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#1324331 So now that Lou is gone...

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 27 July 2015 - 09:06 AM

The problem with actually trying to put a real Devil face on the front of a jersey is that just about every design of it is either going to look cartoony or become dated within four or five years.  It's the relative simplicity of the NJ with horns (and the fact that it ties in with New Jersey) that's allowed that logo to remain relevant, without ever looking silly.  I can't think of a single actual Devil face (or full-bodied version) that will ever remain timeless, or come close to having universal appeal.  They'll all likely be a "love it or hate it thing", no matter how they're depicted. 


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#1324165 Fan Misery Index - Devils #1....really?

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 25 July 2015 - 07:25 AM

Re: the Rangers...they have accomplished a lot in recent years, but it reaches a point where constantly coming close but never getting over the hump becomes a different kind of misery unto itself. In a way, sure, it's kind of a nice problem to have, enjoying a window of being both relevant AND a threat, and knowing your team is likely to be in on the juicy player acquisitions...but when a championship doesn't result from it (and one is more than enough in any given window), there's so many what-ifs and if-onlys that can be downright haunting for everyone involved. Even with 2000 and 2003, we still sometimes pick at the scab that will forever be 2001, Unfinished Business.

As for us...11 years isn't that far removed from a Cup win, and we saw our team reach a Stanley Cup Final just three years ago. We've seen the end of a regime that we all appreciate, respect, and will remember fondly, but needed to be ended. We have owners who are clearly willing to spend money on the on-ice product, and seem to want to make the fan experience as good as it can be. Obviously things aren't pretty now, and we'll have to be patient, but at least there's reasons for hope and optimism. That helps a lot, in diluting the misery...the writer is considerably off-base.
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#1324118 Tom Fitzgerald named Assistant GM

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 24 July 2015 - 01:52 PM

This is actually an incredibly sad commentary about what our society has become.

 

It's not, actually.  SD left out some things.  Like players having more and more opportunities to decide to play where they want to.  If the previous generations of players had those same opportunities for the same salaries, you can bet they would've taken advantage.  I can guarantee you that some terrific players who had to endure playing on bad teams year after year after year (sometimes for entire careers) because they had no say in where they played would've loved to have been playing in the present time period.  They didn't stay with their teams completely out of loyalty and because they were all swell guys.  They stayed because they had no choices, didn't know any better and became products of their environments, and way back in the day didn't think to fight for free agency rights and the rest.  Owners often treated their players like sh!t back in the "good ol' days"  

 

As for divorce...same thing.  Do you really think people stayed together back in the day simply because they were loyal?  Women often stayed with men because they simply couldn't support themselves in what was a limited job market for them.  Career opportunities were not lucrative enough to support a family if they had kids.  Even obviously abused women often stayed in marriages because they felt like they had nowhere else to go, or were simply that terrified to leave.  That must have been great for the kids of families like that.  Yeah, high divorce rates does cheapen the whole institution of marriage somewhat, and some people probably don't put as much effort into their marriages as they should, but part of the whole "increased divorce thing" is people actually realizing life is too damned short to stay trapped in miserable and hopeless situations, and because they are better able to handle the financial hardships and other issues that come with divorce, they aren't staying in it for the sake of staying in it. 


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#1321646 Devils pick Goalie Blackwood with 2nd round pick

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 28 June 2015 - 10:07 AM

Blackwood, Wedgewood, driftwood, deadwood...what's the difference?
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#1320686 Today's the day--Happy 20th Anniv.-1st Stanley Cup

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 24 June 2015 - 11:50 AM

Being there was pretty amazing. Tons of enthusiasm and anticipation in the parking lot...it was windy but sunny, and everyone was just enjoying each other's company and the whole experience. When Chambers' second goal in the third period gave the Devils that 5-2 lead, the feeling among the crowd was exhilaration and almost a little disbelief...the only thing separating the Devils from the Cup at the point was time left on the clock, and there was definitely a "Holy sh!t is this REALLY happening?!" sentiment going around.

As the minutes left in the game dwindled down to seconds, the build-up was almost too much...time seemed to slow down exponentially...sometimes it felt completely frozen. But when the clock FINALLY showed 0.00...god DAMN...the pure rush of emotions...everyone losing their collective minds...strangers hugging...scoreboard fireworks...all of it was so overwhelmingly beautiful...felt like a room full of people were somehow one and the same...I'll never ever forget it. My finest moment as a sports fan, without question.

 

Thanks DM84...the b-days stop being happy after 21 though.  Now it's just about getting older and older.  Can't believe 50 is only five short years away.


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#1317091 John Hynes of Pens AHL team expected to be Next coach.

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 19 May 2015 - 12:25 PM

This is actually quite a revealing time on this board.

 

You can see quite clearly who likes what I'll call Devils hockey - which I consider consistent hockey throughout the ages unaffected by trends of the times.

 

You can see who didn't really know what they were watching. You can see now that all their years of hockey talk actually boil down to their pretty much just trying to second guess what Lou would do next - not really seeing the WHY he might do it or why he did do something.

 

You can see who kind of bandwagoned onto to the team - yet still felt great loyalty and stuck with the organization despite it not representing a product they liked at ALL. The winning was cool but they didn't actually enjoy the hockey. hmm.

 

You can see who reeeally doesn't know sh!te from shinola about hockey and has been trying to figure it out all this time latching on to a winning team and trying to figure it all out from there. Sort of a "these guys are winning and they make me admire them - there is strength and I'm going to sit here and watch and try to figure it all out."

 

Many people are quite lost...  they have no clue why they did or did not like Lou or in fact the Devils.  You can tell by what and how you all are writing. 

 

I enjoy the people trying to see how to get Devils hockey back in play.  They reference decent teams and look for HOCKEY options. Maybe they came to the team for any one of the reasons above but they've come out the other side KNOWING.  They found hockey.  Which is ...  :wub:  its the best ever...  My nephew is finding hockey playing and that's adorable  not sure he likes it...but I thinkhe does.  He's a  scaredy cat -- but as he grows I see he's just a big thinker -- I hope he starts to enjoy the game <3

 

First bolded isn't really accurate, as far as Lou's era goes...Lou's era can really be divided into sub-eras.  The first part (prior to Jacques Lemaire, through the end of the '92-'93 season) was Lou collecting and dealing pieces and having some very good talent, but not really sure how to turn it into a consistently winning hockey team, or what the team identity should be.  That changed when Lemaire was hired, and when Brodeur joined the team.  Lemaire provided the blueprint, Brodeur the continuity and the face. 

 

Though many (even some Devils fans who really should know better) insist that the Devils were winning 2-1 trap-driven borefests every night, we all know that wasn't really true...at least, not nearly to the extent that so many from the media and other teams' fanbases wanted to believe.  In the middle part of Lou's era (say '94-'03), there were actually some terrific Devil teams that could do it all:  play top-notch defense AND put pucks in the net, and some of those teams were - gasp! - quite easy on the eyes and exciting.  The 2000 and 2001 squads were a blast to watch.  And even the Devils teams that weren't scoring as much weren't nearly as boring as made out to be.  It's one of those things where enough people said it that it just became accepted as gospel, regardless of what was happening on the ice. 

 

The 2004+ phase of Lou's tenure could be rough at times...many of those teams seemed to have to claw for every point and every win, and at times could just be so ugly to watch...felt like a number of those teams overachieved, only to turn into the two-steps-slower, easily-overwhelmed Devils come playoff time.  Marty did his best work during this time, though that doesn't always get noticed.  Sure, the fact that the Devils were still finding ways to put up 100-point seasons with what seemed to be smoke and mirrors was great, but those teams were not always easy or enjoyable watches, and sometimes looked completely out-of-sync...sometimes it felt like they were winning in spite of themselves.  I do think most fans appreciated what Lou did and how he did it for as long as he did, though those who didn't definitely spoke with loud voices.   

 

The second bolded:  be careful with that one.  You're not exactly renowned for coherent and cohesive articulation.  You shouldn't be judging anyone. 

 

 

On topic:  it's so quiet in Devil-land...I get the feeling the coach is going to be a "wha, who, huh?" kind of choice. 


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#1316170 New York Mets 2015 Season Thread

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 09 May 2015 - 11:32 AM

Now apparently Gee is on the DL and Syndergard will be making his debut sooner than expected.

 

You probably already know this by now, but Syndergaard will make his major-league debut Tuesday against the Cubs.

 

Hoping it's the last we see of Dillon Gee in the Mets' rotation.  Nothing against him, and he's clearly a decent major-league pitcher who, if he's able to stay healthy, should be in the majors for at least 4-5 more seasons.  But when you've got superior talent not getting a shot because a meh-ish player has "experience" (not having experience hasn't seemed to affect Harvey and deGrom all that much), or is getting paid too much to sit (Gee's salary definitely was a factor here), it's kind of maddening.  We kind of knew Gee and/or Niese would go down with an injury in due time, and yep, it happened.  Really hope Noah makes the most of this opportunity and never gives the Mets a reason to send him back down.


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#1315691 RAY SHERO = NEW GM. Coach decision is Shero's.

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 05 May 2015 - 09:18 AM

CR, history lesson please. I always heard how pissed Stevens was, but what was going on with players on the Devils team?

 

The short of it:  Stevens was making considerably more money at that time than many Devils, who basically were taking a "Well, if he's making that much, then I want this much" stand.  Here's some articles on what a mess things were back then: 

 

http://www.nytimes.c...ract-sport.html  Driver saying a lot of Devils weren't happy with their contracts.

 

http://www.nytimes.c...-walks-out.html  This was shortly before Muller was then traded for Richer.

 

http://www.nytimes.c...the-devils.html  Stevens still having no intention of reporting to the Devils.

 

http://www.nytimes.c...for-rebels.html  Muller taking some shots at the Devils on his way out.

 

Lou also had to deal with potentially not having Sean Burke due to contract issues (Terreri had moved ahead of him anyway, simply by outplaying him, and as we know, Burke did indeed sit out the entire 91-92 season), and then lost John MacLean (one of the dissenters) to an ACL tear in preseason.  Losing MacLean was a killer...he was on a tear that preseason (7 goals in 8 GP), and I think he would've flirted with 50 that season if he had stayed healthy.  He looked terrific that preseason. 

 

Just a very ugly time in Devils' history, but Lou somehow got them through it, and they went on to have a respectable season.  The team went 32-18-7 before fading (they finished 38-31-11), and put up a then-franchise-high 87 point in making the playoffs, and took a superior Rangers team to seven games before losing in the first round.  Messier said the Devils took just enough out of them in that first round to have an affect in their next series against the Penguins (the Rangers lost in six). 


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#1315681 RAY SHERO = NEW GM. Coach decision is Shero's.

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 05 May 2015 - 08:19 AM

This what I meant when I said I really need something to react to (in dr33's thread) before speculating/reacting.  Though it was looking more and more like Lou was going to remain the GM, no one really knew for sure what the future held. 

 

My mentality is pretty similar to a lot of other fans'.  I greatly appreciate everything Lou did.  He'll go down as one of the best GMs ever, especially when one considers that, though he did have higher payrolls than people remember, he was never spending to top-of-the-league levels.  He somehow steered the Devils through a near-mutiny after Stevens was awarded as compensation, from many players on his team and from Stevens himself.  He had GMs calling him in mostly condescending fashion, who were basically saying, "You know Stevens won't ever play for you, so do the right thing and trade him to a real team and we'll try to give you something decent in return."  Lesser GMs might've blinked.  Lou didn't.  He more or less told every GM to fvck off, that Stevens was a Devil and that was that.  He then told the potential mutineers that enough was enough and that they were Devils under contract.  That was really the beginning of Lou's "my way or no way" Devils as far as I'm concerned...sure, we saw some of that before, but I'm still amazed how he got through such a tumultuous offseason.   

 

But more and more it just like Lou's time as GM here needed to be over.  Under the circumstances of the past few seasons, some of which were complicated (Kovalchuk deciding to bail, VBK's finances), I understood most of Lou's moves.  But I've always felt a GM's time with a franchise has run its course when it seems like even the decent "on paper" moves stop working.  As much as I wanted to believe that Lou could somehow turn this around if given the chance, I wasn't feeling terribly hopeful that it was possible, for many reasons which have been extensively covered.  I think it was simply time for new ideas and a different perspective.

 

As for as Shero goes, this is almost like if the Yankees' Brian Cashman eventually gets another GM job where he doesn't get to enjoy spending as twice as much as several other teams.  Shero isn't walking into an ideal situation here.  He's going to have his work cut out for him, and we're going to see what he's made of.  Not saying he's not capable of rebuilding the Devils into a contender, and Shero is young enough and did show enough with Pittsburgh that I do think he's earned a second chance as an NHL GM, and I'm fine with it being here.  The time felt right for a change, and though I can't say I'm outright "glad" about it, I stand behind it.  Looking forward to seeing what comes next. 


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#1313606 2014-2015 Season in Review - Confession Time

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 15 April 2015 - 01:35 PM

 

PM: (standing there in shock, mouth wide open....finally able to speak) This really is the darkest timeline...

 

 

How long before we go to where the Prudential Center used to be, only to find it replaced with Biff's Pleasure Paradise?

 

I have to admit, I can only imagine the conversation that 2015 me would have with 2012 me just after SCF Game 6 ends. 

 

2015 me:  Hope you enjoyed that Finals run.  Because guess what?  You're not getting back to the playoffs for the next three seasons.  After the lockout ends (yep, another fvcking lockout is really going to happen AGAIN...these guys just think they can take the sport and the people whose livelihoods depend on it hostage anytime they feel like it), Kovy's going to have to be dragged back from Russia to NJ (remember how into it he seemed here after a rough start?), and then he's going to say screw it and retire.  That's right...no more "This is team" Kovy after next season.  Zach's leaving too.  Zajac will get signed to a long-term deal and then immediately stop producing Zajac-like numbers.  And while I'm at it, I've got more good news:  the Rangers...yes, the friggin' RANGERS...will get to the SCF in 2014.  They won't win, but they'll win the President's Trophy in 2015, which they clinch by making us look EXACTLY the way we used to make them look in a beyond brutal home-and-home series...

 

2012 me:  Oh fvck this.  Where's the Jagermeister?  The big bottle? 


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#1307088 Should Schneider be traded?

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 26 February 2015 - 05:24 PM

No way. He's a great cornerstone piece to have and build around. I want to keep him.
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#1302082 Brodeur retires, joins STL front office

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 27 January 2015 - 01:35 PM

I'm glad he retired. Hopefully when the time comes, he comes back to work for the Devils. Looking forward to Marty Night next year.

 

Marty night...then Patrik night...then it's going to be a loooooooooooooooooooooong time comin' for whoever's next. 


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#1300639 Official "Marty Watch" Thread

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 14 January 2015 - 07:40 PM

Hope those 6 games were worth it for him.


He didn't do anything wrong. Guy wanted to play and found a team willing to play him. Probably was very worth it to him, in that he got to do what he still loves to do and got a little extra coin to boot. Kind of hoping he moves on now, but that's up to him and 30 NHL teams.
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#1300291 I really am beginning to hate our fans.

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 12 January 2015 - 12:10 PM

Hate to bring this topic back from the dead but what I heard about what happened at the STH event last night on both FB and HFBoards really burns me up.

 

The event was basically the fans interacting with players on various different panels.  The panels were usually around 3-4 players each.  From what I heard last night and today, when Salvador went up people, Devils "fans", actually were booing him!  Not only that but a few people were observed getting up and leaving when he went up.

 

How fvcking disrespectful is that?  These are paying STH who would boo their own captain?  I don't care if you love him or hate him, to do this at a meet and greet event where it is supposed to be a friendly atmosphere is beyond terrible.  I have ragged on Marty here and there throughout the years but I would never boo him at an event like this.  The "fans" that did this are completely classless are rude.  I don't know how I would have reacted to the booing fans, but it wouldn't be pretty.

 

I wish I could say I am surprised, but I am not.  This is what a decent chunk of our fanbase is these days and I am embarrassed to be rooting for the same team as them.  This is why I really do hate a decent chunk of our fanbase.

 

No other way to put it...that just sucks on every level.  I definitely didn't like Sal the player the last couple of seasons, but everything I've seen of Sal the person screams down-to-earth class act and generally good guy.  And an event like last night's isn't a game, where booing is somewhat tolerable (I don't do it myself...not to my team's players, anyway).  I'm guessing Sal took the high road and let the booing roll off him, but damn...yeah, some fans really just suck royally. 


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#1297285 Would this new rule give the Devils a chance?

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 25 December 2014 - 06:33 PM

If the shootout is the equivalent of syphilis, then 3 mins of 4-on-4 and 4 mins of 3-on-3 followed by a shootout is more like crabs...still kind of ickey, but not as much. At least it could mean less shootouts, which I'm all for...never liked them and never will.
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