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Posted by devilsrule33 on 08 July 2013 - 01:02 PM
Was really hoping this was a bumped thread. Alas...
Posted by devilsrule33 on 29 June 2013 - 07:03 PM
Great Devil. Brutal last year and a bit for him in NJ, but did a lot of good things for many years that should never be forgotten. Was a huge contributor to the 2003 Cup team.
Posted by devilsrule33 on 08 June 2013 - 11:20 PM
Hell of a game!! And why any Devils fan was rooting for LA is beyond me. With that said, hats off to the Hawks. Well done.
I don't get why any fan dislikes LA. If you are tired of them sure, but THEM beating the Devils in the finals was irrelevant to me. Only thing that mattered was the Devils losing. Besides, there wasn't one bit of hostility between the teams or the fans during the finals. It was pretty ho-hum. I respected LA for taking care of business.
I'm happy the Blackhawks won, but it has nothing to do with the 2012 Finals.
Posted by devilsrule33 on 25 April 2013 - 11:06 AM
There haven’t been many times in franchise history where going into a game, you knew this could be a Devils player’s final home game, and there wasn’t something bigger at stake like trying to keep the season alive. Well tonight, there isn’t much to play for and it very well could be Patrik Elias’ last home game as a Devil. Hopefully it won’t be (and I don’t think it will be), but if it gets to July 1st, there might be some offers that blow him and the Devils away.
Patty has always been an underrated quiet star around the league and even on this team. But in the end, he owns pretty much every offensive record on this team, he’s led the team in scoring 7 times and been part of 2 Stanley Cup winning teams and 2 other Cup finalists. He continues to chug along quietly…playing great two way hockey. When the Devils brought Kovalchuk in, it was Elias leading the team in scoring during that first full-year. When Kovy was getting all the accolades with the team and around the league last season, it was Elias there right behind him and 10th in league scoring. Elias is a guy who has taken a back seat to players here be it Kovy or Parise, but he’s always right there.
There haven’t been many individual nights for him either. When he broke John MacLean’s franchise points’ record, it was unfortunately overshadowed on the same night by Martin Brodeur becoming the winningest goalie in NHL history. When he broke the franchise goal record, it happened on the road and most of his teammates had no clue about it at all. He’s often been disrespected by his own coaches nonetheless. He never had the best relationship with Pat Burns for some reason and the Brent Sutter situation was a black eye for the franchise in my opinion. Sutter, having never coached in the NHL, stripped the captaincy away from a veteran and gave it to a player that wasn’t even with the team throughout training camp and the beginning of the season. It seems like he is finally back with a coach that truly respects Elias for the leader he is and the incredible hockey player he is.
Tonight, hopefully, Devils fans can vocally do the same. If you are going to the game or know someone who is, or know of anyone to spread the word to, let’s give Elias the proper due he deserves and remind him how much he means to the franchise and the fans. Let’s get some chants going throughout the night to honour the greatest Devils forward of all-time. Maybe we can get something going to other forums or through social media. He’s a quiet unassuming guy, but I am sure it would mean the world to him as well. He certainly deserves it, regardless if it his last game or not.
Posted by devilsrule33 on 26 July 2012 - 02:38 PM
Posted by devilsrule33 on 23 July 2012 - 11:11 PM
Patrik Elias is worth more then the qualifying offer, if he were smart he would go to arbitration take the one year deal and try his luck as a UFA. Gives him more options.
Amazingly, even with Elias' uncertainty, word was that Lou and Patty were trying to bang out a long-term deal. But in the end, it was not to be, and Elias accepted the 1-year qualifying offer. The thread that followed wasn't much different than the one where Parise and the Devils could only reach a 1-year deal in the summer of 2011. For many, this seemed all too familiar to a year prior when Lou and Niedermayer were unable to reach a deal on a long-term contract, instead settling on a 1-year deal decided by an arbitrator. With Niedermayer's departure barely a few weeks old, it was understandable for any Devils fan to be worried. But many stayed positive given the circumstances that the team and player were dealing with.
i think that given his health issues, that might be risky. look at a guy like allison who had to sign for $1.5.
i could see lou sign him to a 3 year, $4.5M/year deal now, where he's manageable and this way, is elias doesn't return to form due to hep a, he's set financially.
I'm not getting the best feeling either. I does make sense now for both sides to not do a long-term deal until Patty's health issues are squared away. The Devils won't want to be tied down to a big money long-term deal if he never really comes back from the illness, and the agent has to know he wouldn't get the full value of a healthy Elias if they were to strike a deal now. Waiting is better for both sides.
Hopefully, when they say they will re-open negotiations as soon as they are allowed, they both mean it and really want to work out a long-term deal before the end of the season.
I don't get all the negativity about Elias staying, just because he didn't sign a long-term deal right this minute that automatically means he's moving on? Like someone pointed out it's really best for both sides to wait, and Elias hasn't given any indication that he's unhappy here (and in fact said he liked that the Devils were willing to talk contract with him under his condition) so I wouldn't automatically assume the worst.
Lou is going to make sure Elias completely recovers from the illness before signing him long term. That's why he qualified him so early to give that message to Elias that he wants him apart of his team for atleast this year but Lou can't predict the future (however he IS God so ya never know) so why waste all that money before you know he can or can't fully recover from his illness?
Elias was very pleased with Lou's early qualifying offer and him and Lou have never bashed heads. I'm not worried.
I think it's a smart move. I mean, c'mon people, it's not like he's getting over the flu. Regardless of A or C, hepatitus is very serious and who knows if his ability will be affected when he comes back. It's not like it was signed out of animosity. It's a smart move because I would much rather the organization be able to cut their losses after 1 season if Elias comes back and isnt effective.
If he is able to play the way he's used to playing, they'll re-negotiate and he'll be back next season. Instead of being so pessimistic, let's have a bit of optimism.
According to TSN.CA, TB gave Brad Richards a 5 year, $39MM deal that pays him $7.8/year. Of course this is ridiculous, but it just put Elias' number right at $8MM and gomez well over $5MM.
It only takes one guy to wreck the whole thing and Jay Feaster just did it.
If Feaster has a job in two years, i'll eat my hat. he has killed TB's future unless they deal St. Louis or Lecavailler.
Chara, Redden, Lidstrom, and Elias have all started their new number at $8MM as they're all better than Richards and they're all more important to their own teams (or any other).
What's worse is that it makes a guy like gomez or marc savard think he's worth $6-6.5 instead of $4.5-5.
unfortunately, feaster isn't the only dummy out there.
Feaster says F-U to the entire league with this deal. Betteman must want him dead.
The salary cap should and probably will prevent stuff like this but it'll take a few offseasons for some people to realize the mistakes they're making.
I don't think this ruins the rest of the market - here's why:
1. Brad Richards is only 26. Patrik Elias is 30. Big difference. Tampa Bay will be getting these five years in his absolute prime.
2. Brad Richards has a Conn Smythe Trophy. This raises his price by a significant portion - just ask anyone who's won one over the last 10 years. Players who win a Conn Smythe are overpaid by at least 10% generally.
Here's why it does:
Brad Richards' first year can be used in arbitration because he was not yet a UFA. Something has to be done about this - the Leafs did the same thing with Mats Sundin. Players often get this year at a higher salary so that they give up some UFA years.
One thing that Tampa did not do was let the market set a price for Richards. I think he would've gotten in the high 6s.
Remember, the salary cap still dictates market price more than comparable salaries.
Posted by devilsrule33 on 20 July 2012 - 10:43 AM
Posted by devilsrule33 on 17 July 2012 - 11:22 PM
As we all know hockey players never get respect from people. We all watch a ton of NHL games and we take for granted the sacrifices these players make. Here is an article about Ian Laperriere and the day he blocked a shot with his eye vs the Devils in game 5 of 2010. Ignore the flyers portion of the article.
On blocking the shot
Posted by devilsrule33 on 12 July 2012 - 11:06 AM
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Posted by devilsrule33 on 03 July 2012 - 11:20 PM
Zach Parise tells @joshrimerhockey that he's talked to Lou Lamoriello two, three, sometimes four times a day throughout process
Posted by devilsrule33 on 02 July 2012 - 05:40 PM
Posted by devilsrule33 on 23 June 2012 - 07:00 PM
Why is it laughable? What's the explanation?
I've yet to hear one other than the validity of the call or non-call?
Just tell me where the offense from the back end is coming from other than Zidlicky?
As for Greene, I haven't typed his name in over a year - but why argue logic when you can simply - roll out the NJDEVs bias history right?
I don't think we have anything we need to get Yandle done - but I also wouldn't have believe the Michalek or JVR trade returns the past few days either.
I'd start the conversation with Zubrus/Tedenby/Josefson... (which won't get it done).
Posted by devilsrule33 on 14 June 2012 - 11:39 PM
I think we're seeing Lou finally...finally...get what so many of us wanted over the years. To change the old guard, the coach killers, etc. It's just Brodeur and Elias...that's it. Even if Lou wanted to get rid of Elias (not seeing he wants to or ever would just it's almost impossible). Two players with rings. That might scare people, but I for one welcome our new inexperienced overlords. Clearly it wasn't working, and you can't be unhappy about Larry, Lou, Julien, Lou, Sutter, Lemaire, MacLean, Lemaire, Deboer, and then be unhappy with these moves. It took Lou long enough, but past success and loyalty turned into a combination of self-entitlement, groupthink, and then the disease of me.
Maybe it took Lou to see Claude Julien take an inexperienced Bruins team to the Cup finals to say maybe it was them and not the damn coach. It finally took Lou a few years to forget about the past and do what's right for this team to succeed moving forward. Follow the NFL route where veterans (no matter how successful in the past) are cut at the right time, which is as soon as they start to decline, or sometimes right before.
And maybe, I was guilty of this last year, but am finally seeing it a lot more clearer. A guy like Rolston might be the nicest guy in the locker room, and a guy like Jamie might be a great guy for the younger guys like Zach and Travis, but that doesn't mean that they deserve what they want, and it doesn't mean they can act the way they do. When you become a Devil, respecting the history, the crest on the front and not the name on the back, the team values, and so on is what you are taught and what you should follow. Guys like Pandolfo, Rolston, White, Langenbrunner, Arnott, Madden, even Elias are the players you respect. They are the veterans, the warriors, the champions But the reality is they were not acting like leaders. The last few years has not always been a good environment for younger players. And it probably was a partial reason why this team has gone in prolong slumps. Younger players were probably taking the wrong cues from veteran players.
As corny as it sounds, the past is almost finished being wiped away. It's time for a new beginning, a new generation and new leaders. This is an exciting time. There will be growing pains, and there will be bumps. But these bumps will be much better than the ones of the past 6 years. Because Lou and the Devils are doing it the right way.