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#1260921 Martin Brodeur Final (?) Game Thread

Posted by devilsrule33 on 13 April 2014 - 06:50 PM

I enjoyed seeing the players give Marty his moment. That was a nice touch. Whatever your thoughts are, without Brodeur there are no Jersey Devils. He is the man. Even in the twilight, he dug deep and outplayed Hank to get them there one final time. In a year they were viewed as an afterthought. Brodeur is one of those special athletes that comes around once in a lifetime. He is a living legend. If he doesn't want to go out the way Rivera and Jeter are, that's his choice. Even with his commentary, the man is one thing. A winner. Even I know. Marty's Better.

 

How difficult was it for YOU to write that? Very well said, Derek.

 

As happy as I am to see the torch passed to Cory (hopefully for more than one season), it was great to watch Brodeur with his distinct style one more time, today. The beautiful puck handling The skate save on the breakaway. The standing glove save. He played the position differently. I'll miss that next season.


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#1259573 In a Season of Problems, Brodeur was the Biggest

Posted by devilsrule33 on 08 April 2014 - 09:10 PM

Your hate for Marty has actually gotten so extreme that sadly, anyone who doesn't agree that Marty was the central reason for this team's downfall is now going to be labeled a 'Marty fanboy' by you. The truth is that there is a reasonable way to hold Marty accountable for his play this year and an illogical one with only speculation to provide why Marty was our ruining this year. It's all based on an 'if' and a useless 'if' IF that. It is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fitting that this team basically got eliminated on a night where Marty didn't even play and the team scored no goals.

 

At that point it's like "DR33 isn't seriously going to try and perpetuate his wild Marty accusations tonight is he?" And then, there you are! Ready to attack sans shame. Let's ignore everything else and stick to the "Marty has killed us" line.

 

Let me predict your response: It will be something along the lines of accusing me of thinking only the number of wins Marty has matter, accusing me of thinking Cory is equal to Marty, or telling me that I am satisfied with NJ not making the playoffs this year. 

 

See, the thing is, I don't devote myself to deep analytic hockey analysis. If you presented a valid and reasonable argument that could convince me of the notions that you are presenting, I might be obliged to get on board. But you haven't, you actually haven't convinced much of anyone. So, now the response is to call us 'fanboys', because we don't blindly accept your fervent Marty hatred.

 

1) I don't hate Marty. I didn't like hm playing. I didn't like him talking to the media constantly, especially before he starts a game with huge playoff implications talking about next season and where his kids want him to play. Let me ask you this: Do you think any coach, anyone in management and most importantly his teammates appreciated Marty talking about the possibility of playing somewhere else a day before a big hockey game? I bet everyone would be a little annoyed or disappointed.

 

2) In a 5-page thread, you immediately jump to me...even though I never made any crazy claim that Marty is the sole reason the Devils missed the playoffs or the main reason.

 

3) I'm done explaining anything to you. You don't need any analytic hockey analysis to see why Schneider is better than Brodeur. You know Cory is better so what do you want me to convince you of? Why are you replying to me? I didn't start the thread.

 

4) You say it is fitting that the Devils got eliminated 1-0 with Cory in net? I mean in a way it is. But not anymore fitting than them losing 5-4 with Brodeur in net. Or Brodeur getting a win after letting in 3 goals on 9 shots, and Schneider coming in, posting a scoreless game, and Marty getting the win.


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#1258388 2013-14 OOT Thread

Posted by devilsrule33 on 03 April 2014 - 08:14 PM

i dont think it really matters who wins these other games nj is not going to do enough to help themselves anyway.

 

Exactly, plus Philly is playing a fine game. 30 shots on BOBROVSKY! with 10 minutes to play. Boston is on a 2nd game of a back-to-back playing their backup.


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#1256871 Brodeur vs Avery: The Feud continues

Posted by devilsrule33 on 29 March 2014 - 03:01 PM

All this talk about Brodeur vs Lundqvist is pointless for this argument. 

 

Marty Brodeur has a giant blemish on his entire resume with this public divorce. I'm not worrying about it, judging him or defending him for it. Although, I imagine if it was other way around, Devils fans as a whole might have a field day with it.

 

Anyway, when Marty starts talking about other people, he has to know that's always something someone has to throw back at him. Very few people will tough such a subject, but Avery is definitely that person. Brodeur's comments were a little unnecessary. If he didn't watch, why bother commenting too, and the contestants to receive a sizable amount of money for their charity. So with that component of it, forget about talking about him. 

 

Avery fired back in the only way he can and was vague about it enough that the hockey world could wonder if it was the sister-in-law or nanny, both, or were they the same people. No winners here. Everyone thinks Avery is a classless douchebag, and everyone is reminded about his transgressions. 


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#1255531 2013-2014 Lineup/Roster Thread

Posted by devilsrule33 on 23 March 2014 - 11:37 PM

I agree - just like after Schneider stole a game in LA, he alternated which ass cheek he would favor on the bench while Brodeur got 3 straight.

 

This is why people that talk about wins and losses being the reason Brodeur got more games don't understand why some people are still furious with the goalie situation. There have clearly been different rules for both goalies all season.

 

Schneider plays the best game a goalie has played all year to that point and still to this date against the Kings. The Devils escape with a win in a game they had no business winning. Two nights later Brodeur gets a game, and they lose. He gets the next game, and they lose. He gets the game after and they lose. Schneider finally gets another game 8 days later after the LA gem, and wins. He responds by shutting out the Sabres the next game. Of course Brodeur gets his Montreal home game after that.

 

It was somewhere during that time that Schneider showed his frustration, and he had every right to be. Deboer said he would be disappointed if he wasn't upset, but it made no sense that Cory wasn't given a game sooner.

 

If Brodeur does get the next game, well then this is why Tri says "You're also fine with missing the playoffs, as apparently the entire Devils organization is" or as Sundstrom says, "different strokes for different folks". Because it will be very clear that this season was about making sure Brodeur was never going to be the backup and getting him as many games as possible regardless of who is better.


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#1253922 GDT: Bruins @Devils 18th March 2014

Posted by devilsrule33 on 18 March 2014 - 10:09 PM

No one likes losing, and I am sure for most here this is uncharted waters for Devils fans, but there doesn't need to be one scapegoat. You want Deboer gone...fine. There is a good chance he is, but this really has not much to do with him.

 

This team is just not very good at all. Fans have been clamoring for Gelinas. Well you got him, and once again he showed, despite the offensive boost he could bring, he can't play a lick of defense. Not a lick. I think two goals were on him. People want to get upset that you Gelinas and Merrill were on the ice together late....again it's late, you are down 4-2. You fvcking roll the dice. This wasn't a tie game late. They were down two goals. You want Gelinas to be out there with Salvador? I feel that some people will find anything to blame Pete with. You dress him. You play him when you are down, and you do it with someone that can move the puck too. Wasn't everyone loving the Gelinas-Larsson tandem months ago?

 

Zubrus is finished. Rutuu is who we thought he was. Ryder is just awful. Brunner is struggling. Clowe is Clowe. Elias is 37. Brunner is slumping again. You rely on Jagr at 42 to be the offensive catalyst every night..with the linemates he gets to play with?

 

A new coach will not save this team. A new coach trying to get these players to play any differently than say...they have for most of the year...will only be a bigger recipe for trouble. This team will most likely struggle with any coach next season. Forget about the coach, and look at this lineup. Do you think a coach is missing the link?

 

What this team needed tonight was a Zach Parise. They needed an lya Kovalchuk. And they needed a David Clarkson tonight.

 

There are a lot of bubble teams around the league. The ones that are stepping up are the better teams that have had better goaltending and better star players to lead them each night. Not ones that have a coach that motivates them more. You want a coach that goes in and just screams and yells at a team that isn't good enough to win games. Well that was probably Deboer in Florida. You'll have a team quitting on a coach much faster that way. NHL players tune those coaches out.


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#1253517 Marty says Devils were "pretty close" to signing Parise... and

Posted by devilsrule33 on 18 March 2014 - 10:38 AM

 

 

 

Lamoriello said he would now implement Plan B, but wouldn't reveal what that might be as far as signing a free agent or making a trade.

 

Lou didn't mean plan B as his second option, he meant plan B as plan Butler, Bobby Butler.


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#1252977 Of all the times Lou has curiously fired coaches out of the blue

Posted by devilsrule33 on 14 March 2014 - 11:21 PM

Lou not making a move is perhaps a tacit admission he knows this team is **** even though he'll never admit it.  I really do wonder how Lou can let things happen like Larsson languishing in the minors though...that's even worse than the coaching bs.  Larsson and Gelinas were terrific together in November, the team won five of six.  And now Gelinas is in and out of the doghouse while Larsson's stuck in Albany for the rest of the season cause we keep stockpiling slow, mediocre defensemen.

 

Well they weren't an incredible team to begin with (the 2012 run was a fairly tale run), but you lose Parise, Kovalchuk and Clarkson and don't have a single player in your system to come up. You have to rely on B and C level free agents.

 

They overpay and sign for too long their own free agents. He created an absolute mess on defense he could not get out of. Salvador was obviously an atrocious deal. Zubrus looks done, and he is only on year 1 of a 3-year deal.

 

The drafting and development, once the crown jewel of the NHL, has completely gone stale. There have been way too many misses.

 

And with all that, they are a few fluke shootout losses out of the playoffs. I am not worried about Deboer. They don't need a Stevens. No one knows what goes on when the locker room door is shut. Coaches that yell and cream and embarrass their players publicly are not the answer. 

 

You fire a coach when you think you really have something. You fire a coach midseason and nothing changes...well only one more change to make.


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#1252974 Of all the times Lou has curiously fired coaches out of the blue

Posted by devilsrule33 on 14 March 2014 - 11:08 PM

There is no Brodeur in his prime. No HOF defensemen in Stevens and Niedermayer. No Rafalski. No A-line to wonder WTF is happening with this team.

 

If Lou fired Deboer, he should just fire himself. His coaching change worked once with Robinson.

 

It always amazes me that people will sh!t on the players and sh!t on the coach, but no one even questions the GM much.


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#1252117 GDT: Devils @ Phailures 7:00 PM

Posted by devilsrule33 on 11 March 2014 - 11:10 PM

It's easy to dismiss everything as a fluke.  For two years I've been hearing the Leafs are a fluke cause of their advanced stats, and yet they keep winning.  Last year and most of this year I heard the Devils' lack of goalscoring was a fluke.  What's the statute of limitations on whether it's a fluke...40 games, 60?  100?  Or is it just a fluke indefinitely?

 

Well how about this...Brodeur has been awful for 3 and a half seasons. The Devils have been in a playoff spot for 10% of that time. The winning with him is a fluke.

 

The thing about the Leafs...it helps when you have one of the best goalies in the NHL this season in Bernier.


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#1251005 Marty's Quote at trade deadline

Posted by devilsrule33 on 07 March 2014 - 01:01 PM

The stats are pretty bad of recent, Earlier in the season he was leading the league is Save % and GAA.  The difference now is that he is has collected rust because PDB is using Schnieder more and he is out of sync.  

 

My point was he now has something to prove and I think, based on history, he will rise to the occassion.   That was all.     

 

Stop making sh!t up. I don't even think Brodeur's numbers were better than Cory's...even at Brodeur's highest, and Cory's lowest.


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#1248347 My thoughts On Trading Marty

Posted by devilsrule33 on 01 March 2014 - 04:55 PM

You are missing a major point in this:

 

Marty wants a chance to play more. He is interested in a trade.

 

Anyway, I have posted a ton about it n the past, and the main thing is Brodeur playing 15-20 games anywhere else is irrelevant to me. Seeing a player like him in another jersey doesn't change anything that happened in the past with the Devils. I don't get why you should be devastated if he gets traded. The break up sounds like it would be as easy going as any long-term team-player relationship ever has.


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#1247211 2013-2014 Lineup/Roster Thread

Posted by devilsrule33 on 24 February 2014 - 01:08 PM

Exactly. It makes me wonder what DeBoer is smoking.

 

He is high because he wants to show video of a perfect defensive system....really? 

 

It's just about changing it up a bit. I am sure he shows a ton of video of the Devils doing good things defensively too. The team that allows the least shots on goal a game in the league.


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#1246943 Why I Could Never Root for this Year's U.S. Olympic team.

Posted by devilsrule33 on 22 February 2014 - 03:16 PM

International sports mean more than the pros to me because there are no salaries and the players are playing for their country, an entity that has real meaning, rather than playing for whatever billionaire owner gave them the biggest contract to be a product in their business.  Players can't be traded or sign with another team, their country is always their country.  There is no entry draft in place to promote every team getting a chance to contend every few years, the countries just need to produce better players.

 

While I am a fan of the NHL, it just doesn't have the same meaning to me.  The Devils' players generally speaking really don't have much attachment to New Jersey.  They are just hired to play here.  "New Jersey Devils" is really just a business, but Team USA has meaning outside of hockey.  In international sports, and in college too, the players have the same connection to the team that the fans do.

 

I don't know really about any of this. Your opinion is fine, but for these players wearing the NHL sweater of the team that drafted them could be just as important as wearing a country's sweater. For the players it is about the love they get and the support. You kind of get overwhelmed if you win a gold because you have an entire country backing you, which has to be a surreal experience. Having said that, say you are Patrick Marleau. You have been a Shark for 15 years. You win a gold in Sochi and go right back to the US minutes after you win. You win a Stanley Cup for SJ, I would think that one has a bigger meaning. 

 

New Jersey is always going to be a bad example because there isn't a great connection between the state or a city and the team. It would be different for many other teams and players that might very well have that connection.

 

I don't hate anyone on team Canada, but I have no interest in rooting for these hired guns, as someone said earlier, for two weeks when I root against them all year around. I don't have the connection with any of them, and I really don't care if they win or lose.

 

You speak of attachment, but it is a two-way street. Even if they did have the attachment they wanted, they would just be let down because the average fan turns on a player much faster than a player turns on an organization. You say it is a job or a business, but fans are into the business of winning, and that's it.


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#1246873 Why I Could Never Root for this Year's U.S. Olympic team.

Posted by devilsrule33 on 22 February 2014 - 06:23 AM

While I find it very funny that the OP used a joke column by a Canadian writer to help his point (not a joke in that it is crap, but the point of the column was meant in jest), and while I think his reasons for hating each player a little ridiculous, it's perfectly fine that he couldn't get into rooting for Team USA. Not sure why he deserves a lot of hate.

 

You spend all year, every year rooting against these players, and they get re-branded as Team USA for two weeks every 4 years and you HAVE to love them, now?

 

For some Team USA > NJ Devils and the NHL. For some it isn't. There doesn't have to be a right or a wrong.


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