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#1306839 I really am beginning to hate our fans.

Posted by mouse on 25 February 2015 - 08:41 PM

I don't have a problem with YS, though I respect the point others are making about it showing an inferiority complex. I think there are 2 real issues at games.

The first is an overly aggressive attempt by ownership to sanitize things. Sporting events are not pg. they're fun, and kids can certainly go and have a great time, but they're gonnahear some things. As others have said in this thread, it's up to the parents to make sure their kids know that what they hear at the Rock stays at the Rock, and give some of the cheers context (while ignoring others). I applaud the owners trying to bring in more fans, and I'm more than fine with policing some of the more unsavory elements of the fan experience, but ownership has sometimes overreached, and by seemingly trying to create a Disney environment at games (something a fan base with some Mickey Mouse issues takes exception to), they've sometimes created a morgue.

The other problem is the exact opposite. There is a growing group of fans whose antics resemble those of Flyers and Rags fans. The YS crowd has been unfairly lumped in with those guys, just like the anti-YS crowd has been lumped in with the sanitizes. Those fans do a lot more than yell "you suck." Whether they're spilling beer everywhere, shouting ridiculous, nonsensical obscenities around kids, or for that matter anyone who wants to relax and enjoy the game, for what seems like 3 straight hours, or, worse, starting fights with people out of some stupid need to protect their turf, they spoil the game for a lot of people. I don't think a game is like a job or a library (see above, and fwiw, i stand in the South Ward for Red Bulls games), but purchasing a ticket does not give you the right to do whatever the fvck you want. I also don't appreciate the fact that I felt the need to defend an away fan from my fellow Devils fans at one game. This crowd is still not huge, but they're getting worse, and the team's poor play isn't helping.

I don't know how to solve these problems. I think policing drunk fans more aggressively, while ignoring the low level obnoxious stuff will help. I also think separating fans is a good thing. Yankee Stadium has family sections, and Red Bull Arena gave the South Ward to the supporters, so people who don't want to hear f bombs, or a couple thousand people singing to put someone against the wall and shoot him, can just hang out in other parts of the stadium, where they can feed off the supporters' passion without hearing all the details. This could especially help the Devils, as many fans straddle the line between passionate and annoying. Keeping them away from the sensitive is a good thing. Especially because it allows passionate fans to do their thing, without as much interference from an overzealous front office. For that matter, it allows the supporters to feed off of each other's energy without dealing with people who don't want to make noise. This was working with what became the Diablos before ownership (previous) got involved and fvcked that up.

Short of major fixes, fans need to compromise. Don't be d!cks to kids, or more chill fans if you're louder, but don't expect a professional, profanity free, environment if you're not. Support the team without starting fights with other people. Stay passably sober, or at least sober enough to make good decisions. Stop whining that somebody talked trash against a rival at a sporting event.
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#1260373 Brodeur Article, name dropping where he might want to play, reveals wh

Posted by mouse on 11 April 2014 - 07:00 PM

Haha and yet Zubrus is one of the few players on this team with a decent plus minus rating, if he was garbage his rating would be atrocious with the likes of Ryder Bernier or Brunner. I stated many times and you can go through my posts that Zubrus is starting to wear down but by no means is he useless. What other guys can play PK, PP (when needed) Left Wing Center Right Wing on the third second or first line? Zubrus is a good player to have and a great teammate and he isn't losing us games like Brodeur. Zubrus is a good third liner to have but he's been forced to play top 6 minutes due to our lack of depth. Zubrus is not garbage and the fact you changed the conversation to him really shows how weak your argument for Brodeur is. Will he be a good backup? Possibly but there are quite a few better choices out there, don't be delusional. 

This entirely. Zubs is limited, but still valuable if used right. Using Marty right is chaining his ass to the bench.

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#1238529 The Rock doing well

Posted by mouse on 13 January 2014 - 09:15 PM

A ton going on here, so I'm not going to try to address each post, but just put some of my thoughts down.


First of all, I'm liberal, and unashamed, but also enough of a cynic to question everything I've been told, by my family, professors, the media, and politicians, so I don't believe I've been brainwashed, and find it a pretty poor argument that both sides make against each other anyway. My thoughts are not a result of some massive trick, and I don't believe those of my rivals are either. Let's move past that stupidly disrespectful argument, because it detracts from real issues.


I attended a Catholic school in Newark. The students were mostly black and hispanic, and from Newark and the surrounding area (Irvington, East Orange, etc), though there have always been some suburban white kids (including me) as well. It has a long history of successfully educating Newark students, when many Newark schools have failed, and very few alumni have been involved in criminal activity. Most of us are working to support our families, though many of my classmates, including some highly intelligent college grads, are working low paying, retail type jobs. IMO my classmates are not better people than those Newark residents who were not fortunate enough to attend my school, and are in much worse shape (criminals, jail, dead), or worse people than those who were fortunate enough to grow up in wealthy suburbs and have higher paying jobs. I believe that education is one of many factors that can contribute to people's success and morality (or lack thereof), and I believe that Newark's long history of poor education (some of the worst in the country) is one of many factors that has contributed to its problems. I believe in personal accountability. I know that we were taught to take responsibility for our actions, that doing the right thing always matters, and that our future success was our problem, and I have many close friends who chose to be "above the influence." I also know that that influence is more powerful in poor cities like Newark, where criminals become wealthy and comfortable, while hard working parents qualify for food stamps, regardless of their best efforts. I believe that, while we would like our country to be a meritocracy, it isn't, that too often, it isn't what you know, it's who you know, and if you're poor and a minority, you will struggle to get a job in a society that remains dominated by rich whites. I am a teacher, and I believe I am qualified. I got my job not because of my qualifications, but because my dad was friends with a principal. One of my black friends has been a sub for years, because he doesn't have the same connections I did. This is real, and it is serious.


America has a long history of institutionalized racism and classism that have created a ton of fvcked up situations. I don't deny that certain poor, black people have made them worse, but those of us who have been fortunate enough not to have been born at the bottom of the race/class totem pole need to acknowledge that 1) we are fortunate and 2) some of our good fortune is at the expense of others. It remains a whole lot easier to stay ahead than to get ahead. I don't know how to fix this problem, especially because I'm not willing to excuse certain people's behavior, but it's an issue that affects a ton of people, and it's egotistical, misinformed, and mean spirited to simply blame them for problems that go way beyond them.


While I believe that education matters, I do not believe in throwing money at the problem. I work for the NYC department of education, and none of the money we've spent has benefitted my classes. In fact, due to budget cuts, we have fewer teachers and bigger classes, though our school gets grant money to put in more computers, or run a couple of BS pilot programs. So when we say Newark schools have spent more money, we don't know if that money is being spent in useful ways or not. One thing I will say in Newark's defense is that a few Newark public schools are receiving national recognition, something that would have been unheard of 10 years ago. It is way too soon to see the effects of that progress. The students who graduated after said progress have not graduated college yet, so we don't know what they will do with that education, or if their positive influence will make a difference on future students. I'm willing to withhold judgment on Newark schools for a couple more years. The money they've spent recently may still be worth it. It may take a generation for this to really matter, which is obviously frustrating for everyone, but it takes time to fix years of fvck ups.


As for gentrification, there is a tough balance to strike. Ideally, Newark will be able to use the revenue generated by the downtown to improve education and law enforcement throughout the city without kicking out the residents. A vast majority of Newarkers are good, hardworking people who happen to be poor. They deserve to live in safe communities, to send their children to good schools, and to have the opportunity to break the cycle of poverty and violence that have plagued Newark for generations. If Newark gentrifies at their expense, and they are simply forced to move to places like Irvington, who the fvck cares that the Devils have a nice arena? Most of Newark's people deserve better than they have gotten, and the arena can help that. I agree that certain parts of the city need to be blown up. It's why I was fine with the James Street projects being knocked down, but Newark's leaders need to be careful to represent the constituents they have rather than the ones they want.

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#1232933 Was gifted a jersey

Posted by mouse on 16 December 2013 - 02:11 PM

I have a jersey with my last name on and my birth year as the number (82, same as the Devils move to NJ).

I am not a douche, as evidence by being voted nicest poster here many years in a row.


So, there ya go.

You're just the nicest douche here.

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#1224712 Would you take a shot at Yakupov?

Posted by mouse on 12 November 2013 - 10:28 AM

We turned Kovalchuk into the league's best PKer and a responsible player in the defensive end. Defense can be taught, offense is much more challenging.

Lemaire turned Kovalchuk into the league's best PKer, while DeBo has struggled with guys who don't fit the system. Also, Kovalchuk, despite all of his flaws, wanted to be coached. If Yakupov is clashing with coaches over system, it's not going to be as easy to fix him.

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#1222710 Lemaire and Younger Players

Posted by mouse on 04 November 2013 - 02:27 PM

Lemaire is obviously a great mind, and he clearly knows how to get a team together. He took a spoiled superstar in Kovalchuk and somehow convinced him to play a two-way game as best he could.

That being said, the guy's earned his time off. He doesn't need the stresses of being a head coach in his life right now. I hope he's enjoying the hell out of his retirement, and gets to keep doing so.

I'm selfish, so I'm hoping to ruin his retirement for 1 more year.

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#1219820 The Clarkson Hype In Toronto is Laughable

Posted by mouse on 25 October 2013 - 03:56 PM

I love Clarkie. I would never offer him that contract, but I wish him nothing but the best.

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#1206944 [Official] Damien Brunner signed to multi-year deal

Posted by mouse on 13 August 2013 - 07:45 PM

At this point, I'm expecting him to sign, then retire to go back to Switzerland before the end of the contract.

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#1205897 NHL expansion: Bettman reportedly pushing to put team in Seattle

Posted by mouse on 31 July 2013 - 03:40 PM


Ridiculous to keep on putting teams where they have to create a fan base and where hockey is like the 5th sport. If you want to sell lots of bananas, make a stand where rich monkeys are.


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#1196541 Devils Survivor

Posted by mouse on 22 June 2013 - 09:03 AM

Patrik Elias----------- 93 
Ilya Kovalchuk------ 87
Dainius Zubrus-------- 29

Martin Brodeur-------- 28 

Andy Greene---------- 27
Adam Henrique---------10-
Adam Larsson--------- 2+

Bryce Salvador
Anton Volchenkov
Krys Barch
Johan Hedberg
Harri Pesonen
Tom Kostopoulos
Steve Sullivan
Matt D'Agostini
Henrik Tallinder
Alexander Urbom
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Peter Harrold
Stephen Gionta
Marek Zidlicky
Jacob Josefson
Mark Fayne
David Clarkson
Steve Bernier
Travis Zajac
Ryan Carter
Andrei Loktionov

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#1191004 Rangers fans

Posted by mouse on 09 May 2013 - 01:53 PM

I try not to feed the fire of Rags hate here too much, especially when it's just sour grapes after a crappy season, but I had to post this conversation from work somewhere.


Me and one of the cool Rags fans were talking about Marty, and basically came to an agreement that he's the best ever, but is probably washed up. Another Rags fan butted in and this ensued:


Idiot Rags fan: I think Messier is the best ever.

Me: Goalie?

Idiot Rags fan: Yeah. I loved the 90s. We kicked the Devils' ass all the time.


Why are these people allowed to own TVs and go out in public?

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#1186343 Is this the worst stretch of luck in NHL history?

Posted by mouse on 13 April 2013 - 11:51 AM

I'm sorry but you're from Norway and can't imagine you follow the sport of baseball (who would outside of North America, honestly) - baseball isn't baseball.  Baseball has a giant luck element as well, but that is being ignored.  And if max were a baseball fan and our .500 team lost 9 straight - which certainly happens plenty in baseball - there'd be all sorts of reasons why.  It wouldn't just be 'Oh, they're not scoring in clutch situations, and their defense/pitching is bad/unlucky in clutch situations'.  He'd have all sorts of theories for why.


Yeah, Steven Stamkos scores on twice as many shots as David Clarkson, but Steven Stamkos is a once-in-a-generation player.  The guy who used to be Steven Stamkos plays for the Devils and is shooting 5% on his even strength shots and 2.5% on his 5 on 4 power play shots.  Now if you want to blame Kovalchuk being shifted to right wing for the ES number, fine, but he hasn't really been moved on the power play and the puck just isn't going in.  


5v4 shooting percentage between 2007-08 and 2011-12/this year for NJ:


Patrik Elias:  14.1/6.7

Marek Zidlicky 10.8/4.0

Ilya Kovalchuk 11.4/2.6

Travis Zajac 11.5/6.7

David Clarkson 12.0/12.1

Steve Bernier 11.0/18.2

Adam Henrique 0.0/21.4


Our top unit, in theory, is Elias Zidlicky Kovalchuk Zajac Clarkson, all of them are shooting at or below their career rate percentage-wise.  So did they all lose finishing ability?  Is Zach Parise a shooting percentage elevator?  I'm not buying it.


I think it's both. Some players are unlucky. That will change. On the flip side, guys ARE taking low percentage shots. Last night, most of the shots we took were easy enough to save. Most of our shooters can put the puck on net, and create rebounding chances, but aren't necessarily going to burn the goalie by themselves (Kovy and Elias are the exceptions). If that's the kind of player you have, you absolutely need guys who can bury deflections and rebounds. Parise is one of the best at that. Clarkson is pretty good too, which goes back to the luck argument, since he's not doing sh!t in front of the net right now. Either way, if they want to do something to get better, they need to at least give guys time to crash the net before taking mediocre shots. Too often, especially in the first, last night they took a shot that led to a rebounding chance, but nobody was near the net. Later in the game, when they started to scare Anderson a little more, they had guys crashing (though the Ottawa d did a good job mauling them near the net, partially because they don't have to pay as much attention to any of our shooters aside from Elias).

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#1176841 Leagues realignment plan now official. Begins next season.

Posted by mouse on 08 March 2013 - 09:11 AM

Like trying to kill a mouse with a hydrogen bomb.

Please don't.

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#1170081 David Clarkson

Posted by mouse on 11 February 2013 - 09:54 AM

The thing that impresses me is that many of the complaints about Clarkie were true. He's just such a hard worker he becomes a more complete player every season. By the time he retires he might have even mastered the nuances of skating.

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#1169909 Kovy's endurance

Posted by mouse on 10 February 2013 - 12:47 PM

When I played pond hockey I was on the ice the whole time. ;)


You'd have kicked my ass. I got decent by the end of my time playing ice hockey, but leave me out for more than 5 minutes and I'm sucking air.

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