I really feel bad for anyone that needs to fight 3 times in the sport of hockey to show why he should make the team. It's so ridiculous. And apparently it worked because Barch was perhaps the only "positive" according to Pete.
Tallinder has every right to be upset. He rarely, if ever, deserved to be the odd-man out in a crowded defense.
The article's title is over the top. I wouldn't call that lashing out. Just a player being pretty open that he felt his relationship with Deboer was a problem. Tallinder is a good enough defenseman to be playing on any team in the league. When you carry 8 NHL caliber defenseman for a full season and don't play the best 6 on merit, there is going to be issues.
I have to admit, I was dead set against this as didn't think Jagr would take less than $4 million base contract and it would preclude us from signing anyone else. I was hoping no Jagr would allow some of the kids to get a chance to step-up. But at $2 million, plus, it's actually a nice situation. If anyone can revive Jagr, its Elias and we still have some cushion moving forward. Never doubt the powers of Lou.
"If anyone can revive Jagr, it's Elias" What? I think Elias and Jagr could work, but Jagr doesn't need Elias' help for a revival. He has been a fantastic player for the past two seasons in the NHL. The guy has 89 points in his last 118 regular season games at the age of 39 and 40. That is historically insane.
I think Jagr could help Elias as much as Elias could help Jagr.
Not to totally derail this thread, but until the schedules gets announced: Parise will get it. Langenbrunner will get it if he signs with the Wild. Holik got it. Niedermayer got it. Kovalchuk won't ever be in the USA to get a lashing from Devils fans. I get the frustration and anger, but it be great if we could cheer half as hard as we boo for ex-Devils when they come to town.
It's not like the Devils honoured past players like Madden, Gionta, Pandolfo, or Rafalski when they came back to town. 4 key contributors in a bunch of Cups (Gionta is a stretch in 03), and all 4 left because the Devils no longer wanted them or thought they weren't worth as much as the market said. That's the business. We get on athletes for being selfish or choosing what is best for themselves, but when the team chooses what's best for themselves, we don't even think twice. We barely even acknowledge their contributions.
In game 1, is anyone going to give Zidlicky a standing ovation for passing on multi-year offers to stay with Devilsf for 1. Of course not. It seems silly to even suggest. If we are going to boo Parise or anyone else, doesn't Elias deserve a gigantic standing ovation and chants of "Patty Patty" or "Thank You Patty" during the first game for staying as a lifelong Devil? Shouldn't there be signs for him as well. Because there will be signs for Zach for that first game. And there will be negative chants as well. I'd like to think the positive of Elias staying should outweigh the negativity of Parise leaving.
Not saying this is exclusive to this fanbase. This is how it goes in sports in general. That's why I'll never get on an athlete for going anywhere they want or taking any amount of money they want. Be selfish, because it doesn't matter how many discount deals or unselfish decisions you make. The moment you lose your value, or make too much money or can't produce, the team and the fans will turn on you.
Edit: And I see some more comments about Zach secretly planning this exit or telling people he'd stay. As we know everyone got him for that, but no one cares when the team doesn't hold up their end of the bargain to the player. Don't hear about fans leaving their favourite team because they backstabbed a player and following the player to a new team. If you know it is a business, treat it like it is a business for both the player and the team.
Kovy was a do it himself type of player, so I don't put much stock in last season Elias is such a great teacher, and has the best hockey IQ in the world, he would immediately help Matteau be in the best position to succeed. Elias helped Sykora get back into being a goal scorer a few years ago. I would hope that Matteau gets to learn from playing with Patty how to play the game correctly.
1) Kovalchuk's biggest fault while he was here was that he was too unselfish and didn't shoot the puck more often.
2) The Devils lost 10 in a row without Kovalchuk.
3) The great Patrik Elias had 1 goal and 1 assist when Kovalchuk was out of the lineup.
4) Matteau played as well as he could in his short stint as an 18-year old in the NHL. It wasn't going to be much different who he played with.
5) Stop trolling. We got enough Kovy BS for years. Of course the year he was 5th in scoring and leading the Devils to the Cup Finals, you were absent.
I was responding to the poster suggesting that he left because Clarkson and parise left.
On the second part, we've heard everything from 11-20 million a season. Either way, after taxes it's more than he'd get here. I think he realized he wanted less games at more money in a place where he'll be worshipped.
I don't get the worshipped part? Kovy seems like a very low-key guy. The opposite of say Alexander Ovechkin.
Hell of a game!! And why any Devils fan was rooting for LA is beyond me. With that said, hats off to the Hawks. Well done.
I don't get why any fan dislikes LA. If you are tired of them sure, but THEM beating the Devils in the finals was irrelevant to me. Only thing that mattered was the Devils losing. Besides, there wasn't one bit of hostility between the teams or the fans during the finals. It was pretty ho-hum. I respected LA for taking care of business.
I'm happy the Blackhawks won, but it has nothing to do with the 2012 Finals.
There haven’t been many times in franchise history where going into a game, you knew this could be a Devils player’s final home game, and there wasn’t something bigger at stake like trying to keep the season alive. Well tonight, there isn’t much to play for and it very well could be Patrik Elias’ last home game as a Devil. Hopefully it won’t be (and I don’t think it will be), but if it gets to July 1st, there might be some offers that blow him and the Devils away.
Patty has always been an underrated quiet star around the league and even on this team. But in the end, he owns pretty much every offensive record on this team, he’s led the team in scoring 7 times and been part of 2 Stanley Cup winning teams and 2 other Cup finalists. He continues to chug along quietly…playing great two way hockey. When the Devils brought Kovalchuk in, it was Elias leading the team in scoring during that first full-year. When Kovy was getting all the accolades with the team and around the league last season, it was Elias there right behind him and 10th in league scoring. Elias is a guy who has taken a back seat to players here be it Kovy or Parise, but he’s always right there.
There haven’t been many individual nights for him either. When he broke John MacLean’s franchise points’ record, it was unfortunately overshadowed on the same night by Martin Brodeur becoming the winningest goalie in NHL history. When he broke the franchise goal record, it happened on the road and most of his teammates had no clue about it at all. He’s often been disrespected by his own coaches nonetheless. He never had the best relationship with Pat Burns for some reason and the Brent Sutter situation was a black eye for the franchise in my opinion. Sutter, having never coached in the NHL, stripped the captaincy away from a veteran and gave it to a player that wasn’t even with the team throughout training camp and the beginning of the season. It seems like he is finally back with a coach that truly respects Elias for the leader he is and the incredible hockey player he is.
Tonight, hopefully, Devils fans can vocally do the same. If you are going to the game or know someone who is, or know of anyone to spread the word to, let’s give Elias the proper due he deserves and remind him how much he means to the franchise and the fans. Let’s get some chants going throughout the night to honour the greatest Devils forward of all-time. Maybe we can get something going to other forums or through social media. He’s a quiet unassuming guy, but I am sure it would mean the world to him as well. He certainly deserves it, regardless if it his last game or not.