Rock and Roll Part 2 was great until morons ruined it with the 'You suck!' chant. NHL Network showed the 2003 Cup Finals Game 7 recently and I was surprised to not hear anything after Hey! when Rupp scored. I know no song will compare but hopefully whatever they come up with can't have 'You suck!' easily appended to it.
Celebrating a gigantic goal without "You Suck" at the end? I don't understand.
I'm in the same boat as you. The chant is ridiculous.I'm all for the crowd chanting in unison It turns celebrating a positive into a negative.
It diminishes anything the Devils do because apparently when they score it only happens against a team that sucks. It doesn't matter if they advance to the Finals, or barely stay alive in Game 6 of the 1st round, or score the 1st goal in game 5 of the Cup Finals but find themselves down 3-1 in the series still. It doesn't matter if they are playing the best team in the league losing 4-1 or the worst team down 4-1. The first thing the crowd chants is that the other team sucks. And if the Devils happen to be beating on some random team, say 5-1, what's the point of chanting 'You Suck" at them with such glee.
Going back to what Tri said, here is one of the great goals in Devils history. The insurance goal against the Ducks. Does anyone hear this great moment and go "Man, the Devils are about to win the Cup, what an incredible moment, but I really wish the crowd was telling the the Ducks players how much they suck."
sh!t - i knew i forgot someone. he's what really makes it dicey because keeping him puts josefson at risk which is disgusting. i mean, i hope the team rightfully decides there's no place for barch and just dumps him but that is not happening. he's the only guy that will fight if they need it. sure bernier can do it and sal will if he has to but should absolutely not so that leaves...nobody. barch is making the team.
again - this all assumes brunner gets a contract. while i think that's a fait acompli, not everyone agrees.
It's just unfortunate because the Devils have the ability to run out the most complete 4 lines of forwards in 13 years, and we know it probably won't happen. They also have the ability to start a top 5 goalie in the NHL 60 times, and barring injury, that might not happen either.
At least Josefson got a chance to play with really good players tonight, and he did not disappoint.
I really feel bad for anyone that needs to fight 3 times in the sport of hockey to show why he should make the team. It's so ridiculous. And apparently it worked because Barch was perhaps the only "positive" according to Pete.
Tallinder has every right to be upset. He rarely, if ever, deserved to be the odd-man out in a crowded defense.
The article's title is over the top. I wouldn't call that lashing out. Just a player being pretty open that he felt his relationship with Deboer was a problem. Tallinder is a good enough defenseman to be playing on any team in the league. When you carry 8 NHL caliber defenseman for a full season and don't play the best 6 on merit, there is going to be issues.
I have to admit, I was dead set against this as didn't think Jagr would take less than $4 million base contract and it would preclude us from signing anyone else. I was hoping no Jagr would allow some of the kids to get a chance to step-up. But at $2 million, plus, it's actually a nice situation. If anyone can revive Jagr, its Elias and we still have some cushion moving forward. Never doubt the powers of Lou.
"If anyone can revive Jagr, it's Elias" What? I think Elias and Jagr could work, but Jagr doesn't need Elias' help for a revival. He has been a fantastic player for the past two seasons in the NHL. The guy has 89 points in his last 118 regular season games at the age of 39 and 40. That is historically insane.
I think Jagr could help Elias as much as Elias could help Jagr.
Not to totally derail this thread, but until the schedules gets announced: Parise will get it. Langenbrunner will get it if he signs with the Wild. Holik got it. Niedermayer got it. Kovalchuk won't ever be in the USA to get a lashing from Devils fans. I get the frustration and anger, but it be great if we could cheer half as hard as we boo for ex-Devils when they come to town.
It's not like the Devils honoured past players like Madden, Gionta, Pandolfo, or Rafalski when they came back to town. 4 key contributors in a bunch of Cups (Gionta is a stretch in 03), and all 4 left because the Devils no longer wanted them or thought they weren't worth as much as the market said. That's the business. We get on athletes for being selfish or choosing what is best for themselves, but when the team chooses what's best for themselves, we don't even think twice. We barely even acknowledge their contributions.
In game 1, is anyone going to give Zidlicky a standing ovation for passing on multi-year offers to stay with Devilsf for 1. Of course not. It seems silly to even suggest. If we are going to boo Parise or anyone else, doesn't Elias deserve a gigantic standing ovation and chants of "Patty Patty" or "Thank You Patty" during the first game for staying as a lifelong Devil? Shouldn't there be signs for him as well. Because there will be signs for Zach for that first game. And there will be negative chants as well. I'd like to think the positive of Elias staying should outweigh the negativity of Parise leaving.
Not saying this is exclusive to this fanbase. This is how it goes in sports in general. That's why I'll never get on an athlete for going anywhere they want or taking any amount of money they want. Be selfish, because it doesn't matter how many discount deals or unselfish decisions you make. The moment you lose your value, or make too much money or can't produce, the team and the fans will turn on you.
Edit: And I see some more comments about Zach secretly planning this exit or telling people he'd stay. As we know everyone got him for that, but no one cares when the team doesn't hold up their end of the bargain to the player. Don't hear about fans leaving their favourite team because they backstabbed a player and following the player to a new team. If you know it is a business, treat it like it is a business for both the player and the team.
Kovy was a do it himself type of player, so I don't put much stock in last season Elias is such a great teacher, and has the best hockey IQ in the world, he would immediately help Matteau be in the best position to succeed. Elias helped Sykora get back into being a goal scorer a few years ago. I would hope that Matteau gets to learn from playing with Patty how to play the game correctly.
1) Kovalchuk's biggest fault while he was here was that he was too unselfish and didn't shoot the puck more often.
2) The Devils lost 10 in a row without Kovalchuk.
3) The great Patrik Elias had 1 goal and 1 assist when Kovalchuk was out of the lineup.
4) Matteau played as well as he could in his short stint as an 18-year old in the NHL. It wasn't going to be much different who he played with.
5) Stop trolling. We got enough Kovy BS for years. Of course the year he was 5th in scoring and leading the Devils to the Cup Finals, you were absent.
I was responding to the poster suggesting that he left because Clarkson and parise left.
On the second part, we've heard everything from 11-20 million a season. Either way, after taxes it's more than he'd get here. I think he realized he wanted less games at more money in a place where he'll be worshipped.
I don't get the worshipped part? Kovy seems like a very low-key guy. The opposite of say Alexander Ovechkin.