games by 1 goal at worst. 9 times out of 10, DeBoer has been able to keep the compete level extremely high, outside of a few games here and there. We're beating teams like the Penguins, the Bruins, the Ducks, Kings; we're winning in adverse conditions, winning in OT situations, and would be in a much better position right now if we didn't have 3 of the most unlucky weeks to start the season off. Let's face it, we were unlucky; the level of play was there game-in and game-out and we'd be in 2nd place in our division with one or two more positive results during that month or two of bad luck.


The Devils and the Rangers are pretty even I would say.  The Rangers were playing without Nash for a couple of weeks, remember.


The Rangers will always go as far as their goaltending will take them.  Lunqvist has had a fairly down year so far, but you would expect him to reverse things if he isn't starting to already.  I think the Devils and Rangers will be neck and neck until the end of the season.

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#1230324 Lundqvist, Rangers agree on extension

Posted by Daniel on 04 December 2013 - 03:02 PM

Sure it does.  The Red Wings won a Stanley Cup with Chris Osgood in 2008.  Any goalie can get hot.





It has been an albatross insofar as the Devils have seen themselves unwilling to get anyone who could even think of challenging Brodeur's starting.  It definitely did not help the Devils last year - sure the team couldn't score, but the goalies could not stop anything.  They played Johan Hedberg for 10 straight games with a save percentage well under 90%.






I agree.  But he didn't come up with one.  Not even a flyer on a guy who's been real good in the AHL or overseas.  They signed a guy out of college.  That's about it.  And drafting either Vasilevski or Subban wouldn't've helped at all with this season or probably next season.



You could hope for the team to not go with horrendous goaltending for 3 years.  The Devils are extremely lucky to have come out of those 3 seasons with what they did, given the goaltending.


Now you're starting to sound like SD with the speculation/other teams hit the jackpot, so why couldn't we.  Maybe they could have found some goalie, that maybe could have been better.  Or better yet, just go find a diamond in the rough in the seventh round of the draft like Lunqvist.  Or even better, Lou should have just traded Parise for Schneider three years ago since Parise was going to leave anyway.    Until you suggest a specific alternative that was reasonably plausible, this just sounds like another gratuitous let's sh!t on Marty opportunity.


Otherwise, the implication is that good goaltending is overrated, since any goalie can get lucky.  Hey, the Wings won the Cup with a bad goalie, and the Devils had a great year with someone who was evidently the worst goalies in the league. 


The bottom line, the goaltending over the past three years has not been a calamity, and now, it could very well once again be a strong point.  It's very hard to complain about that.

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#1220278 2013-2014 Lineup/Roster Thread

Posted by Daniel on 27 October 2013 - 09:35 AM


He doesn't have an NTC, which Vokchenkov has. And he has that "leadership" quality that some GMs like. That he was the captain during one of the worst stretches in the teams history won't save him.

Without knowing that much about their defensive depth, I could see Minnesota as a possibility.

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#1218111 Devils getting rid of R&R part 2 as their goal song?

Posted by Daniel on 19 October 2013 - 07:42 PM

To all the "you suck" people: are you actually trying to ruin things for everyone else, or is there just some sort of impulse you can't control?

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#1217716 The Zach Parise and Ilya Kovalchuk appreciation thread (trying somethi

Posted by Daniel on 18 October 2013 - 09:59 AM

I wish both of them were still on the team.

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#1215416 The Pete Deboer Thread

Posted by Daniel on 10 October 2013 - 01:45 PM

Completely disagree. Tortorella was the exact opposite of DeBoer in this regard.


Tortorella gave a shot to a young McDonaugh. Kid took the opportunity, and played his heart out for his coach. Similarly, young guys like Stepan, Hagelin, John Moore last year, and even Del Zotto a few years ago, were treated by Tortorella like men, not kids, and honestly looked like some of the Rangers' best players on any given night (aside from MDZ past couple years). He gave them responsibility and held them to the same standard of accountability that he held older guys like Gaborik (at the time) , Dubinsky (at the time), and Richards.


I don't think DeBoer should do what Tortorella did, I mean, we see how that ended. But a middle ground of letting the kids wear the man pants and treated with respect, while not being afraid to sit a veteran, somewhere along that middle point is what DeBoer should be working towards. This seniority bullsh!t isn't working. There's only so far a veteran presence can take a team.


DeBoer is more or less responsible for Adam Henrique, a third round pick that virtually all prospect evaluators felt was a borderline NHLer, being $24 million richer.  So it's clear that DeBoer does not have anything against younger players. 


Stepan and McDonough earned being "treated like men" through being excellent or arguably elite players.  Even the types that are most optimistic about Josefson and Loktionov can't think they'll be close to how good Stepan is.  And even though Larsson has the pedigree to be at the level of a McDonough, the fact remains that Larsson has not performed nearly as well as McDonough did the moment he got traded to the Rags, and by all accounts, will never be as good.  In fact, Larsson is already looking like he'll turn out to be significantly worse than two defenseman from his draft class, Hamilton and Brodin, if he isn't already.  As I've said, at some point, Larsson has to take off the diapers and deserve not to be benched.  He's been given plenty of opportunities thus far, with little to show for it.  Being a high draft pick only gets you so far.

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#1215220 Thomas Hertl 4 goals against the Rags

Posted by Daniel on 09 October 2013 - 12:15 PM

How come the Devils can never find these prospects?


Because they're usually gone before the Devils have a chance to draft them.

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#1215217 Devils getting rid of R&R part 2 as their goal song?

Posted by Daniel on 09 October 2013 - 12:11 PM

3) It was more like 15,500 of the 16,500 that were vociferously booing the other night.


It wasn't even close to that.  All it takes is a few thousand people to do anything in unison for it to be really noticeable. 


To say my peace, I've been going to games longer than 99 percent of the people that did the You Suck chant.  I can guarantee all of you, it only became a "tradition" when you decided to make it one.  The proof of this is available for all to see on any youtube clip of any home game going back to 2006.  The you suck types stubbornly refuse to acknowledge this.


It didn't offend me, I wasn't concerned about the delicate sensibilities of the children, and I didn't complain to management.  It was just stupid, immature, and for the most part, out of place.


It's too bad, because RR2 itself was an actual tradition, and a good one at that.  The you suck people did not stop me from going to games, but it certainly made the high points of the game less enjoyable.   


Hopefully, going forward, the people that are still butt hurt over the song can live with it, the same as the rest of us who put up with the you suck chant did for several years. 

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#1213925 Devils getting rid of R&R part 2 as their goal song?

Posted by Daniel on 05 October 2013 - 07:12 PM

Again, it has nothing to do with profanity or obscenity. I think at this point, if you need to ask, you'll never know. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Oh so it has to do with being down a few goals right? Ok so as said NUMEROUS TIMES chanting "This Is Our House" being down 4-2 provides the same result with an annoyed crowd.

Or does it have to do with the fact that a select few are "embarrassed". Well sorry yelling at hockey games is embarrassing to you.

It's embarrassing the same way that a John Sterling canned homerun call is embarrassing. Both the you suck chanters and Sterling are trying to be clever, when in actuality they're just being infantile and insecure.

It's just as stupid as dumb Ranger fans with the Potvin sucks chant. Basically Ranger fans are willingly reliving a time when the Isles were eating their lunch, just so they can think everyone else in the world thinks they're clever and have "traditions".

That Devils fans mimic it with random Ranger suck Flyers swallow chants is even worse. The Rangers suck so much, that some Devils fans try to copy everything their idiotic fans do.

Don't get me wrong there is always a time and a place for trying to get under the visiting team's skin and mocking them. It has absolutely no effect though when it's done just as a matter of course.
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#1211811 Fantastic News! Devils predicted to finish near the bottom

Posted by Daniel on 25 September 2013 - 06:42 PM

All right, everybody. We got 10 minutes to game time. Let's all gather round. I'm not much for giving inspirational addresses, but I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think we'd save everyone a lot of time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves. Me? I'm for wasting sportswriters' time. So, I'd like to hang around and see if we can give 'em all a nice big sh!t burger to eat.
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