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In Topic: Is tanking the right move?

18 December 2014 - 04:58 PM

Tanking is just different here. What is the definition of tanking?

 

Lou tried to put together a solid squad this season and everything blew up. Is that tanking?

 

The players are trying to win, Pete is icing the best line up he can every night. Is that tanking?

 

Tanking is a concept that really doesn't happen. 

 

Now if we want to trade our pieces at the deadline (or a little before it) and gets some value back for Free Agents - that's not tanking either. That's prepping for the future.

 

Tell that to the Sixers that are intentionally putting up the worst possible team with the intention of losing.

 

It can and does happen, but that's not what the Devils are doing.

 

If, in the next month, they deal zidlicky, ryder, jagr, and gomez and are just putting any albany guy they can find, that would be tanking.

In Topic: We aren't getting McDavid or Eichel, it's time to realize this

18 December 2014 - 04:54 PM

What if they finish last get the 1st pick when all said and done, do you entertain trading it to the 2ND draft position team and reap 1 of the 2 best players and get whatever that team is willing to do to make that happen?

I like Eichel.

 

no. mcdavid is a true generational talent. eichel is supposed to be very, very good but mcdavid is another sidney crosby.

In Topic: 'He Makes Other Players Better'

17 December 2014 - 02:18 PM


 

He said players have little or no contact with the front office. There is no frustration with the coach but the team has turned very negative. He said DeBoer is super smart and approachable. (I won't repeat what I said about Sutter and he agreed)

With that being said, he said there needs to be a fresh start... trades, coach, etc.. all in play

 

Bolded is absolutely something that was always alluded to. "Lou is the mafia. You never talk to him."

 

As for Elias' dislike of Sutter - well we all knew that. And Elias was right to be upset at him the way he was treated vis a vis taking away the C from him.

 

I know this wasn't the original point of the thread but it's worth continuing the conversation. This isn't a "bash Lou" comment - but I do think that a fresh attitude from the GM - one of some inclusion might be a welcome change. Maybe I'm naive, but get the sense that other GM's are more present with their players. Then again, it's possible it's an age thing.

In Topic: GDT: Devs @ Isles: Swan Song for Nassau 7 pm

16 December 2014 - 05:37 PM

zids consistently scores in practice in the shootouts. it's been documented often. now, he was going against cory who sucks, but still. i was fine with that choice

In Topic: 'He Makes Other Players Better'

16 December 2014 - 05:19 PM

elias was the best forward this team had over a long stretch. parise, you could argue, is in the conversation but elias did it better for longer.

 

tri - you're right that people throw around "makes others better" but the term for that now is "play driver" I think. If you are a player that can do that, you can make your linemates better.

 

i agree the devils do not really have these types of players right now and the draft is where they'll have to get them.

 

as for msweet - that's a pretty big nugget that I'd like to discuss further. i would've loved if i still had someone like anton to give me some inside perspective but i don't. the losing obviously breeds negativity but part of that could also be because the devils as an organization can often stifle "fun". that's something anton always said. it's all business with this team.