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EdgeControl

Member Since 13 Feb 2010
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In Topic: Is tanking the right move?

Yesterday, 08:57 AM

Yeah, big difference between tanking and sucking.  When you're looking for subtle (or not-so-subtle) ways to take natural sucking to a higher level, that's true tanking.

 

What some people don't realize is that players and coaches on bad teams will still be looking for jobs in the seasons to come...they want to show potential new employers that they have something to offer.  Obviously a GM or team president can make a deal with a coach behind the scenes and say "Look, we know it's going to be rough here over the next 2-3 years, but we know once we get you the pieces, you'll do the job.", but what motivation do players like Elias and Jagr have to tank?  Or for that matter, guys like Schneider, Henrique and Cammalleri?  It's easy for us to say "Tank and get some prospects," but losing for the sake of losing goes against the inherently competitive nature found within most professional athletes...and I think a lot of guys on the current roster wouldn't be too happy if Lou ever made some of the moves you allude to (which would be an obvious attempt to lose games).  Some will say "Well, these guys suck anyway, and a lot of them won't be here much longer, so who are they to be angry about anything?  If they were any good, they wouldn't be in this mess to begin with."  But even if it's not showing up in the results, guys still have pride...I don't think it's easy for them to lose, especially when it's for a future that many of them won't be around to benefit from (and that's assuming the losing will pay dividends down the line).  

lets get one thing straight.. in pro sports, players and coaches DONT TANK! Period!  tanking (probably a bad name to call it) is an ownership / GM decision regarding personell and their future. its taking well planned action without regard to the current here and now, for the improvement or potential improvement long term

 

its not blowing up the team, we need to field a team next year

its not intentionally losing, that doesnt happen

 

this season is over! wins are not the most important thing right now

the highest draft pick is probably top 3 of important things

In Topic: Severson out 4-5 weeks

18 December 2014 - 07:20 PM

Make it six to eight weeks please

In Topic: Is tanking the right move?

18 December 2014 - 06:55 PM

Tanking would not be trading all their impending UFAs.  It would be trading all those guys, sending Kinkaid back to Albany, and having Clemmensen split games with Schneider.  Holding core guys out with minor injuries.  At bottom, it's intentionally trying to lose games without being that obvious about it.  And no, it's not the right move, for a myriad of reasons, and ethics isn't one of them.  It's just not a smart move.

you are going to lose/not resign many of them next year and again most of them have fewer than three years left in the tank (no pun) anyway.  who's value is going higher at the deadline than it is right now? (elias is not part of the equation) at least move an entire line, and bring up the kids.  I dont see a myriad of reasons not to.

In Topic: We aren't getting McDavid or Eichel, it's time to realize this

18 December 2014 - 02:37 PM

its not only about mcdavid or eichel. its simply having the higest pick you can. sure its a crap shoot. but if I have to roll dice I'd want to be betting on a 6, 7, or 8. it improves your chances, allows you more choices and is more valuable for trades. the higher the pick the better off you are. sure we're getting healthy but guess what were probably getting injuries AGAIN

In Topic: GDT: 12/17/14 Ottawa Senators @ NJ Devils

18 December 2014 - 07:52 AM

Pete better be gone by the end of the year.  Because if we get a top 5 pick, I fully expect Pete to ruin him like he has ruined several other young players both in Florida and here.

yeah this was all on pete and schnieder and gelanis LOL  we have zero goal scorers on this team without cam