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#1308644 All Aboard The Severson Train

Posted by devilsrule33 on 04 March 2015 - 11:03 AM

I love how young our core of defenseman are. That's why I refuse to believe we're in need of a 3-4 year rebuild. If we can score in this draft on a forward, add another Cammalleri-type player, and see Merrill turn it around and Larsson and Severson continue to progress, there's no reason to think we won't contend a year from now. Especially when our goalie is Schneider.


Contend? The Devils have absolutely nothing at forward. Keep winning, and they might pick 10th, and even if you draft a forward you like there, don't expect much for at least 3 years. Cammalleri is only getting older and running ridiculously hot. There is not a single UFA available that would be very helpful. Henrique is a 3rd liner. Zajac has the offensive ability of a 3rd line center. Elias will be 39 next season.


What are the Devils contending for in a year? A playoff spot is a stretch. I'm not down for a full rebuild, but I also don't think the Devils are remotely close to being an above average hockey team for a few years.

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#1307175 Some Thoughts on the Jagr Era

Posted by devilsrule33 on 26 February 2015 - 07:01 PM

The Jaromir Jagr era in NJ is one of the more depressing time periods for anyone younger than 35. It really only rivals the short-lived John Maclean-coached era. It began after a 2nd "superstar" in consecutive years left the franchise. It coincided with the awkward end of the Brodeur era. There was little offensive talent. No offensive prospects, horrible free agent signings, a complete inability to win a shootout (16, 17 losses in a row?), and it pretty much ended the day a coach was fired and Adam Oates was brought in (more on that in a bit).
But none of that should be a reflection on Jaromir Jagr. The man is a living legend, one of the ten greatest players in NHL history, and possibly the greatest winger in NHL history (a debate for another day, no disrespect Gordie). I got to see him as a New Jersey Devil. I got to see him score an OT winner live against the Senators this year. But what's so great about Jagr coming to New Jersey, unlike dozens and dozens of past-their-prime, all-but-finished former superstars, Jaromir Jagr was still damn good. I mean really really good.
When I said the other day I felt that Jagr is the most under-appreciated Devil ever, it wasn't just for being dumped into the middle of a ton of suckage. It's because of how good he was for a year-and-a-half, especially his 67 point season last year at the age of 42. A lot of people last year kept saying if only this team had Ilya Kovalchuk. That would have been nice, but as Tri has pointed a number of times, there is no Jaromir Jagr if Ilya Kovalchuk is still in NJ. And after Ilya Kovalchuk left, there is no way that Lou, Pete, and the fans knew what they were getting is someone as good as Ilya Kovalchuk. I'm still not sure people realize that.
Jagr averaged 2.20 points/60 minutes of ES last year. Ilya Kovalchuk averaged 1.55, 2, and a pathetic 1.18 in '11,'12, and '13 respectively.  He was a better 5-on-5 player at 42 than Kovalchuk ever was going to be as a Devil. By the way, his 2.20 points per 60 minutes was higher than in 2 of Parise's last 4 seasons in NJ.
But above being better than Kovalchuk, in playing all 82 games, his 67 points last year were more than the likes of Spezza, Stastny (both recently signing mega deals), Richards, Eberle, Iginla, Staal and Hossa. He was a point or two away from Toews, St. Louis, Kane, Marleau, Kopitar and Duchene. And I can promise you that none of them played with more offensively challenged players than Zajac, Zubrus and Ruutu. The former two being his most common linemates.
Being so close to the players I listed shows 67 points is a big deal for any player in today's NHL. The goalies are as good as ever, systems are stronger, there is less power play time to accumulate points, so the game really is about 5-on-5 hockey. It's not a game anymore where veteran players can survive being hidden on a good PP -- think Messier, Hull, Francis, Oates, and Nieuwendyk, and in the later years to a much lesser extent, Selanne and Whitney. To play now late into your career, you have to be good at ES hockey. Jagr was damn good at it at 42 fvcking years old.
He brought more than good play in a depressing time. He was the first true "character" the Devils ever had. I'm sure there have been some funny guys but Jagr never shied away from being himself. If it was making fun of Zubrus even though his math isn't great; "I got traded (in 2000) from Pittsburgh and had 120 points," Jagr recalled. "They put (Zubrus) on the line and I had 70. So, it was a 50 percent drop. So, it wasn't a good move", and “It’s a long streak for me without a goal,” Jagr said. “Zubie did a great job to shut me down eight games. Finally, I jumped on the ice when he wasn’t there, so I could break the streak. And one more: “He kills every penalty,” Jagr said of Zubrus, before adding, “And he kills all the five-on-fives. He’s just a killer. He’s killing me.”
Or if it was confusing Cam Janssen with Gretzky after scoring two goals quickly after being called up "Gretzky got here" or just making fun of other teammates, hoping to go a full season without a credited hit, reminding anyone that would listen how smart and how much of a physical "freak" he is or singing Meghn Trainor, it was always a riot And of course letting us know he'll be playing hockey forever: “I’ll tell you one thing, as long as I don’t die, it’s not my last year of playing hockey,” said Jagr, who will turn 42 in February. “I don’t know where I’m gonna play. I don’t know if I’m gonna play U.S. or somewhere else. I’m gonna play. I’ll play until I cannot walk. I love the game too much to leave it.”
So in an incredibly long career that hopefully won't end for a while, I'm happy that Jaromir Jagr stopped here in NJ, and we got the fun Jagr, we got to see over power defenseman in the corner, use his big backside, even on a 1-on-1, seemingly pass another legend or break another record nightly, and be the best Devils player at age 41 and 42. We never got the Jagr salute, but he did one better, he made it fun to follow the Devils on a day-to-day basis when it really had no business being fun to follow the New Jersey Devils.

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#1306359 GDT: Phoenix at NJ

Posted by devilsrule33 on 23 February 2015 - 09:41 PM

Mike "locker room cancer" Cammalleri and Cory "fools gold" Schneider lead the way again.

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#1304519 Hypothetical: Let's say McDavid pulls an Elway

Posted by devilsrule33 on 11 February 2015 - 04:13 PM

I put Henrique in there because he probably is the forward with the most value.  He has a long-term, cap-friendly contract, decent numbers and on the right side of 30.  Cammy is probably our best forward but his contract and age would be a determent to him being valuable to other teams.


And I agree with your assessment of Henrique and that is what makes Henrique being our most valuable asset kinda scary.


The Devils do not have a package that can get you McDavid. None at all.

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#1302618 Brodeur Interview with Gulitti

Posted by devilsrule33 on 30 January 2015 - 11:34 AM

A lot of people were wrong. But it is fair to speculate. Every single person found it odd. Imagine how boring any radio or TV segments would be if everyone said "I'll withhold judgement on why this is happening until we get more information."


It was the weirdest retirement press conference I have ever seen. Again, I don't have an opinion on it either way, but everyone thought it was off. Brodeur spelled it out quite well, but even his prepared statement was lacking. I'm not going to kill people for wondering.


What I saw was a lot of Devils fans speculating as well, and then once Brodeur answered a lot of questions afterwords, they are now giving sh!t to people in the media that were asking many of the same questions.


As Larry Brooks wrote yesterday...



Don’t know about you folks, but when I think of Martin Brodeur’s legendary career, the three players who come immediately to mind are Brett Hull, Bernie Federko and Al MacInnis, with whom he shared the stage at his retirement announcement in … St. Louis?


Obviously Brodeur wanted this day this way and his way. No one should resent him for that. But still, this announcement in a sterile environment devoid of Devils paraphernalia or personnel produced one of the most odd and off-key press conferences in memory. It was tantamount to what it would have been if Derek Jeter had wanted to play one more year, was not encouraged to do so by and with the Yankees, left to sign with, say, the Royals, played for a few weeks in the middle of the season, and retired at a press conference in Kansas City while joined on the stage by George Brett, Willie Mays Aikens and Bret Saberhagen before going to work in the KC front office. 



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#1293127 Brodeur sort of takes a jab at the Devils

Posted by devilsrule33 on 05 December 2014 - 12:04 AM

He said something we have all been saying forever....I know you just posted his quotes without comment, but really who cares. It's Marty, he'll be saying a few comments that might not people feeling good, but there is a lot of truth in the last bunch of years.


Brodeur will be seeing a lot more of that high skill out in the West.

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#1289431 GDT: Colorado Avalanche VS New Jersey Devils 11/15/14

Posted by devilsrule33 on 15 November 2014 - 11:59 PM

Oh and I guess it was too tough of a building for us tonight.


I'm just WAITING for Pete to slip up and say it during a home game lol, it'll probably happen soon.


This is just people dumping on Pete for anything. Anyone who has followed hockey for more than a day (and I know both of you know), "tough building" is a universal hockey term for a non-sh!t team that plays well at home or any road game against a team you've struggled with. It is used by every coach and player for pretty much ever. Is it kind of lame. Probably. But you'll find it said by any coach that you want coaching the Devils.


Darryl Sutter, on missing a chance to eliminate Chicago: "It's a tough building. Damn near got it."

Quenneville was asked if the Blackhawks took the Wild for granted and lacked effort while in Minnesota. Quenneville snapped back, “No, not at all, this is a good team. It’s something we stressed all year. This is a tough building.”

You’ve got to let your playing do your speaking in these situations, and I think he’s gone into some tough buildings and played pretty well for us,” Ruff said.

"The beginning of the season, with not a lot of practice time, it's not an easy trip," coach Todd McLellan told the team's official website. "We played in some tough buildings.

“This is tough building to play in, especially in the first 10 minutes.”

San Jose leads the NHL with an average of 36 shots a game and has scored in the first minute, six times this season.

“San Jose has been deadly in their own building and when you’re playing teams like this, it’s about what we leave on the table,” said Oilers coach Dallas Eakins.

"This is a really tough building," Hitchcock said. "It's a very intimidating building to play in. It seems like the people are right on top of you, and they play hard here. Nashville played really hard tonight."

Bylsma: We have two more wins to get, and we have a tall task going into a tough building against a very good team who is playing well.

"It's part of us putting blocks in our foundation and trying to learn how to win games," MacLean said. "When you can do it in tough buildings like this, those are real, real solid blocks that you can put into your foundation


-"It's a tough building to play in and we knew they'd come out strong, with some of the things that have gone on here," said New York coach John Tortorella.


- “You can’t change it,” Trotz said. “You’ve just got to deal with it. I would’ve loved to get the win tonight against a divisional opponent, but we’ve been pretty good on the road this year. We’ll go into a tough building and win some hockey games.”


- “It’s been a tough building for us to come in and play,” Berube said. “I thought we finally had the patience to beat them in a game.


- Coach Robinson: It is a tough building to play in, but it is actually a good building

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#1288765 Wild @ Devils

Posted by devilsrule33 on 11 November 2014 - 11:36 PM

Yep, doesn't seem to be the cancer that some people predicted. So far, so good, anyway. 


Just 1, I think. Count me in as someone who has been very impressed. He's a reminder of how much this team needs more skill up front.

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#1287997 GDT: New Jersey Devils vs Detroit Red Wings

Posted by devilsrule33 on 09 November 2014 - 08:26 PM

You are leaving one crucial facet out, they never spent up to the cap. This is not something that plagues the Devils.


Sterio has his opinions, but has no interest in backing it up with facts. As you stated, the Predators were never a cap team. They were $10-15 million below the cap many of their playoff years.


For a team that didn't spend much, they still had a decent offense. Looking at their playoff years...they had a better offense than defense 4 of the 7 years and only in 10-11 did they have a significantly better defense than offense.


03-04 - 12th GF,  20th GA

05-06 - 10th GF,  7th GA

06-07 -   4th GF,  8th GA

07-08  - 15th GF, 16th GA

09-10 -  15th GF,  14th GA

10-11 - 21st GF,  2nd GA  

11-12 - 8th GF, 9 GA


I really don't even understand what the Predators example is about  or how it relates to the Devils? If ownership allowed them to go all in for a top offensive player, they probably would have. Did they ignore offensive players? No.  Was their offense significantly worse than their defense? No.


As for your Cup winning teams:


2014 - Kings: 1st GA

2013 - Blackhawks 1st GA

2012 - Kings 2nd GA

2011 - Bruins  3rd GA

2010 - Blackhawks 5th GA


The most common thing that great Cup teams have is that they are very good at defense. Maybe if Nashville was a better defensive team, they'd  have gone further.

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#1287780 GDT: New Jersey Devils vs Detroit Red Wings

Posted by devilsrule33 on 07 November 2014 - 11:02 PM

How long do we have zero accountability ANYWHERE for losing two straight years, and it sure as shooting looks like a third straight year now?  


Again this idea that coaches with bad teams should never be fired is misleading, coaches get fired all the time on bad teams.  Besides they're going through the motions right now with a bunch of vets underachieving.  That's usually the tell for when a coaching change is about to be made.  Lou's tolerated a lot the last couple years but I don't think he's going to tolerate more 'efforts' like tonight or a 60% PK...you don't need a lot of talent to have an NHL PK.


If you don't want a coaching change fine but can SOMETHING happen at least?  They can't just lah-de-dah a third straight year away without doing anything of consequence.  Start selling off the old guys for assets, maybe trade one of the D for some help up front and start remaking this team.


There should be accountability when games like this happen once a week. Instead games like this have happened so rarely. This team 99% of the time is ready to play. The roster the Devils put out tonight playing on a back-to-back will not have much success with any coach.


Look at the fvcking lineup tonight. Gionta, Zubrus, Bernier, Josefson, Ryder, Tootoo, Ruutu,  Sislo, Brunner (he is awful), Elias (never seen him this bad), Zajac (struggling) and Jagr. It sucks. That's a really really bad forward group.


They can fire Deboer, but no coach is going to get that group going playing any differently. Lets just wait until they can get healthier and see if the team is struggling or not.

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#1280275 Scott Clemmensen "Wins" The Backup Job

Posted by devilsrule33 on 04 October 2014 - 01:38 PM

Meh. I think the difference between Kinkaid and Clemmensen is overstated. Neither one will have THAT much of an impact if Schneider stays healthy


The difference probably is negligible. But this team is royally fvcked if Schneider gets hurt. I also think 70-72 games is too many games if he is healthy. Clemmensen should have never been brought in.



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#1278589 2014 Training Camp Thread

Posted by devilsrule33 on 20 September 2014 - 10:19 PM

Pre-season is a small sample size, but with so many built in biases by the coaching staff to vets and gritty players, really hoping to see big camps/games from guys like Brunner, Josefson and Sislo.


There is so much forward depth, that it is driving me nuts that the staff and Lou are looking to dump an offensive player or two to fit in Carter or maybe even a Tootoo. The team needs to keep anyone that can score goals. Ryder and Brunner are players that can infuriate coaches and fans, absolutely...but, you have Clowe and Havlat that will never stay healthy. Even if Havlat does, he might not be good at all. You are relying so much on two guys that have a combined age of 80 to stay healthy and lead your team offensively. Not the best idea.


Then you have the 4th line, and for all intents and purposes, it looks like the Devils will try and keep that group intact. Why should we think otherwise? It's unfortunate because a 4th line can be improved in so many ways. Zubrus-Josefson-Sislo, Zubrus-Josefson-Brunner. I know it is silly because Gionta is locked in as a regular, but the Devils goal this off-season should have not just been about improving the top 6, it should have been/be about improving 9-12 as well. I liked Ryan Carter. There can be a role for a guy like him in the 4th line, but they signed Gio, they signed Bernier. Unless one of them goes, there can't be a spot for him.


Sure it is early, but when I see so many forwards and have enough info about Pete and Lou, it's getting me nervous already.

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#1273841 Kovalchuk Retired Effective Immediately?

Posted by devilsrule33 on 16 July 2014 - 07:51 PM

"I'm not your buddy, guy".


I have the same to say about it that we've all been saying for 2 years. Zach would have been great to have, however, not worth a 7.5 cap hit for 13 years. Same with Kovalchuk. He'd be making 11.3 million real money this season and next. He wasn't impressive in the KHL. What many of us have been saying, which is pretty clear, is that we lucked out on him leaving before he got bad. He had a great second half in 2011, and great 2012, and was ineffective in 2013. So he had 1 and 1/2 good seasons and 1 and 1/2 bad ones in his 3 year run. Those decade long contracts are exciting for one day when they get signed, and then you have to deal with the realities of them. I'm glad there's a limit on contracts now.


It's like when you break up with a girl and then find out that meth habit you suspected she had was real after all, and now you're glad you got out before it got bad.



Thank you.


DD56, I'm not sure. It really reminds me of when you used to date all these cute girl next-door kind of girls that were great in their own way, but a little boring. Then you get set up with this super-hot Russian girl, one of the prettiest girls you've ever seen that you have admired for a long time. Sure she is a little exotic and rough around the edges for your family's strict conservative values, but you are sure you can make some changes to her, so they approve. You find out at first she is so needy and demanding but you give into her demands because....well look at her.


At first you're disappointed, but it's probably a little blip in a very long-term relationship. Then everything is great, and she wins your heart by saying of the two of you "this is team", and she buys you and her these cool hoodies with your relationship motto. She has an extended break from work so In the summer she goes back to Russia to visit her family, and see some old friends, one of the friends that you know is really into her. He's gotten his act together and has a job, his own house and car...even if they are crappy at best. Next thing you know she is actually staying at his house, but you shrug it off because you just finished such an incredible year together. You sometimes hear some stupid rumours that she actually likes this guy she is staying with and misses Russia, but you dismiss it sounds like some jealous friends making sh!t up or some idiot that usually is only right about 2.3% of the time.


Eventually she comes back home, but you are not sure if things are still okay and the relationship seems a bit different, definitely not as hot and heavy as before, but that's okay. So things aren't as great as they were, and maybe she isn't as pretty as she once was. Then all of a sudden she completely shocks you one summer day by dumping you and telling you she is moving back to Russia and getting engaged to that guy she stayed with. You feel like you got punched in the stomach, but you'll survive. You keep thinking that you should have seen the signs coming, yet you were just blinded by love. On the plus side, you were about to build an $11 million mansion that she designed and demanded, and she left days before you were about to break ground on the project.


So you are looking for a new girlfriend, and there is just no one out there except this really old girl that you sort of used to know back in high school. Well really you watched her from afar, but never dreamed of talking to her. She was the most popular girl in school and was absolutely wild. Never in a million years could you see yourself with her. Except she's matured and is looking to settle down, and you're desperate and on the rebound. She's actually been hurt by a few boyfriends recently. Even though she looks great for her age, they keep dumping her for younger guys. So after a tough first few dates, things start to look really promising. She's smart, gorgeous and really funny. So easy to get along with and not demanding at  all. She loves everything about you which kind of shocks you because you are kind of plain and boring, and she's used to wild and crazy guys and more adventerous things. She really has matured and her priorities have changed. You know it won't last but you count yourself lucky everyday.


Yet part of you keeps looking at your ex-gfs Facebook page, and man does she look awful. Everything there seems awful, but you can't stop wondering about what could have been, even though you are in a better relationship now. And....wait wait.


Actually that doesn't sound like anything that we are talking about, Come to think of it now, it also very much reminds me of that girl you break up with who you suspect has a meth problem, and then it turns out she does. So fvcking true. We can all probably relate to that.



Now no more girlfriend analogies please, unless you can work meth into them.

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#1273709 Kovalchuk Retired Effective Immediately?

Posted by devilsrule33 on 15 July 2014 - 11:35 AM

I don't get the beat the dead horse posts. The thread was bumped...it's been a year. A lot has happened, and it is interesting to look back and look ahead with everything we now know. Plus, most of the emotion has been taken out of the equation, so that makes helps.


The forum has been ghost town for a bit, and this is good discussion.

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#1273220 Schneider re-signs with extended multi-year contract

Posted by devilsrule33 on 09 July 2014 - 03:57 PM

Lou conference call check list:


Mentions player's great character: Certainly


Avoids answering something very trivial: Without Question (wouldn't give the length of the contract)


Brings up how long the Devils have known or watched the player: Certainly (Prep School and Hockey East)


Says  "status quo": Yup...WAIT...he actually says "I don't think it's ever a status quo process".





Excellent signing by the way.

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