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dmann422

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In Topic: 2014-2015 Lineup Thread

24 March 2015 - 03:42 PM

Albany has a remote chance of making the playoffs so I don't think Lou wants to rip the nhl worthy guys (not that there's much) out of there.

In Topic: The "What FAs are you hoping the Devils target this offseason"

19 March 2015 - 04:33 PM

Boucher has never played with a center with the playmaking ability of Gomez. Give him a shot. If he won't produce there he probably won't ever and the team can move on.

LOL move on? He's 21 and has played 23 NHL games. I hope if he doesn't produce with Scott Gomez as his center we'd have a little more patience than one NHL season.

Clearly he's been disappointing in Albany this year but it's not like we have a ton of other options in the pipeline.

In Topic: GDT - Old-Timey Jersey Wearing Devils Vs. Penguins - 7 PM

18 March 2015 - 07:56 AM

Man it's frustrating to think that without Cory we'd be seriously in the macdavid sweepstakes. We had no business winning that game, by it's the penguins so in glad we did.

In Topic: Is Patrik Elias a Hall of Famer?

07 March 2015 - 09:25 PM

Sundin's stats bury Patrik's. 564/785/1349 in 1346 games. Only had less than 30 goals 5 out of 17 years, two of those being Half seasons (one of which he still got 23).
Patrik is 403/607/1010 in 1210 games over 19 seasons.
Patrik has the Cups, but nowhere near the numbers. If you think Sundin is borderline, Elias doesn't get in unless he pays for admission.
I also don't think "he could have done more without the lockouts" is a valid line of reasoning. There's plenty of guys who outplayed Elias that sat out those same lockouts. So really it's true of everyone so it's irrelevant in terms of HOF consideration.

you're right on sundin, although he did benefit from more years in a higher scoring league while patty's career has mostly been in a lower scoring one. Perhaps a better example would be lafontaine- I didn't get to see him play but his stats are close to Patrik's.

Sure if your comparing guys from the same era the lockouts don't matter, but I think they need to be considered in a historical perspective, specifically if your looking at what the bar for election has been in the past. If you consider lafontaine is in and suffered two half season lockouts- one at the end of his career- while patty suffered a season and a half in his prime- at patty's pace that's possibly 50-60 points lost on lafontaine.

In Topic: Is Patrik Elias a Hall of Famer?

07 March 2015 - 01:46 PM

I have a really high standard for hall of fame- so even though I'm a huge patty fan I don't think he measures up.

The problem is that the bar for HOF has been lowered over the year- In numbers alone IMO he shouldn't have a case. But because a guy like sundin is in it all of a sudden makes Elias have a shot.

Also I'd add that if patty didn't have the two lockouts and he played on a more offensive minded team for most of his career, I'm sure he is a HOFer. But that was not the case.

I'll hope he gets in because he's one of my favorite players.