Pepperkorn

Neidermayer hurt the team leaving. Parise hurt the team leaving. Holik hurt the team leaving. Gomez hurt the team leaving. Lemieux hurt the team leaving.

 

Neidermayer helped himself leaving.

 

Martin helped the team leaving. 

 

Gionta - mutually beneficial exit.  Rafalski mutually beneficial exit. Mogilny mutually beneficial exit. - These guys were doing NOTHING on the team except gettign frustrated and unhappy and there was no way out of that for any of them. Gionta was the cleanest exit because he did no harm at any time. Rafalski was sad because nothing declined for either side - Just with Stevens gone his role was gone and he couldn't fill the vacant roles to his own high standard.

 

Holik hurt himself leaving. Gomez hurt himself leaving. Lemieux hurt himself leaving.  Parise - the jury is still out on.

 

Holik still drives me nuts.  He resists appearing to have any kind of imagination and yet his is HUGE! He makes up his mind what's logical even though his intuition screams the wisest choice. And because he senses he's wrong he always couches what he says leaving room for a graceful backpedal.  He has stupid pride.  Stevens just has humiliating pride (isn't that a cute dichotomy? He's so adorable.  That goodness his mother trained him to be well at easy with his own adorableness) Holik has damaging pride.  So annoying to be witness to.

 

I'm bored.  Our team kind of bores me.  Everyone is so blah besides Clarkson.  I wish Lou liked vanilla just a tad less.  Thing of it is he doesn't like vanilla - he likes the idea of it.  but then when it's all dull and ineffective at the end of the day he's all wondering why he's so unsatisfied with this stupid vanilla he worked so hard to make.  He likes nuts sprinkled on top - but it's so hard to find good nuts! Real nuts - not candy coated crap they sell in the sundae section. No one wants to risk getting their nuts roasted is the thing - and those are the best kind!

It be a retool for any team if they were able to get a 1st overall pick without giving up anyone from their roster? Why would the Oilers want to sotckpile for picks and prospects. If they were trading one of their top picks, it be for proven NHL talent...and a lot of it.

What gives with the Maritimes accent?  "Aye - Thar be whales here captain"

Per TG: "Devils G Martin Brodeur thinks game vs. Rangers at Yankee Stadium 'will be fun.'" Gee, I sure hope he has good seats... .

 

Debour has to go. I'm sorry. Something has to be done this is ridiculous.

YEAH!  Throw away your high cards! Go dude!  Keep posting 

 

(someone remind me to always play poker against this guy)

they  need a sh!t goalie to beat up on to get some confidence.

 

They get that in practice and it doesn't seem to help

 

Sneax has to be John maclean!

I didn't read all the back & forth but DeBoer has been great.  He has something most lack: patience.  He knows exactly what he's doing even if what he's doing is gaining a little insight.  

Personally I think he's got a really strong presence too.  That whole he's lost doesn't know what he's doing stuff... Not  DeBoer. Not even close to the mark. And I like sneax - one of my fave new posters

The joke is that you're not funny, original, or adding anything worthwhile to the discussion? Oh. Ok. Good one, then. You sure nailed it.

SOMEONE's riding the cotton pony

or has sand in his foreskin is you prefer something more masculine

Daniel - Just a quick side note - and at the risk of losing him forever... you do realize we all think of you as looking like the dude in your signature. 

I <3 moustic!

Hooray! All our problems are solved!

 

In all seriousness, why Sesto and not Zalewski?

Dude... it's "the Cup Is Ours"  Hooray is close enough I guess 

You're not really understanding.

I am understanding fine

Translation:

Hey dummass!

Yeah dummass?

Bottom line - I'm not impressed by Lou's phone call.  Maybe you guys are "woooooooo'ed" by the GM of a team calling you, but as far as I'm concerned I didn't get what I paid for, and so, out of good faith and good will, the Devils should have respected this guy's request and HOPED he would come back next year...

That's my two cents...

My 2 cents he was asking for special privledges.  He was denied his specific request - probably due to a physical box office problem not easily rectified.  Once you cancel tx they probably go into a STH sale list.  I'd bet there is no mechanism by which to halt his cancelled season going into the sales queue other than NOT SELLING  them - which is not and CANNOT be an option for a team like the Devils.  The STH box office system is probably NHL mandated and created for teams like the LEafs who have hundereds upon hudreds on their wait list. There was probably NOTHING the Devils could do to retain his exact seats - nothing that coudl be offered STH wide.  Thus dude is asking for special privledges.  When push comes to shove if that's exactly what he wants it's not worth it catering to him.     People have to understand they dont have the right to get exactly what they want.  and they have a responsibility to hold up to their end of a bargain.  You cannot tell me you all dont know that lockouts and work stoppages loom every 5-10 years.  This wasn't somethign any STH was blindsided by.

Anyhow -- stupid of me to respond - some will think what they want to.

Feel bad for Teddy but this could be it for him.. He's just too small for the NHL and it hinders his game all around

Hmeh -- I dont think it's just his size.  Lots of guys can work with the hand they were dealt.  I hope he can come back but  --  it amounts to he's inconsistant.  It doesn't seem like he's learning how he's made things happen.  More like they just happen and he hopes he can make it happen again.  I'm not holding out any hope he'll see a formula for success at this point.  Even if he finds his mojo in Albany - it'll still amount to hit or miss.  I dont know who can help the kid.

No confidence = no technique

which equals death -- you have no path to follow no point of reference from which to grow from.  Everythign is too sketchy IMO. I hate to say it looks like he doesn't know what he's doing and I dont mean it quite the way it reads.  

In this case I think he'd benefit from some time in Albany,  With his Dad he knows NHL mindset so no worries he'd lose something.  I think he could stand to gain a little mojo.  He hasn't entered the ring fighting - which is fine.  So find some swagger in the minors and come back playing like you want to stay in the NHL.

I think Bryz left his brain in space.  That Clarkson goal was a laugher.  Instead of following the puck he focused on his lost stick and before he knew it the puck was in the back of the net.  That's goaltending-101.  Don't take your eyes off of the puck!  Brainfart Bryzgalov.  

What a glorious start to the season.  Rags 0-2. Phailures 0-3. Devils 2-0.

I for one agree with you and understand EXACTLY what you mean.  this board is very into selecting minutiae, deliberately being obtuse or overly specific in order to feel correct/superior.  You may sound glib and superior which is fine by me - you also happen to be correct.  If he is to STAND A CHANCE of making the save he has to keep his eye on the puck. Marty never fvckers around with his stick - if he loses it he plays without it until a whistle.

yes I know the difference between there and thier... man even Stevens corrects my spelling.  No i do not forget anything - I'd have guessed you;d picked up on that by now.  It's a curse.

SUre they wont Daniel -- BUT those like Lou will be working and those like Stevens will be working.... I want quality first and foremost. See I didn't put this in my post and I don't really feel like adding in bit by bit.  I'm just not in the mood for a conversation onthis,  I THINK OF ALL THIS sh!t -- YOu all know that... you all read my jumbled crap trying to answer all you perpetual debaters before you pipe up even.

I dont want to shut people down so much as - I've thought it through and in my current emotional state this is what I want.

I also want a shortened season because 82 games diminishes the qulaity of the hockey. Everyone wants diluted sh!t in the name of fairness -- the name of what?  It's just in the name of revenue at the end of the day.  Decertify.  Save a union for small time leagues where stupid guys really will be taken for a ride.

^&#$(^@$

OK - last post -- seriously...


I just want to put this out there. I don't disagree with the fact these guys have to protect themselves more.  But I HATE the way these guys are portrayed.  Everyone acts like these guys are victim or morons or that they are martyring themselves for their sport.  It's not that way - for the most part it's just not. I think they just lose track of where to draw the line.

Just so it's out there -- and you guys who play should understand what I mean I think.  IT FEELS GOOD.  At the outset it feels fvcking awesome.  If you guys dont understand that you kind of don't quite understand what your talking about.  What you're preaching about.  You MUST take this first CRITICAL FACT into account if you are going to actually change anything.  I mean you can make rules - but it's wussing it down.  You take away the strength of the nature of the desire to push on.

This stuff - dealing with pain builds from what feels like a healthy place.  As a former ballet dancer (as in washed up by 12) you enjoy the discipline, not unlike going for the burn.  It adds a little extra layer of satisfaction - yeah maybe its stupid and maybe it's a little like "why do you bang your head against the wall?  Because it feels so good when I stop" kind of thing.

It feels really good to push through things. There is a rush a physical mental and emotional climax when you push through physically.  BUT -- clearly things get off track and you lose sight of why you're pushing, when it stops feeling good, when you see there will be no payoff - you can't see why you're playing when you are truly hurt.  It's a little pavlovian -- it's a compulsion. If you give in and sit, and your team fails it's your fault.  If they succeed then you feel exposed as a fraud - lacking true value. It's irrational.  There is no rule that can change those feelings. It's not something pounded into guys - YES a lot of stuff is indeed pounded in by coaches -- but they are playing upon this INNATE human trait - this fear and self-doubt. They are turning a man's strength against him. Telling a guy that strength, stamina is NOT manly or that being manly isn't important... that's just bullsh!t. It changes nothing.  His strength IS important, and it's being exploited.

So we can all tutt tutt and say this has to stop hurumph hurumh hurumph.  Yeah -- that's real easy to post on a message board.  But it's not the full story and it doesn't ring true when you say crap like it's more manly to sit.  and you will not get buy in from the players is the really bottom line.  I just think people have to admit what they are really dealing with. It's just not that easy.

You CAN do your best to get rid out of the careless, malicious headshots people throw.  You can make it as weak and unappealing as it is. Re-brand.  I have no problem with that.  But trying to stop a guy from playing hurt by preaching at him... that's just insulting.  Trainers coaches GMs yeah - they need to be held accountable for exploiting human nature - this characteristic a hockey player is going to have. But there is something irritating in the way the message is being delivered - it raises the hackles of dudes who's hackles dont need much to get raised.

blah blah blah .. I wish I didn't care or feel like I had to say something. I don't want to post here... but this sh!t just sits in my head and no one gives a fvck in the real world   I just would rather be thinking about something  that's me... that's organic to MYSELF.  I dont play hockey... I'm not going to.  why does it matter that I put this garbage out here -- I'm TIRED!!! dammitdammitdammit. haha - it's painful and I keep pushing through for no reason   no reason at all... **sigh**  it is to laugh....   i need a hobby