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#1334400 GDT Canucks at Devils 5pm

Posted by Onddeck on 10 November 2015 - 01:22 PM

Do you think exposure to social media and these kinds of forums let's him understand what it's like to be a Devils fan from New Jersey and how our rivalry with the Rangers extends way off the ice? How for a lot of people it goes beyond "there are a lot of annoying Rangers fans around"? No. Absolutely not. There are a ton of amazing fans from all over the place on here, but I think if you ask most of our fans from Norway, Brazil, the Maritimes, Russia, wherever, they're going to understand that this rivalry is largely geo-cultural and they probably don't understand it enough to insult it. The same way fans of European soccer over here can be as die-hard and rabid as anyone, but your average West Ham fan born and raised in Jersey will never really understand their rivalry with Millwall. Sure, they can hate Millwall, because that's their team's rivalry, but imagine someone from here trying to say things like "Millwall hasn't played in the top level of English soccer for however many years, you guys are all stupid for hating them".


What do Yankees-Red Sox have to do with Devils-Rangers? The idea that Yanks-Sox is the quintessential American sports rivalry is pretty outdated. It's pretty much a marketing tool at this point. But, when the rivalry still had some life, Yankees fans chanted "1918" all the time. Yankees fans were openly threatened in even safe, touristy areas of Boston. Regardless, rivalries don't fit a single mold. Devils-Rangers is an organic rivalry driven by the fans and historical and cultural context. Sports are about rivalries. If you wanna go back to the topic of European soccer, something people point at as the ultimate fan support anywhere, they name their supporters groups in the context of their biggest rivals. Every fanbase has multiple offensive chants and songs against their biggest rivals that they sing in streets and bars, forget games that their rival isn't involved in. So, do I think what is probably our oldest fan tradition is the result of an "inferiority complex"? No. Probably because the first time I heard it growing up, we were perennial cup contenders. I think it's a great tradition, and I never want to see it go away. It's something that gives character to hockey in the area, not just in Jersey. It illustrates a real, intense rivalry.


And if you think the Devils have a disproportionate level of dumb fans, you haven't spent a lot of time around other fan bases. The Devils fan base, likely due to the fact that even within our own state we're not extremely popular (due to the NHL still not extremely popular in the area), is one of the smartest ones in hockey. It's not the thing to do to buy a Devils hat and catch a game on Friday nights. Every idiot in Toronto and Pittsburgh and here and there think they're hockey experts because it's the thing to do. Most Devils fans spend time to learn the game and follow the team most nights.


What the hell does it matter that you got scored on after that? You should be vocally supporting your team when you're down 4 and the game's over.


A pattern I'm seeing with you is that rivalries for you are the interpersonal spats you get into with fans of another team. You put all of your energy into finding ways to win verbal arguments with your Canadien fan coworkers or whoever. I don't care about going after Rangers fans and listing the reasons my team is better. I am a fan of one team because I am from place A., and you're a fan of another team because you're from place B. Sports in this country are cyclical, and for all the success we have, you're gonna have it down the line. I'm not spending my time trying to formulate one liners for when Rangers fans tell me "the Devils have no fans". If I get into a disagreement with a fan of a rival team, I tell them to go fvck themselves and go on my way.


I hate the Rangers. I hope nothing but failure for their organization on and off the ice, I hate just about every Rangers fan I've ever met and hope them nothing but misery (regarding their hockey team), and especially in the playoffs, I actively cheer against them. But do I, as you like to say, spend more time hating the Rangers than I do supporting the Devils? I spend every game day scrambling to find a stream to watch or use all my data listening to the game on my phone. I cheer out loud for every goal, winning or losing, last place or in a playoff spot, and I'm usually by myself. So the answer is no. Am I glad that I see the Rangers lost last night when I turn on NHL Network the next day? Yup. Do I think it's over the top for fans to customize "Rangerssuck" jerseys and flip off Rangers fans in public? Nope.


And you know what, I happen to agree with you that a lot of those facebook groups are total garbage, and the worst of the worst active fans end up on those facebook groups. I was in one once, left it almost immediately, and never joined another one. So don't think you gain a thorough understanding of this fan base through social media outlets, because you absolutely cannot. Spend some time down here when you can. Get to as many games as you can. Come and see what it's like to be a Devils fan down here before you go after our crowd and rivalries. Hell, I'll even go to a game with you.


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#1325385 2015 NHL Off-season Thread

Posted by Onddeck on 06 August 2015 - 11:07 AM

at first i thought the mullet was cool, but now its just kinda creepy

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#1318766 Devils 2014-2015 Off Season Thread

Posted by Onddeck on 01 June 2015 - 11:19 AM

two years for St. Louis would be inexcusable

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#1317083 John Hynes of Pens AHL team expected to be Next coach.

Posted by Onddeck on 19 May 2015 - 10:02 AM

This is actually quite a revealing time on this board.


You can see quite clearly who likes what I'll call Devils hockey - which I consider consistent hockey throughout the ages unaffected by trends of the times.


You can see who didn't really know what they were watching. You can see now that all their years of hockey talk actually boil down to their pretty much just trying to second guess what Lou would do next - not really seeing the WHY he might do it or why he did do something.


You can see who kind of bandwagoned onto to the team - yet still felt great loyalty and stuck with the organization despite it not representing a product they liked at ALL. The winning was cool but they didn't actually enjoy the hockey. hmm.


You can see who reeeally doesn't know sh!te from shinola about hockey and has been trying to figure it out all this time latching on to a winning team and trying to figure it all out from there. Sort of a "these guys are winning and they make me admire them - there is strength and I'm going to sit here and watch and try to figure it all out."


Many people are quite lost...  they have no clue why they did or did not like Lou or in fact the Devils.  You can tell by what and how you all are writing. 


I enjoy the people trying to see how to get Devils hockey back in play.  They reference decent teams and look for HOCKEY options. Maybe they came to the team for any one of the reasons above but they've come out the other side KNOWING.  They found hockey.  Which is ...  :wub:  its the best ever...  My nephew is finding hockey playing and that's adorable  not sure he likes it...but I thinkhe does.  He's a  scaredy cat -- but as he grows I see he's just a big thinker -- I hope he starts to enjoy the game <3

there's nothing wrong with preferring a certain style of play. obviously whatever results in a cup is ideal, but if we could choose a style to watch, then to each his own.


something like this does not determine who's a "true fan" or not

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#1312219 GDT: Broadway Blowhards @ Devils

Posted by Onddeck on 07 April 2015 - 12:36 PM

i would say just destroy kreider. take him out of the season.

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#1302187 2014-2015 Around the league thread

Posted by Onddeck on 27 January 2015 - 11:35 PM

Kreider is such a fvcking cockbag. https://mobile.twitt...6366464/photo/1
Someone seriously needs to plant that little twat-stain in the first row.

is this not supposed to be a video clip?
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#1294489 GDT: 12/11/14 Morris Moss v. Your Dad

Posted by Onddeck on 10 December 2014 - 09:42 PM

Enough with these GDTs. The title isn't even funny. Spending way too much time on it and very few want it.
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#1279753 NFL Week 4!!!

Posted by Onddeck on 29 September 2014 - 03:53 PM

Bills are gonna be stuck at 6-10 for a while. Need to rid of their OC, no first round pick this year. No legit starting QB. Watkins is playing good though!

Mike Evans out 2-3 weeks.

Calirolborne, whole year. Good for Dallas, Sterling Moore came in and played really good.

Watt in his first three years blows Strahan out the water, dude is on a different level. Best player, worth every penny of his contract!


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#1274079 The East is the Key

Posted by Onddeck on 21 July 2014 - 11:17 AM

I forgot to mention the Blue Jackets and Wings. The Jackets will be looking very strong next year but the Red Wings will be just ok. Should be a very interesting season.

dont ever sleep on the wings dude. they were better than us last year and played a large portion of the season without Datsyuk and Zetterberg

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#1265374 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs thread

Posted by Onddeck on 23 May 2014 - 10:00 AM

 this is just unreal.  i can't believe this exists... they are outside their minds. 


I don't know any team that celebrates an anniversary since their last cup... you can't celebrate that, thats embarassing.


thats not an anniversary, thats called a drought

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#1249471 can we talk about sean avery and dancing with the stars?

Posted by Onddeck on 04 March 2014 - 11:51 PM

Grow up. He was a prick when he was in the league but now that he's "retired" who cares? The guy is straight, and I bet he pulls some pretty high end tail. And if he was gay (because if you're into the fashion business and a guy, then you must be gay, sarcasm) who cares there either?

uhhh. I'll take this one guys. .
He came out like last year dude
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#1234046 New DeBoer thread

Posted by Onddeck on 23 December 2013 - 12:06 AM

Personally I like the guy and would like to see him stay with us.

But you forgot to mention the goalie situation... Probably his worst attribute
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#1227622 GDT: Devils @ Sharks 10:30PM

Posted by Onddeck on 23 November 2013 - 08:35 PM

LGD! ! fvck the sharks
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#1220056 GDT: Devils @ Bruins 7PM: BRODEUR in Beantown

Posted by Onddeck on 26 October 2013 - 06:48 PM

We are just outmatched out there. I know the first couple deflected off us bit we are just getting outplayed,I feel like we're paying defense most of the game
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#1219860 Lou's performance review - mental decline?

Posted by Onddeck on 25 October 2013 - 05:25 PM

I shouldn't have even clicked on this thread. What a dumb suggestion
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