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In Topic: Lou Lamoriello will remain GM even if team misses playoffs -Chere

Today, 12:53 AM

Same. He's done too much for the organization to not give him another chance. And we know he wouldn't want to leave the team with the current state it's in. When he does go, it will either be because he's in the ground or he has the team set up well for the future.


Let me preface this by saying I am, and always will be, grateful for everything that LL has done for this franchise. But his history with the devils is becoming an increasingly poor argument for keeping him. It's almost starting to starting to resemble MB's retirement debacle. LL has been here for a quarter of a century for this team has been clearly declining in many respects for a decade. Now think about that... that's 40% of his entire tenure has been a long, slow, painful decline punctuated by a really nice but totally aberrant SC run. In that time the scouting, drafting, and talent development have fallen to shambles. LL did a lot for this franchise, but it's over. For whatever reason he simply does not have "it" any longer. It happens to everyone eventually and this franchise has given him WAY more leeway in this regard than almost any other franchise would in any other situation. Can anyone else imagine another GM underperforming this badly and this long and still being allowed to keep his job?

In Topic: Should Schneider be traded?

27 February 2015 - 02:43 PM

No issue wih considering it, but realistically it would never and should never happen..The prime reason being IMO goaltenders' trade value is much less than what their on ice value is.
I would imagine we could probably get a first in the 8-15 range (figure teams like minny, Calgary, Philly) + prospect for Cory and he is worth much more than that to us. I mean sure if someone offered a top 5 pick + elite prospects you listen but that would never happen.
Plus, as has been proven time and again, an elite goaltender can be the difference between a playoff bubble team and a Stanley cup champ.

This isn't so much directed at you Dman, but at the idea in general that goalies wouldn't get as much in return. I've seen this reiterated throughout this thread. I'm not saying this is or isn't true, but I find it illogical.

The argument seems to be this:
1. that goalies are the MOST important part of the puzzle in assembling a winning hockey team.
2. That CS is an elite player at the most important position in assembling a winning hockey team.
3. And players at the most important position don't get much in return, even when they are elite.

I find this difficult to swallow. We gave up a high first rounder for an unproven CS. We've proven him now and his value will be high for a win-now team. But his ability to play at an 'elite' level over the longhaul is still, IMHO, in doubt. Moreover, he is still completely unproven in the playoffs.

I get that most teams don't trade their goalies precisely because they are difficult to find, but if you all think back, the devils system produced a bunch of goaltenders in the '80s and we were able to parlay some of them into more and deeper talent for the team precisely because goalies bring value. --What I'm proposing is that we don't repeat the error of Sean Burke.-- Had we traded him earlier we'd have walked away with a mother lode. Instead we got a much more modest (though still impressive) return.

In Topic: Clarkson to Jackets for Nathan Horton

27 February 2015 - 02:41 AM

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He's going.....

In Topic: Should Schneider be traded?

26 February 2015 - 06:15 PM

Its just that we had this discussion already. Everybody flamed that guy too. Even then, when cory was playing average. now hes puting up vezina numbers and a new one comes around. you did it to yourself Its just that we had this discussion already. Everybody flamed that guy too. Even then, when cory was playing average. now hes puting up vezina numbers and a new one comes around. you did it to yourself Its just that we had this discussion already. Everybody flamed that guy too. Even then, when cory was playing average. now hes puting up vezina numbers and a new one comes around. you did it to yourself


But you're missing the point: you buy low and sell high! When CS wasn't playing well the return would've been mediocre for a goalie we all know is good. Right now we might be able to get a VERY nice return for a goalie who is while very good, horribly overrated by devils fans. He hasn't won anything people. So many of your are starting to sound like Rags fan fawning over the Queen.

BTW, having an amazing goalie and a shallow, talentless team gets you what?


THE BUFFALO SABRES!

Now I'm sure someone is going to tell me that CS is better than Hasek, but Hasek didn't win a damn thing until he played on a team with depth.....

In Topic: Should Schneider be traded?

26 February 2015 - 05:57 PM

Funny, I expected the flaming and verbal abuse but this is ridiculous. Five years ago when I predicted that Lou was done and hurting the franchise people acted the same way. Don't believe me? Look it up. I posted a poll just like this one.

I think it is sad that people cannot have a mature discussion here. Moreover, I think we will regret not trading him. I'll put it down in writing: the Devils aren't going to win anything with CS because the team simply doesn't have the assets to do it before he fades. We will never develop a SC winning set of forwards and finish fleshing out the Def (as well as give them experience) and have enough depth at these positions in the next year or two.... And probably not three. Even if we hit home runs with almost EVERY draft pick this year the players would take 2-3 years to develop!

Consider this: how much talent, more or less, does this team have than the Devs of the late '80s? That team still took half a decade to mature. What level of play will CS be at in half a decade?