I guess I owuld expectthem to say that now, although I hope they are looking at the last 5 to 8 years and keeping him on a really short leash, 3 years of no playoffs is unheard of in NJ...
No it's not. This team didn't make the playoffs between 1982 and 1987. It's unheard of in the Lou Lamoriello era of NJ Devils hockey.
People seem to forget (or weren't old enough to remember) how bad this team was before he arrived and basically built this entire organization from the ground up. Our run has ended and it's time to rebuild the team again. Maybe Lou isn't the right person to do it in today's NHL environment. Maybe the game has passed him by. I'm willing to put my money on him and give him a chance at turning this around though.
I know this is a message board, but how is this still being debated? The chant is going nowhere. In fact, it seems to have gotten louder with the vuvuzela.
HEY, GET OVER IT!
I have a family and have no problem with the chant. The family argument shouldn't even be a part of this conversation because, if a parent can't explain to their child what the YS chant means, the context it is being used in, and enforce their own values with their child by telling them not to say that word (if they so choose to go that route), then they shouldn't be a parent to begin with or, at the very least, should never leave their house for fear that their poor child will hear something as profane as a word that is synonoumouswith the word stinks.
Another pure money grab by the NHL (much like the Stadium series). The format is a gimmick, no matter how you try and justify it. It just doesn't seem right to me for some reason. Sometimes you are best served leaving well enough alone. The World Cup works in soccer, and it can work in hockey as well. But , in the end, does it really matter? Nobody (outside of Canada) is going to care about this tournament anyways.
But if you are going to change it, why not take the best 184 players in the world and hold a fantasy draft to select the teams? No country affiliations at all, and still the same high level of play and skill that purportedly is the basis for this format. In fact, it would be an even better tournament because the teams (in theory) would be more evenly skilled.
This quote from Brodeur that Derek21 included in his article sums up everything perfectly:
“I’m living this dream and when you are living a dream and you really enjoy what you do, it’s hard to let go sometimes.”
As a professional athlete, let alone one of, if not, the greatest to ever play the position, it can't be easy letting go of everything you've ever known, the life you've always had, and the routine that's so ingrained in you. That's why for so many of these guys, they need to tear the jersey off their backs and basically force them to retire because they just aren't prepared to go on their own accord. Marty is no different.
What I don't get is all the anger/hatred towards Brodeur. For some on this board it's almost as if supporting Marty and hoping he has success means you don't support Cory. Those 2 things are not mutually exclusive. And for those worried about what some ill informed fan says on Facebook or a blog about wanting Marty back at the expense of Cory, who really gives a sh!t what they say and think! If that is the reason for the vitriol directed toward Marty both now, and last year, then that is a really sad indictment of this fanbase considering everything Brodeur has done for this orgnization for the past 20 years.
I dont think we're in a rebuilt or i dont think Lou sees it that way at all. That means making sacrifices for the future. I simply don't see it. All i see it patching things up the best we can and hold on to what we have to "win now".
In my mind, this is Lou's way of rebuilding. He will never fully blow it up, because he's too much of a competitor for that and knows full well that attendance would rival the Panthers if he did. But he also knows that we don't have any NHL ready forwards in the pipeline, so he constantly has to look to FA to fill the gaps until he can restock. Now that the young D are ready to take the next step, he made the moves necessary to allow then to play. Can you remember the last time we had 3-4 D under 24 years of age in the lineup at the same time?
He may call it retooling, but this is a slow rebuild that has started with the D and goaltending, and will take a number of additional years for the F corp to catch up.
I did...so much was made of Eric when he was in the Juniors, and I followed the Toronto vs. Quebec stats the entire second half of that season, hoping we'd get a crack at him. Alas, it was not meant to be.
But we made out pretty well regardless, could argue we don't win some cups without Nieds.
We likely don't win any of those cups without Niedermayer. Just like we wouldn't have won them without Stevens or Brodeur. Those 3 were the foundation for everything. We were very lucky to have such a prolonged run with 3 HOF'ers in our lineup each night.
Not a chance on those players. Larsson is too much of an unknown right now to risk a good young player. Not that Cogliano is so young anymore.
Larsson was also not a big part of a Cup run. He played decent in 5 games. Hardly a big part.
I agree that he played descent in the limited time he got during that cup run and was not a "big" part. However, his goal in the third period of Game 2 vs. the Flyers was one of most important we scored that entire post season. The Devils were on their way to a 1-0 or 2-0 loss in that game and a 2-0 hole in the series and that goal completely changed the script in that game and, ultimately, the series.
It's amazing how many times the same things can be said over and over lol
+1. I've said it before, and I'll say it again (because everyone else seems to be repeating the same argument over this BS issue), reading these posts is like watching left-wing liberal Democrat argue with a right-wing conservative Republican argue over just about anything. Both sides are so blinded by their own position that they deem infallible that they can't see the valid points the other is making.
Fact of the matter is, there is no right and wrong in this goal song debate. It's all personal preference. To call people that don't agree with your position names and belittle them is just ridiculous and is an example of how most Americans simply talk past, rather than to, each other nowadays.
Also, about the food, how do you run out of chicken fingers and french fries? It was bad enough trying to find a stand that actually sold them so my kid could get something to eat, but when I did, they were sold out! That's piss poor if you ask me. I'm glad they added all these options, but you have to keep the staples in stock.
If any you suck people are lurking here, it would be kind of cool and slightly more clever if you chanted "You Still Suck" after the other team scores the goal, like in the movie The Wrestler.
That way, you don't have to ruin the experience of the Devils scoring a goal for the rest of us.
Does that chant really ruin the experience of a Devils goal for you? This stupid goal song debate is like pitting Republicans vs. Democrats on any issue. It's kind of funny how extreme the people on each side are willing to go to support their position on this and how each side simply cannot see the points being made by the other.
Like I said earlier, I kind of like the new song. But I also hope that the fans throw in the YS chant just to get all the people against it all riled up once again so they can lecture everyone about public descency at a professional sporting event.
I was at grasshopper off the green in Morristown last night and watched the 3rd period and OT there. Place had a number of Rags fans watching the game, and a live Irish band playing. After the Rags won in OT, this slob Rags fan goes up to the lead singer of the band and asks him to play a "rangers song." The singer tells him that he doesn't know one, and hates the Rags. He also told the little puke that this is NJ, and offered to play Hells Bells. When the guy looked at him all puzzled, he says "let's go devils" in a thick Irish accent.
I bought the singer a pint cause that little exchange totally made my night.