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In Topic: Brodeur retires, joins STL front office

28 January 2015 - 06:53 PM

Magic - wow.  No way on that one.  Rivera, sure.  Jeter, no.  If the Yankees had been trying hard to win, I'm not sure Jeter's on their roster last year, and probably not in the role he was in.  Richter, no, he wasn't a generational talent, and he was horribly injured his last few seasons, including his final one - his final game was in November of 2002.  Elway, obviously.  Lidstrom is the one I forgot.



I mean sure - but Brodeur wanted more, and the Devils didn't.  Same thing happened to Willie Mays.  It can't always go perfectly.

"Generational talent" is a pretty subjective word. To double check I wasn't completely insane I googled  "top 10 NBA players of all time" and in the first 4 links he shows up in the top 3 in all of them. Not concrete proof, but he clearly impacted the game in a meaningful way.

I mention Richter because I believe he is now the all times GP leader for NHL goalies with a single team. I could be wrong on that, I am going off a vague memory of a in-game info graphic.


In Topic: Brodeur retires, joins STL front office

28 January 2015 - 06:24 PM

You can throw out anything before free agency happened in sports, because that's just a completely different landscape - there just aren't many athletes who spent their career with one team, and those that did usually were not very good by the end.  Jeter, Ripken, Biggio - these are 3 that come to mind who did it, and they were all awful in their final season.  Mike Schmidt retired mid-season when he just didn't have it anymore.  George Brett's final 3 seasons weren't very productive at all.  If we go over to hockey, Mario Lemieux played 3 injury-shortened years before he gave it up.  Joe Sakic ended his career on an injury.  Hockey just doesn't have many one-team guys who've retired in my sports-watching lifetime.  Someone's going to think you're better than you are at some point (or worse than you are) and away you go to another team.  

I think this is a pretty well written statement but it just sort of emphasis how rare it is to have a great player, a game changing player, play his entire term with your team and just how close it was to happening here. I get that Marty obviously didn't mind rolling the dice to see if he had anything left in the tank, and I am not saying what he should have done (rather, wishing), but that doesn't mean the fan in me wont still be disappointed with his choice given the pretty predictable results.

In Topic: Brodeur retires, joins STL front office

28 January 2015 - 06:09 PM

The sting is only there if you let something so miniscule bother you.

What actual athletes have had the fantasy you're thinking of? And I'm talking generational talents, not guys like Dano. Yzerman? Some classic Yankees?

Off the top of my head, Lemeuix was just mentioned, Jeter, Rivera, Bird, Magic, Elway. I don't think Richter was a generation talent per say but he was a very good. 

In Topic: Brodeur retires, joins STL front office

28 January 2015 - 05:18 PM

When I say the name Michael Jordan nobody thinks of the Washington wizards. It's sad had some people need to make a controversy over 7 measly games.

Plus even before he left Marty didn't have a "perfect" devils career. So to say those 7 games tarnishes it is silly, there are plenty of other things you could point to as a bigger knock but let's be honest he's still the greatest to ever wear the jersey and 7 games doesn't change that.

I distinctly remember his stint with the Wizzards. I also remember his little forary into baseball. Does it change that Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time? No. But I bet there a lot of bulls fans out there that wish he never dabbled with another team and they certainly remember it.

You guys are funny, you keep listing players that had small stints with other teams and rhetorically ask if anyone remembers that they had played for another team...I don't think it's proving your point very well.

In Topic: Brodeur retires, joins STL front office

28 January 2015 - 05:16 PM

If he re-signed with the Devils, I'm sure there would be someone somewhere who said he ruined his legacy because he played as a backup on the team he built or something. These pristine legacies where a guy leaves at the perfect time are fantasies that rarely actually occur.

He wasn't ready to leave the game yet because he probably thought he had something left. Unfortunately he just didn't. And you're right. 7 games changes nothing.

Exceptionally rare. That's part of the sting.