We know you don't like Lou, but you can't pretend the owners did this on their own and that it had nothing to do with him. The league wanting to not punish new owners makes sense, but Lou clearly had a big hand in this.
No one is pretending that Lou didn't have anything to do with it, but the owners were the ones who initiated it and followed it through. I don't know what the problem is with giving them credit where credit is due.
“There’s no question we’re pleased with the decision by the league,” :Lamoriello said. “The appeal for reconsideration was made by new ownership and there was a hearing and the decision was made today.” - See more at: http://blogs.northje...h.YMlMAmpc.dpuf
So, people can go batsh!t crazy towards the new ownership over the song/chant but i don't see anyone giving Harris and Blitzer any sort of credit at all for doing this and taking the initiative. So much for they don't care.
Of course he didn't do anything wrong - I'm just trying to help a new member get accustomed to the policies of the board. There's no 'intimidation' here, it's a general policy to not create new threads when one already exists about a certain topic just so things don't get cluttered. Just giving him a heads up for future reference.
Why must EVERYTHING be a confrontation with you? It's like you come on here looking for fights..
There's no confrontation here. You went looking to play junior moderator and i said to Sullivan don't let these guys intimidate you. If you can find the confrontation there, feel free to point it out.
Well the only logical explanation is bad luck or something unforeseen. In other words, there is no logical explanation at all. And the goaltending has been part of the problem, and even you have criticized Schneider for it.
I've criticized CS because he hasn't been good at one on one, period. He also hasn't had any goal support in the SO, either, just like Brodeur. As a goaltender, who the hell can win a SO when your team scores ONE goal the whole season?
You're doing it again, Mike. You say goaltending is a problem, then say you aren't actually blaming the goaltenders, then you go back to saying the goaltending is part of the problem. I'm being nice here, but this is why members like CR and DM84 get frustrated. This isn't about someone misunderstanding you.
The thing about going on a tear is that nobody ever sees it coming.
We also won't get much of anything for the guys we have if we do sell. This year's draft is considered one of the weakest in a long time. Any first round pick we do trade for is gonna be a late first. I don't think any of our players would fetch a first. Lou really has nothing to lose by buying this season. So why not give it a shot?
You're painfully and annoyingly optimistic. On top of that you're not realistic.
You have to deal in the reality of what this team is. A team that can not score. On top of that, you have to remember that in order to improve and climb the standings, they have to sustain what they already have going for them. A top ranked PK, a 42 year old on a one year deal who can run out of gas any minute now and Vezina-level goaltending that has to stay Vezina level with no margin for error. You know they're going to have to win a SO along the way, too. They also have to leapfrog over at least a half dozen teams.
You can look at it and say that as bad as they've been offensively they have no where to go but up, but after this many games it's clear it's a problem. It was a problem 20 games ago. I mean they are one 42 year old on a one year deal away from being worse if that's possible,.
That is why it is important to consider trading off and getting assets back to start. You're not going to cure all the ills this trade deadline but it's a start they have to consider making. Get some assets back, go into the Summer and continue from there. This team is in an ideal position to deal to teams in a playoff spot or have eyes on a deep run. The players we vilify here can be valuable depth pieces in different roles. Lamoriello is going to get plenty of calls leading up to the deadline. It might not be a stretch to say, but don't you think the Devils can help influence that logjam of top teams in the West with a shrewd and beneficial deal?
The Islanders. The Panthers. Toronto traded for a guy who they thought could be a starting goalie, so maybe throw them into the mix.
The idea that this deal 'fell into Lou's lap' is ridiculous - you know how I know it's ridiculous? I don't remember reading ANYONE thinking this was a possibility. It's an enormous trade - both what it suggested about Lou's faith in the team in the future (high) and what he felt about Brodeur (not high).
He wasn't going to the Oilers under any circumstances. Not to the Islanders. Same with the Panthers. If those teams seriously wanted CS they had more assets in which to deal from. Florida had the 2nd overall draft pick. Toronto traded for Bernier when Luongo was the frontrunner to be traded, albeit a week or so before CS was the one shipped out. Who knows? Maybe Toronto preferred Bernier over CS? Why didn't the Flyers deal for him while we're at it?
Because you don't read about it on the internet before it happens, it's ridiculous? You don't remember reading about it for two very possible reasons. 1) Luongo was the one clearly on the move by June and the focus was on him. 2) You know Lamoriello. We all do. None of Lou's business ever reaches the media. But, besides all that, if Luongo had one foot already out the door, why would CS be mentioned at all going anywhere by anyone who knows anything, let alone to the Devils?
Look, no one is saying this trade wasn't a coup, wasn't enormous and wasn't a steal. This trade was like Christmas morning. Lou isn't the only GM, HOF or not, that has a player fall into his lap for any number of reasons.
Yeah that's true, it's not like the Devils played Kevin Dean and Lyle Odelein and Colin White when he first came up and the end of Daneyko's career (and indeed maybe Daneyko himself) - it was all HOFers back there, all the time.
I guess the defense must be way better for Schneider since Schneider is putting up HOF level numbers so far here.
Besides pulling random names for effect, you could do a lot worse as a goaltender then those players.
This is a "chicken or the egg" argument at it's core. Is Brodeur's success an indictment of his individual talent or is it more a direct result of the players and system he played with/under? I'm sure the day he retires, this will be brought up in retrospect of his career.