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#1265471 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs thread

Posted by devilsrule33 on 25 May 2014 - 07:25 AM

Well, I did that after we lost to you in 2012. Agreed completely on the format. It's disappointing how much NBC/CBC spread out the series. It's the Conference Finals and it's being treated like the NBA. It hurts each series. I knew we would lose Game 3. That extra day benefited the Habs. Maybe this time around, it helps the Rangers with Brassard. My gut feeling is the Game 4 winner will advance. I am definitely concerned. Especially if Stepan can't go.


In 2000, I went for Dallas. But it would've been nice to see Buffalo beat them the year before. For LOTCB (Brian). Nobody has had it tougher than him. Neither of our sides have had to deal with as much heartache as Sabres fans. Same for Blues. They are mirror images. In 2003, I wanted Ottawa of course. But once you made it, I knew they wouldn't lose to Anaheim. Especially in Game 7.


Biggest rival? It depends who you ask. The old-time fan will say the Islanders. It's sad that they won't be on Long Island anymore. Barclays is not great. If you're going off recent history, it's the Devils. The hatred is pretty intense. But it's more Devils fans. Personally, I hate the Pens the most. That series game me more satisfaction than what they did in 2012. I can't stand them. The Crosby network. The league ignoring what their stars get away with. Mario Lemieux. They are the definition of loathsome. I can't respect guys like Neal and Kunitz. Crosby will never compare to Toews. He's not a true leader. Would a real superstar vanish as frequently as he has when teams play him tough? Don't forget the Flyers even though the first round series lacked emotion. It was weird.


I'm not sure I answered your question. But you might want to rethink how our fanbase feels towards the Pens.


Uhhh. I am hating this flavour of the week stuff. Toews is an excellent player that has all the qualities you want, but Crosby is soooo much better than Toews. The Penguins have had some touch years and the Hawks have been dominant, but that has little to do with Crosby and Toews but the players around them and their respective GMs. The Hawks have such a better team. Toews can disappear for an entire playoffs and no one can notice. I think Toews went 20 straight games without a goal in last years playoff run. The rest of his team propped him up long enough for him to score a couple of goals late in the series. 6 goals in 36 playoff games for Toews, but no one ever wanted to bring that up.


The playoffs are such a tiny sample size. The regular season has told us enough that there should be no other player in the league then you want than Sidney Crosby. Start an expansion team. You can take Toews, and I'll take Crosby. I think my team will be doing a lot better all other things equal.

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#1265431 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs thread

Posted by devilsrule33 on 24 May 2014 - 12:53 PM

I've read most of this thread and gotten some opinions from others that have taken part, so I'll add a few more thoughts and ask a few more questions. This is based on many of the posts over the last week or so in this thread:


Call it sacrilegious, but not only am I not cheering against the Rangers, not only is the Rangers winning the Cup to me be like if the Hawks won it 2010, or the Bruins in 2011, but I'd be genuinely happy for certain people if the Rangers won the Cup just like I am with any other team just as a fan of the game and seeing great players do well. So there all my cards are on the table...


As much as I love sports, rivalries don't interest me at all. I care about my team and that's it. I get joy out of the team I cheer for winning, and not from any other team losing. I get that I am different. Not better or worse than anyone here. It might have something to do with not cheering for a single team in my hometown and being close to the rivalries, it might not be. I'm not sure. But being where I am has shown me that every rivalry between fans is practically the same with each saying the other is insufferable.


I really think the Ottawa-Toronto rivalry is very similar to NJ-NY, where there are still so many Leafs fans in Ottawa, no matter how crappy they are, their fans still feel entitled because they are Toronto Maple Leafs fans and always have some historical series to piss Sens fans off about no matter how long ago it was. They also come in and own the Senators building. On the other hand, Leafs fans find Senators fans infatuated with the success and failures with the Maple Leafs more than the success and failures of their own team. I also see that Senators fans do relish in the Leafs' failures and don't let any opportunity slip from reminding any Toronto fans how pathetic their organization is. When the Leafs missed the playoffs, it was a celebration in Ottawa, but I also thought it was amusing that more joy was taken from that than than disappointment of their own team's very disappointing season where the playoffs were expected either way.


Here are my questions:


Some people here discuss Rangers fans like they are the most obnoxious kind of fans in the world, but the dynamic fascinates me for a few reasons: Firstly, as many have said, so many of their friends happen to be Rangers fans, siblings, parents, aunts and uncles are Rangers fans. We are talking about friends and family here! How insufferable can they be? I have to assume these people are good people, so it can be anything more than good old-fashioned friendly jawing, right?


Secondly, because of where you live and the Sports teams around it, the very same people many find insufferable idiot sports fans, happen to be on the same team in sports fandom when it comes to the Yankees/Mets, Giants/Jets, Red Bulls and maybe now Brooklyn Nets. Do these people suddenly become different when it isn't the Rangers? Does their arrogance suddenly change when rooting for a different team? Do you stop and say I am a Giants and Yankees fan, but man I simply can't associate with these fans because that same annoyance or cockiness resonates for other teams. Or as I imagine, because you root for the same team, it doesn't matter anymore because you are now "brothers" in fandom.


If the Rangers do win and you have to live through those fans having the upper-hand for the first time in 20 years, it's going to suck, no doubt about it. It's a group of arrogant sports fans finally having something to cheer for. But it hasn't been like Devils fans haven't been gleefully rubbing in their success and the Rangers failures over the last 20 years. I get there is a resilience to Rangers fans, it can be fvcking annoying or admirable, depending on how you look at it, but it's going to be the same Devils fan resilience that gets many through it, and maybe it makes us look like idiots to them. The Devils fans have a lot of things to hang their hats on, but it becomes irrelevant in the prism of a rivalry that should be about what have you done lately.


As everyone here has a story about a Rangers fan, all of them have been made out to make them so insufferable. CR1976 has the funny post about a Rangers fan bringing up 1994 and the Rangers going through NJ and winning the Cup, and the Devils not doing the same in 2012. It's silly, but god knows that's what we'd be doing if it was the other way around because that's all you got. We laugh about 1994, and everything the Rangers have done to honour that team since then, and rightfully fvcking so..rightfully fvcking so, it's absolutely embarrassing, but time flies, and it's been 11 years since the Devils won anything. If the Rangers do happen to win the Cup and brag about it, Devils fans will be responding with outdated comebacks. I hope many realize that, and I bet many do and that's what scares you about the Rangers winning. If the Rangers win the Cup in 2014, 2012 does become irrelevant. It would almost be like Rangers fans bringing up 1997 after the Devils won the Cup in 2000.


Disregarding a Rangers Cup win and saying, "well we still outnumber you in the last 50+ years" becomes just as pointless and soon Devils fans will become like Rangers fans talking about 1994. It's old news and desperate.


Anyway, the good news is that we are a long way from that. Those are pretty much all my thoughts on the matter and wanted to get them out in one post.

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#1264748 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs thread

Posted by devilsrule33 on 17 May 2014 - 03:42 PM

You don't hate Lundqvist? He's like the biggest pompous a$$hole. hitting ice girls, the smug male model stuff. How about St. Louis being a prick and crying his way to the Rags.


Not sure the exact reasons why St Louis left Tampa and had to go to the Rangers, but, yes, I guess I did lose some respect for him. I think most people held him in very high regard before that. His family tragedy has made me forget the trade.


I am a fan of Lundqvist. Why should I care that he's good looking and gets opportunities to do things many good looking athletes have done in all sports. I think Lundqvist is very hard to hate. I understand why people in NJ want to hate him due to dozens of Rangers fans anointing him 'King Henrik' and saying he is better than Brodeur. It's frustrating, but once you separate that it really has nothing to do with Lundqvist himself..whatever. And because of those annoying fans and who he plays for, rooting for him to fail and blow in the playoffs...sure, but that has nothing to do with having to hate him.


He always handles himself well, and made it a non issue when Brodeur has commented about him over the years. If you are annoyed by Rangers fans and the media, you better shut it all out if the Rangers do win the Cup. Lundqvist will be marketed heavily and become the face of the NHL.

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#1262305 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs thread

Posted by devilsrule33 on 24 April 2014 - 05:49 PM

I'm so sick of this Devils blowing leads crap. I say the Devils blow leads at a rate on par with the rest of the league. They probably came back from being down 2 goals as much as they blew 2 goals lead. They probably tied the game with an empty net as they got scored on with the other team pulling their goalie.


As people have noticed, no lead is safe in this league. Not for the Penguins. Not for the Blackhawks. Not for the Ducks or the Kings. Is this a coaching issue around the league. No. Just like it was and still isn't an issue with Deboer.


It's a different league. Most teams are even with each other. If one gets a two goal lead, it shouldn't be safe. You can't sit back and suffocate teams. Just be happy a team builds up a lead to give them a cushion. The 2012 Devils weren't some great team. Yes, they let Florida and the Rangers back after taking nice leads, but unless you are some powerhouse team (the Devils certainly weren't), these things are going to happen. It's just the nature of the beast. There isn't a right way or a wrong way to play with the lead. You are going to see opponents getting desperate when they fall behind. Can you ride out the wave or not.


Most of the times, the teams that don't blow leads are still feeling the heat, they just have goalies bailing them out for an extended period time.


This year, the Devils really played some great third periods with the lead. Sometimes sh!t happens, but I never saw the Devils have concerning issues with the lead.

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#1262091 Earnest Congratulations To The Devils

Posted by devilsrule33 on 22 April 2014 - 11:19 PM



Feeling pretty bummed about watching the playoffs so I wanted to look back at this. Great thread, and lots of great posts. This team had so much skill and so much heart. I don't feel hate for Kovy and Parise but appreciation for their efforts in this run. Damn, take me back.


Is this the NJDevs equivalent to a drunk text to an Ex?

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#1260921 Martin Brodeur Final (?) Game Thread

Posted by devilsrule33 on 13 April 2014 - 06:50 PM

I enjoyed seeing the players give Marty his moment. That was a nice touch. Whatever your thoughts are, without Brodeur there are no Jersey Devils. He is the man. Even in the twilight, he dug deep and outplayed Hank to get them there one final time. In a year they were viewed as an afterthought. Brodeur is one of those special athletes that comes around once in a lifetime. He is a living legend. If he doesn't want to go out the way Rivera and Jeter are, that's his choice. Even with his commentary, the man is one thing. A winner. Even I know. Marty's Better.


How difficult was it for YOU to write that? Very well said, Derek.


As happy as I am to see the torch passed to Cory (hopefully for more than one season), it was great to watch Brodeur with his distinct style one more time, today. The beautiful puck handling The skate save on the breakaway. The standing glove save. He played the position differently. I'll miss that next season.

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#1259573 In a Season of Problems, Brodeur was the Biggest

Posted by devilsrule33 on 08 April 2014 - 09:10 PM

Your hate for Marty has actually gotten so extreme that sadly, anyone who doesn't agree that Marty was the central reason for this team's downfall is now going to be labeled a 'Marty fanboy' by you. The truth is that there is a reasonable way to hold Marty accountable for his play this year and an illogical one with only speculation to provide why Marty was our ruining this year. It's all based on an 'if' and a useless 'if' IF that. It is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fitting that this team basically got eliminated on a night where Marty didn't even play and the team scored no goals.


At that point it's like "DR33 isn't seriously going to try and perpetuate his wild Marty accusations tonight is he?" And then, there you are! Ready to attack sans shame. Let's ignore everything else and stick to the "Marty has killed us" line.


Let me predict your response: It will be something along the lines of accusing me of thinking only the number of wins Marty has matter, accusing me of thinking Cory is equal to Marty, or telling me that I am satisfied with NJ not making the playoffs this year. 


See, the thing is, I don't devote myself to deep analytic hockey analysis. If you presented a valid and reasonable argument that could convince me of the notions that you are presenting, I might be obliged to get on board. But you haven't, you actually haven't convinced much of anyone. So, now the response is to call us 'fanboys', because we don't blindly accept your fervent Marty hatred.


1) I don't hate Marty. I didn't like hm playing. I didn't like him talking to the media constantly, especially before he starts a game with huge playoff implications talking about next season and where his kids want him to play. Let me ask you this: Do you think any coach, anyone in management and most importantly his teammates appreciated Marty talking about the possibility of playing somewhere else a day before a big hockey game? I bet everyone would be a little annoyed or disappointed.


2) In a 5-page thread, you immediately jump to me...even though I never made any crazy claim that Marty is the sole reason the Devils missed the playoffs or the main reason.


3) I'm done explaining anything to you. You don't need any analytic hockey analysis to see why Schneider is better than Brodeur. You know Cory is better so what do you want me to convince you of? Why are you replying to me? I didn't start the thread.


4) You say it is fitting that the Devils got eliminated 1-0 with Cory in net? I mean in a way it is. But not anymore fitting than them losing 5-4 with Brodeur in net. Or Brodeur getting a win after letting in 3 goals on 9 shots, and Schneider coming in, posting a scoreless game, and Marty getting the win.

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#1258388 2013-14 OOT Thread

Posted by devilsrule33 on 03 April 2014 - 08:14 PM

i dont think it really matters who wins these other games nj is not going to do enough to help themselves anyway.


Exactly, plus Philly is playing a fine game. 30 shots on BOBROVSKY! with 10 minutes to play. Boston is on a 2nd game of a back-to-back playing their backup.

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#1256871 Brodeur vs Avery: The Feud continues

Posted by devilsrule33 on 29 March 2014 - 03:01 PM

All this talk about Brodeur vs Lundqvist is pointless for this argument. 


Marty Brodeur has a giant blemish on his entire resume with this public divorce. I'm not worrying about it, judging him or defending him for it. Although, I imagine if it was other way around, Devils fans as a whole might have a field day with it.


Anyway, when Marty starts talking about other people, he has to know that's always something someone has to throw back at him. Very few people will tough such a subject, but Avery is definitely that person. Brodeur's comments were a little unnecessary. If he didn't watch, why bother commenting too, and the contestants to receive a sizable amount of money for their charity. So with that component of it, forget about talking about him. 


Avery fired back in the only way he can and was vague about it enough that the hockey world could wonder if it was the sister-in-law or nanny, both, or were they the same people. No winners here. Everyone thinks Avery is a classless douchebag, and everyone is reminded about his transgressions. 

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#1255531 2013-2014 Lineup/Roster Thread

Posted by devilsrule33 on 23 March 2014 - 11:37 PM

I agree - just like after Schneider stole a game in LA, he alternated which ass cheek he would favor on the bench while Brodeur got 3 straight.


This is why people that talk about wins and losses being the reason Brodeur got more games don't understand why some people are still furious with the goalie situation. There have clearly been different rules for both goalies all season.


Schneider plays the best game a goalie has played all year to that point and still to this date against the Kings. The Devils escape with a win in a game they had no business winning. Two nights later Brodeur gets a game, and they lose. He gets the next game, and they lose. He gets the game after and they lose. Schneider finally gets another game 8 days later after the LA gem, and wins. He responds by shutting out the Sabres the next game. Of course Brodeur gets his Montreal home game after that.


It was somewhere during that time that Schneider showed his frustration, and he had every right to be. Deboer said he would be disappointed if he wasn't upset, but it made no sense that Cory wasn't given a game sooner.


If Brodeur does get the next game, well then this is why Tri says "You're also fine with missing the playoffs, as apparently the entire Devils organization is" or as Sundstrom says, "different strokes for different folks". Because it will be very clear that this season was about making sure Brodeur was never going to be the backup and getting him as many games as possible regardless of who is better.

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#1253922 GDT: Bruins @Devils 18th March 2014

Posted by devilsrule33 on 18 March 2014 - 10:09 PM

No one likes losing, and I am sure for most here this is uncharted waters for Devils fans, but there doesn't need to be one scapegoat. You want Deboer gone...fine. There is a good chance he is, but this really has not much to do with him.


This team is just not very good at all. Fans have been clamoring for Gelinas. Well you got him, and once again he showed, despite the offensive boost he could bring, he can't play a lick of defense. Not a lick. I think two goals were on him. People want to get upset that you Gelinas and Merrill were on the ice together late....again it's late, you are down 4-2. You fvcking roll the dice. This wasn't a tie game late. They were down two goals. You want Gelinas to be out there with Salvador? I feel that some people will find anything to blame Pete with. You dress him. You play him when you are down, and you do it with someone that can move the puck too. Wasn't everyone loving the Gelinas-Larsson tandem months ago?


Zubrus is finished. Rutuu is who we thought he was. Ryder is just awful. Brunner is struggling. Clowe is Clowe. Elias is 37. Brunner is slumping again. You rely on Jagr at 42 to be the offensive catalyst every night..with the linemates he gets to play with?


A new coach will not save this team. A new coach trying to get these players to play any differently than say...they have for most of the year...will only be a bigger recipe for trouble. This team will most likely struggle with any coach next season. Forget about the coach, and look at this lineup. Do you think a coach is missing the link?


What this team needed tonight was a Zach Parise. They needed an lya Kovalchuk. And they needed a David Clarkson tonight.


There are a lot of bubble teams around the league. The ones that are stepping up are the better teams that have had better goaltending and better star players to lead them each night. Not ones that have a coach that motivates them more. You want a coach that goes in and just screams and yells at a team that isn't good enough to win games. Well that was probably Deboer in Florida. You'll have a team quitting on a coach much faster that way. NHL players tune those coaches out.

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#1253517 Marty says Devils were "pretty close" to signing Parise... and

Posted by devilsrule33 on 18 March 2014 - 10:38 AM




Lamoriello said he would now implement Plan B, but wouldn't reveal what that might be as far as signing a free agent or making a trade.


Lou didn't mean plan B as his second option, he meant plan B as plan Butler, Bobby Butler.

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#1252977 Of all the times Lou has curiously fired coaches out of the blue

Posted by devilsrule33 on 14 March 2014 - 11:21 PM

Lou not making a move is perhaps a tacit admission he knows this team is **** even though he'll never admit it.  I really do wonder how Lou can let things happen like Larsson languishing in the minors though...that's even worse than the coaching bs.  Larsson and Gelinas were terrific together in November, the team won five of six.  And now Gelinas is in and out of the doghouse while Larsson's stuck in Albany for the rest of the season cause we keep stockpiling slow, mediocre defensemen.


Well they weren't an incredible team to begin with (the 2012 run was a fairly tale run), but you lose Parise, Kovalchuk and Clarkson and don't have a single player in your system to come up. You have to rely on B and C level free agents.


They overpay and sign for too long their own free agents. He created an absolute mess on defense he could not get out of. Salvador was obviously an atrocious deal. Zubrus looks done, and he is only on year 1 of a 3-year deal.


The drafting and development, once the crown jewel of the NHL, has completely gone stale. There have been way too many misses.


And with all that, they are a few fluke shootout losses out of the playoffs. I am not worried about Deboer. They don't need a Stevens. No one knows what goes on when the locker room door is shut. Coaches that yell and cream and embarrass their players publicly are not the answer. 


You fire a coach when you think you really have something. You fire a coach midseason and nothing changes...well only one more change to make.

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#1252974 Of all the times Lou has curiously fired coaches out of the blue

Posted by devilsrule33 on 14 March 2014 - 11:08 PM

There is no Brodeur in his prime. No HOF defensemen in Stevens and Niedermayer. No Rafalski. No A-line to wonder WTF is happening with this team.


If Lou fired Deboer, he should just fire himself. His coaching change worked once with Robinson.


It always amazes me that people will sh!t on the players and sh!t on the coach, but no one even questions the GM much.

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#1252117 GDT: Devils @ Phailures 7:00 PM

Posted by devilsrule33 on 11 March 2014 - 11:10 PM

It's easy to dismiss everything as a fluke.  For two years I've been hearing the Leafs are a fluke cause of their advanced stats, and yet they keep winning.  Last year and most of this year I heard the Devils' lack of goalscoring was a fluke.  What's the statute of limitations on whether it's a fluke...40 games, 60?  100?  Or is it just a fluke indefinitely?


Well how about this...Brodeur has been awful for 3 and a half seasons. The Devils have been in a playoff spot for 10% of that time. The winning with him is a fluke.


The thing about the Leafs...it helps when you have one of the best goalies in the NHL this season in Bernier.

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