Posted by DevsMan84
on 04 November 2011 - 11:28 AM
In the end, this is something I nor anyone here can do a single fvcking thing about. So either way I will just enjoy this season for now and only worry about ripping my hair out every time Marty lets a soft goal in.
What a terrible analogy. At least my mom is not a spoiled Bitch golddigger who always ask for more money. Sure the hot girl looks good, but deep down you know she is ripping you off while sleeping with the pool boy. This is how I feel when I get an official jersey from the nhl with official iron on crap lettering and spending over 130 on it.
We needed to shore up our defense instead we spend an additional $6.6 million on another LW. We now have $16+ million invested between three LWs and don't have quality defensemen to get them the puck.
It was a bad move.
You just hate Kovy.
Also, we did get 2 defenseman. We got what was the leader is blocked shots and another who was touted as being a "steady" defenseman. They are both underperforming this year and if they lived up to expectations, our defense would be running a little better.
Also, what defender this year would you have liked us to get? It was pretty slim pickings from what I remember. Also, Paul Martin is not exactly lighting them up and we did fine last year when he was sidelined for most of the season.
This season there is not 1 glaring issue, but a series of sizeable issues that came together like a perfect sh!t-storm.
If you want to say that Hasek was better than Brodeur, I have no problem with you. You need to give Brodeur more credit for sustained excellence though.
But is that sustained excellence from the system? Hasek sustained excellence on some pretty underwhelming Buffalo teams and defense but always kept them competative. Just saying it is hard to tell if Brodeur is THAT GOOD of a goalie when in his prime, he was on a Devils team that could have had a crash test dummy in net and still win.
He benefited from playing more minutes and playing the shootout? How so? Padding the wins record? He's already surpassed roy's marker with regulation wins alone.
The true beneficiaries of the shootout are the young kids coming in, who'll probably beat marty's record by their mid 30s if they start young and play often. It wouldn't surprise me if someone beats marty's record within the next 20-30 years
And how many games a season did Patrick Roy play? His career high was 68 games. Marty has played in at least 70 games a season 12 times in his career. Kinda easy to pad stats when you play many more friggin games.
This. But some people are always looking for a reason to diminish his accomplishments. Now more than ever, kick him while he's down I suppose
Acommplishments padded by playing way too many games a season, having a great defense in front of him for a vast majority of his career, and playing for a good part of his career when ties do not exist. He is a great goalie, and I will give you that, but his stats are very padded. His low GAA was easy to get when you have 2-1, 1-1, and 1-0 games druing the late 90's. Why else would you explain he never got a Vezina then when Hasek got them and Marty had superior stats? The GM's are not dumb and they see that Hasek was standing on his head every game while Marty was sitting back enjoying only about 20 shots a game.
There's a huge difference between defending his play THIS SEASON and running him out of town on a rail. It's more than just bashing his play, there's many people here with a personal dislike of him.
Yes at times he's got an ego - what big-name player doesn't - and it's probably hurt the team some years the way Cal Ripken hurt the Orioles by his insistence on playing every game when he could have used a rest or Favre by playing when he shouldn't have - but for someone that's accomplished as much as he has he's still down-to-earth considering.
And if you're going to take his declining play at 38 years old as 'proof' that he's a system goalie I'm sorry, that's just insane.
He has been declining since the last cup. I know you will post how many wins and his GAA on the seasons since, but he was helped A TON by the defense during those years. We will never know for sure how good of a goalie he really is, because in his prime he had quite a defense in front of him. Look at the Rags now. They have had over the past few years bad to average defense at best and Henrik has looked pretty good during those years. But since their organization does not insist on playing him 75+ games a season, he will never come close to wins and shutouts like Marty has in his career. Marty for the last few reasons has been in it to pad up his stats and now he is depressed because on this team he can no longer do it. I know he is saying the right things now, but deep down you can tell he is clearly not happy with himself or this team. Look at how he reacted after the last game.