the majority of Olympic sports are based on two final heats. being the best in the world doesn't guarantee anything. skaters and alpine skiers fall once and are OUT! you need to rise to the moment, which, imo , is exciting and unpredictable
right on, you're not necessarily determining the best at something- in the words of rick moranis as the immortal danny o'shea in the 1994 classic little giants- "the cowboys may beat you 99 times out of a hundred, but that still leaves one time."
The Olympics isn't really about determining the best (otherwise the soviets would have won in 1980) it's about seeing who can win on any given day in a short tournament. Heck you could go as far as saying that in the nhl the presidents trophy winner should be awarded the cup if you just want it to go to the best team.
No, there's nothing wrong with being optimistic. However, it gets annoying talking to someone who refuses to actually acknowledge the reality of the situation.
And trust me, I'm close to doing so.
The same can be said about the entire season thus far - and it's left the Devils right where they are, significantly (imo) back from the last playoff spot. I mean, there's just not enough reason for me to believe (despite my sig - letting you down here MB30) that it'll all suddenly click. I hope it does - I would love to be eating massive, ungodly amounts of crow in two months.
You can play this hypothetical situation out a million different ways - maybe the Devils don't trade Jagr, and he gets hurt and misses the rest of the season. Or maybe he completely rebels against PDB and destroys the locker room. Obviously exaggerated and unlikely scenarios, but.. you hopefully get what I'm trying to say here.
We'll have to agree to disagree - I'd rather the Devils acquire picks/prospects (regardless of the chance of the players amounting to something) than see Vets play out their contracts. Maybe you get a late 1st for Jagr, a 2nd for Zidlicky, a 3rd/4th for Fayne - maybe Lou can make a package to move up in the 1st round with these assets. It's obviously alllll hypothetical - but I'd rather see the Devils take this route.
fair enough... Believe me if there is a plate of crow for you and others in a few weeks mike and I and others would love to serve it to you nice and hot!
A .660 point% the rest of the way gets them to the 92-point sweet spot. Tall order for a team that's currently at .518 for the season.
Not saying that a .660 point% is impossible, but it does mean the Devils can't slog through any more of the 3-3-3 stretches like the one they're on right now. Or go on a 0-2-3 run where some will say, "Hey, at least they got some points!" A stretch like that means they'll have to come with 70%+ in the other games, and unless a lot of guys suddenly start finding the back of the net consistently, I don't think they can do that.
right, which is why we're only a 42% chance to make it. But to be fair most if the teams above us have been consistently mediocre as well. There's a reason everyone is hovering around the 57-59 point range.
I would also argue that outside of the stadium game were playing by far our best hockey this season right now, no coincidence that we're healthy at the same time.
Good thread and I respect your opinions, my biggest disagreement is zajac. As others have said in many ways he is the best player on the team (obv that's not saying much with our lack of top flight talent).
The fact that the team doesn't have a first line center also can't be held against zajac. He is probably one of the best 2nd line centers in the league, but unfortunately people look at him as our first since we don't have anyone else.
And with the new cba (the cap is expected to rise at record levels in the coming years), 5.75 is good value for a top 2nd line center.
If you bring in gagner he would be our 3rd line center. Zajac and henrique are here long term. I would not trade Larsson or Merrill for a third line center, would much rather be patient and wait until the both develop into top pairing defensemen.
Not only are there at least 2-3 examples in the previous pages, but I heard a ton of people at the game last night who seemed annoyed that we landed a big sponsorship deal and Kevin Clark just had to announce it; like nothing our new owners do is good enough... not to mention seeing plenty of those kinds of comments on Facebook, etc... But yeah there are enough examples here and I really don't feel like quoting and getting into personal spats with anyone.
I'm just of the opinion that this kind of announcement IS a big deal, and it probably means more to our franchise and our finances than we little ones comprehend at the moment.
Edit: there's way more than 2-3 examples. I really don't wanna get in a tit-for-tat with anyone so I won't post the 8 blatant examples of F'ing useless whining that I just "Multiquoted", calling people out personally doesn't really do any good for anybody.
I agree with you, I think anyone complaining about the deal is not looking big picture or is stuck in the past. It just seems to me that the vast majority here favor it and, most importantly, think it signifies a big step for the organization as far as being progressive.
I've said it before: less than 5% of the fanbase even knows this board exists, and a fraction of them post actively here. To make blanket statements saying our fanbase is hypocritical or can never be pleased based off of this small percentage is ridiculous.
To say you have "specific posters in mind" and then extrapolate that to reflect the whole fanbase is doing exactly what you are criticizing- your complaining about something that isn't an issue.
I still don't get the cam and sestito hate... With the injuries we have at least one of them has to play. I also think sestito is serviceable as a 4th liner. Look at some 4th lines around the league and see what other teams are dealing with.
Geez how come after every loss the freaking 4th line is one of the first complaints around here.
Thats simple. By knowing youre gonna lose him and choosing long term instead of short term. 29 teams doesnt win the cup every year, yet they come back the next year, they survive. How many team lose 3 30 goals scorers for absolutely nothing withing 2 season but yet the GM is not to blame at all?
thank god you're not my gm... I'm glad we kept parise for the cup run and I'm glad we didn't trade clarkson for a second round pick when we still had a chance at the playoffs.
Joe Thornton is a ufa this offseason. If the sharks can't give him an extension before the deadline should they trade him? How about statsny, Phaneuf, Callahan or steen? Each of those teams are looking at the playoffs but should they just cut bait now so that they don't walk for nothing?
man that is fvcked, hes part of our depth so when lil gio or baby teddy or glass jaw jj go down.
edit; or clowe or grandpa jagr, no jinx
reedit "Oh&Eliaz" get it spaz
healthy body, sick mind.
basically everyones been injured this season minus jazz line and marty and jj and this guy cant get a role?
I've read this post 3 times and still have no idea what it means.
On topic: olesz didn't want to go back to being buried in the ahl. Unfortunate because he probably would have been the first call up when the inevitable injury happens. But I'm not too disappointed- he had plenty of opportunity and even a few games in a top 6 role and really didn't do much.
I am proud of the fact that the team doesn't throw out jersey designs left and right. It's bush league. Look at most of the great sports franchises in history, part of their allure is the consistency of their uniforms.
Red wings, bruins, Yankees, Red Sox, celtics, lakers. They don't need to produce gimmicky jerseys to gain notoriety. They let the product on the field (or ice or court) elevate their logo and jersey into iconic levels.
And I want the devils to be grouped with them, not the wild, ducks and hurricanes of the sports world.