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#1279588 Clarkson injured

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 28 September 2014 - 06:57 PM

Now water bottles everywhere will be defenseless.
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#1279109 Prudential Center's New "No Smoking" Policy

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 25 September 2014 - 08:23 AM

I quit smoking in May of 2001 and haven't taken a puff since, after smoking for about 9 years.  (About 4-5 packs a week). 

 

Some hard-core smokers will complain about "health Nazis", whatever, but let's face it, smoking is stupid and there's no defending it: nothing good comes out of it, on many levels it's actually kind of selfish (secondhand smoke harms other people, and family members (like your children) may have to deal with taking care of you later in life, after smoking has done its irreparable harm), they're a fire hazard, and butts being left all over the place is disgusting.  And it reeks.

 

Sorry, but if you can't handle 2.5-3 hrs of not smoking when you go to a Devils' game, that's YOUR problem.  You can light up just before you hit the 25 feet border, and do the same just after.  It's not that much to ask. 


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#1278073 Devils re-sign Gelinas

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 15 September 2014 - 02:19 PM

How did Lou give in? 900k is pretty cheap for what Gelinas did offensively and in line with Larsson's deal (and Larsson didn't spend nearly the time in the NHL Gelinas did last year). I think it was absolutely intentional Gelinas and Larsson got the same deal.

I don't think Gelinas gained or lost anything by signing now as opposed to last month.

 

Lupien:  "We'd like 3 years, $4 million."

 

Lou:  "How about one year, $900k?"

 

Lupien:  "OK, how about two years, $2.4 mil?

 

Lou:  "How about one year, $900k?"

 

Lupien:  "Two years at $1.05 mil each?"

 

Lou:  "I like one year at $900k each myself."

 

Lupien:  "One year at $1.1 mil then?"

 

Lou:  "I was thinking...wait for it...one year at $900k."

 

Lupien:  "How 'bout..."

 

Lou:  "How about you stop wasting my fvcking time and sign the only offer you're going to get?  I have to start tracking down all of the bodies I'm inviting to training camp."

 

Lupien:  "Fine, one year, $900k then"  {mutters "fvcking Lou, that son-of-a..." to himself}

 

Lou:  "Pleasure doing business with you Gilly...tell Marty I said hi the next time you see him!"


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#1274601 Andy Greene Signed +5 years @ $5M Per Season

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 30 July 2014 - 03:26 PM

I think we're seeing Lou get to build the team how he wants to under this new ownership. Lou has shown many times in the past that if a player is an important piece, he will sign them early. People will always point to Zach, but I think this is showing us that Zach was just a case of a perfect storm of bad timing, with a lack of money,  a massive Kovy deal, an impending lockout and the not-so-secretive Minnesota money all coming together.

 

I remember Lou kind of taking a swipe at previous ownership (or what passes for one in Lou-speak)...I forget exactly what he said, but I remember him implying that he was hamstrung financially and wasn't able to do everything he would've liked. 

 

 

fvck you a$$hole. 

 

Well that's a step up from the last thing you called me...good to see I'm moving up ze ranks.


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#1274594 Andy Greene Signed +5 years @ $5M Per Season

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 30 July 2014 - 03:15 PM

Of course Lou waits until there's only 336 days left to finally talk to Greene. :tomato:

 

How long before we get a "See, Lou has finally learned his lesson!"...in (garbled) English and in French.

 

Anyway, glad Greene is back...good for him, he's made himself into a nice defenseman.  Would love to know the terms though.


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#1273736 Let's start a pool of where Brodeur will end up

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 15 July 2014 - 02:16 PM

I disagree I feel like hitting 700 would be something he wants.

 

Sad thing is, unless he surprises the hell out of everyone (first by finding someone to sign him, and then by playing well), if he limps to 700, a fair number who saw him play will say, "Yeah, but he hung on too long."  It's the hanging on too long part that neither Roy or Hasek were guilty of...in Roy's case, people who look only at the numbers as time goes by will say "Why the hell did Roy retire?  He was still playing great!"


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#1268346 So Apparently The Rumor Is Kovy Could Be Coming Back

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 13 June 2014 - 03:09 PM

:lock:

 

Oh well, was fun while it lasted.

 

Number of people who bought into Dino the No-Talent Hack's big "scoop" and signed up to hear his take on it:

 

ZERO


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#1267862 Confronting the Nightmare - UPDATE: NIGHTMARE OVER, KINGS WIN!

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 10 June 2014 - 10:50 AM

Continuing the WarGames theme:

 

Glen Sather, after last season:  Mr. Tortorella, after very careful consideration, sir, I have come to the conclusion that your new defense system sucks.

Torts:  I don't have to take that, you pig-eyed sack of sh!t.

Sather:  I was hoping for something a little better than that from a man of your education.  And step into my office...cause you're fvckin' fired!  (OK, that last bit isn't from WarGames)

 

 

The press:  Do you think the way to get to Quick is to start running him, try to bump him?

 

Vigneault:  Hell, I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it'd do any good.

 

 

 

 


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#1267573 So Apparently The Rumor Is Kovy Could Be Coming Back

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 09 June 2014 - 11:10 AM

I'm not gonna argue with you,it's obvious you don't like Kovi, but one thing you guys are missing is the availability of players 

we don't have a lot to offer in a trade, we don't have a stacked minor league system (forwards), we don't draw free agent like the big market teams

how do you expect Lou to make this team better?

one player cant do it all, but he can help in our weak areas

 

Find me one team where all the forwards have excellent stats.....it's never gonna happen

 

Guess you didn't read any of my posts when Kovy left.  I said I didn't really hold his choosing to leave against him, that if he wasn't happy here and his heart truly wasn't into being a Devil or being in America for that matter, I wasn't going to judge him for it, or have any hard feelings.  I'd rather he not be here than be completely miserable being a Devil, which apparently he would've been at that time had he stayed. 

 

If I truly thought that Kovy could help this team (because that's all I really care about...can he make the Devils better?), then I'd be all for it (and admittedly even discussing this is probably pointless), though nervous (see below).   But I don't think he does.  I've already stated why.  He had a pretty disappointing year in a lesser league last season, after a not-so-great season in the NHL in 2013.    

 

You don't really have any proof that he's going to be that much of a help here, outside of blind hope...you're coming off like his coming here will lead to an automatic playoff berth, and him being productive. Like I've said, I don't have anything against Kovy personally, but if any of this crap is true, he wanted to go back home, even left a lot of money on the table because he wanted to go home that badly (though he signed for nice money over there, to play in a lot less games per season), but now he wants to come back and leave SKA behind?  Sorry, I'd be a little nervous about a guy prone to that kind of flip-flopping, even if was only for a one-year or two-year deal...if Kovy is about halfway through this season and is clearly having a rough time, do you put it past him to say "Screw this"?  Is it really that much of a stretch to think he might not honor yet another deal, after bailing on two long-term contracts?    


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#1266340 Confronting the Nightmare - UPDATE: NIGHTMARE OVER, KINGS WIN!

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 31 May 2014 - 06:07 PM

not everyone takes sports as seriously as most of us Devils fans do

Soooo many people just go with the flow and have a good time doing it....I wish I could, but....

 

For a lot of people, this is what professional sports represent.  A fun diversion that they don't really invest themselves into heavily.  These people aren't fanatics; they're casual observers who only stand up and take notice when something big is happening (like a deep playoff run). 

 

I can't get that worked up about that type of "observer" (to call them fans is an insult to real fans).  Now if someone I knew who'd been a Devil fan for years suddenly decided to switch allegiances to the Rangers because of what they've done this season...THAT person I'd have absolutely no use for as a sports fan.

 

What you hope for is that a percentage of these observer-types might decide to take the next step and slowly but surely educate themselves on the finer points of the game, choose a team, and stick with them instead of going with the hot hand.  But no matter what, there will always be observer, go with the lead-horse types. 


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#1266138 Confronting the Nightmare - UPDATE: NIGHTMARE OVER, KINGS WIN!

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 30 May 2014 - 06:57 AM

Woe is us now...

 

Meh, what are you going to do?  The nature of sports is cyclical.  Hopefully, you get to root for a team like ours, where the truly awful down cycles are either nearly non-existent, or relatively short-lived (we'll see how long this one lasts, but at least in among the three non-playoff seasons was a memorable Cup run).  In a perfect world (my version, anyway), the Rangers would suck every year.  But in today's NHL, it's hard to be hapless season after season after season, unless you have a lot of drafts go belly-up, insanely rotten luck, or your front office is constantly making awful decisions.  And with the playoffs having more of a crapshoot feel now than ever, it's all about getting hot (with a little luck thrown in) at the right time...home ice and seedings simply don't mean a whole hell of a lot.  In general the Rangers are playing pretty well right now, and though the circumstances are clearly very tragic, St. Louis losing his mother seems to have somehow brought those players together...not in a "Let's win one for St. Louis and his mom!" way, but the way his teammates were there for him just seems to have brought them together and made them closer, and that appears to be helping them on the ice. 

 

As much as I hate the idea, if the Rangers do win the Cup, so be it, but like others have alluded to, I don't want to hear comparisons to '94.  Those teams are nothing alike...just let the 2014 bunch be the 2014 bunch without trying to create artificial parallels for the sake of manufacturing a storyline that isn't there.  And I also don't want to hear anything about what a "genius" Glen Sather is, and how he never lost it after all of these years.  Glen Sather has largely been a bad GM in his Ranger tenure, and I'm going to guess his earlier Ranger track record would've gotten him fired from at least 20 other organizations, if not more.  No one has a 14-year-or-so plan to win a Cup. 

 

Sometimes you get some random luck too.  You don't draft a goalie in the 7th round (205th overall) thinking you've found your franchise netminder.  Just like the New England Patriots got lucky with Tom Brady (6th round, 199th overall), the Rangers struck gold with Lundqvist.  I'm not knocking them for it...more just saying that I don't want to hear revisionist historians now make it sound like Sather knew something everyone else didn't.  If Sather or anyone else know Lundqvist had a definite future as a reliable top-tier #1 goalie, no way anyone takes a chance on him slipping through their fingers when he's there for the taking in the 3rd round, 4th round, etc. 

 

But enough of that...I don't want to go into pure "sour grapes" mode.  Yeah, the Rags are in the SCF.  Yeah, I hate that they are.  Yeah, I hate that the pendulum has swung the other way.  I'm not going to start spewing accolates, but at the same time, I don't want to now start downplaying or minimizing what the Rangers have done to make me feel better about myself or the Devils.  The Rangers have accomplished what they've accomplished, and all of the "yeah but"s we try to attach to what they've done won't change anything.  They faced who they faced and they beat them.   

 

For me, now it's about wondering what the Devils have to do to get back to where they were...actually, in today's NHL, it's what can the Devils do to get themselves back into the playoffs (where seemingly anything can happen)?  I'll always hate the Rangers and the majority of their fans for the reasons I've stated multiple times, but now, instead of worrying about them (though I'll be rooting VERY hard for their SCF opponent), I'm going to concern myself with how do the Devils get back to being what they were (with new faces), regardless of the amount of time it takes them to get there.  Hopefully that starts with Lou NOT re-signing Gio and Marty.            


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#1265469 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs thread

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 25 May 2014 - 06:48 AM

Well, I did that after we lost to you in 2012. Agreed completely on the format. It's disappointing how much NBC/CBC spread out the series. It's the Conference Finals and it's being treated like the NBA. It hurts each series. I knew we would lose Game 3. That extra day benefited the Habs. Maybe this time around, it helps the Rangers with Brassard. My gut feeling is the Game 4 winner will advance. I am definitely concerned. Especially if Stepan can't go.

 

In 2000, I went for Dallas. But it would've been nice to see Buffalo beat them the year before. For LOTCB (Brian). Nobody has had it tougher than him. Neither of our sides have had to deal with as much heartache as Sabres fans. Same for Blues. They are mirror images. In 2003, I wanted Ottawa of course. But once you made it, I knew they wouldn't lose to Anaheim. Especially in Game 7.

 

Biggest rival? It depends who you ask. The old-time fan will say the Islanders. It's sad that they won't be on Long Island anymore. Barclays is not great. If you're going off recent history, it's the Devils. The hatred is pretty intense. But it's more Devils fans. Personally, I hate the Pens the most. That series game me more satisfaction than what they did in 2012. I can't stand them. The Crosby network. The league ignoring what their stars get away with. Mario Lemieux. They are the definition of loathsome. I can't respect guys like Neal and Kunitz. Crosby will never compare to Toews. He's not a true leader. Would a real superstar vanish as frequently as he has when teams play him tough? Don't forget the Flyers even though the first round series lacked emotion. It was weird.

 

I'm not sure I answered your question. But you might want to rethink how our fanbase feels towards the Pens.

 

I think with some teams, you have your long-time rivals, the Hadfields to your McCoys.  For you, I think it's the Islanders...it doesn't matter if both teams are good, both are bad, or only one is relevant...the hatred is always there, and those games have a way of stirring up their fanbases.  The Devils have become a similar entity for you for sure.  That absurd regular-season unbeaten streak the Devils enjoyed at the Rangers' expense had to have added to the hatred on your side (just like the Devils losing to them in the playoffs in '92, '94 and '97 did to us).  

 

On our side, I think it's the Rangers and the Flyers, especially since there's been a fair number of memorable playoff matchups over the last 20 years.  I attended the elimination game in 2008, and it was beyond awful...Avery doing his thing and actually succeeding, Ranger fans coming into the building and taking over while the Devils fans in attendance just sat there and let it happen...just sucked on every level.  One of my lowest and most disappointing moments as a Devils fan.  I don't really let awful moments like that linger on and on, but 2008 (losing to the Rangers in five), 2009 (losing to the 'Canes in seven in murderously excruciating fashion), and 2010 (getting waxed by the Flyers in five) were rough...especially since each series looked very similar at times, with the Devils looking 2-3 steps slower than their opponent, unable to receive passes cleanly, looking easily overwhelmed.  And when you factor in that the Devils were now meekly and almost routinely losing playoff series in five games (Flyers in 2004, 'Canes in the second round in 2006, Ottawa in 2007), though it's clearly always great to make the playoffs at all, the Devils had become a relatively easy out.  And the less said about 2011 (10-29-2 first half), the better.  2012 and beating both the Flyers AND the Rangers in winning the Eastern Conference was almost NEEDED at that point.  It allowed us all to wash the lingering bad tastes of 2004, 2008, and 2010 and the recent poor playoff performances out of our mouths, almost all at once.  That season still would have been terrific no matter who the Devils faced to get to the SCF, but there was something very catharic about beating the Flyers and Rangers to get there.

 

Anyway, I think the Pens have kind of become a "short-term" rival for you.  That can happen for a number of reasons...a particularly bloody playoff series, a succession of chippy games played against each other, a relatively high frequency of playoff matchups in a relatively short period of time, etc.  At times for the Devils, that's been the Leafs, the 'Canes, the Senators...the ironic thing is the Devils have actually held their own against the Pens in the regular season, so much so that their fans were afraid of facing the Devils in the playoffs this season...though I don't like Crosby or the Pens (I hate that they just luck/tank their way into getting generational talents), I don't really put in them in the fierce rival category.  The 'Canes have become a rival mostly by virtue of having beaten the Devils in the playoffs in 2002, 2006, and 2009...and I've never been a fan of Batboy Eric Staal.  THAT'S a team the Devils really need to beat whenever they meet again in the playoffs, for sanity's sake. 


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#1265347 2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs thread

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 23 May 2014 - 06:18 AM

Just how many assumptions are included here?
My family has lived on Central Jersey since 1760. And I've probably been to 200 Devils games.
As a member of this board from inception, the level of discourse in this thread has reached embarrassing ly low level.
If all you have to bring to the conversation is antipathy to the Rangers you may not be alone, but certainly not adding to anyone's understanding or appreciation of the game of hockey.

 

 

It's not like I'm constantly spewing Ranger hatred on these boards.  I've talked about it at times, as have others.  This all really started with Manta, who I get along with fine most of the time...his saying that he was "cheering" for the Rangers was bound to get some kind of reaction, in that it's an extremely unusual thing to say for a Devil fan.  That shouldn't be so hard to grasp.

 

Also shouldn't be so hard to grasp that many Devils fans (many of the ones I've met, anyway...I don't pretend to know every single Devils fan in NJ) really despise the Rangers.  Like I've said, for a lot of the Devils' fans, the Rangers are our chief rival.  Is that really so far-fetched? 

 

What exactly are YOU bringing to this discussion, other than a hall-monitor mentality?  I wasn't aware it was everyone's job to add to everyone's understanding or appreciation of the game of hockey through their posts.  Sometimes posts are made based more on raw emotions than anything else.        


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#1265088 Confronting the Nightmare - UPDATE: NIGHTMARE OVER, KINGS WIN!

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 21 May 2014 - 09:42 AM

OK -- now lets have a more honest, less "Because we're better fans than you" defensive sort of response to point's post.

 

It's more like type A type B personalities.  It certainly isn't better or more invested fans.

 

Some people gain added enjoyment with upping the stakes.  Rivalries amp up the impact of the sport for some people.  Each individual game isn't enough -- there needs to be over-arching foes and fictional complications.  Like people who really enjoy added drama in their lives.  These personality types will gain from hating specific teams long-term and holding grudges.

 

Others are equally passionate, but on a game by game basis.  Each foe is equally dangerous and loathsome until conquered. There doesn't need to be an over-arching story line to maintain interest and passion. I think this sort of connection to a team is more difficult to maintain personally.  You have to be able to plug in and out pretty quickly.  I admit my brain is really more this way but in my gut, I get afraid that if I let things go after they're done I'll lose touch -- I'll lose my fan high. 

 

There wasn't anything dishonest or defensive about my post at all.  I think it was a pretty fair explanation about why a lot of Devils fans despise everything Ranger-related.  I didn't attack point's level of fandom...I didn't even mention it.  Never said I was a better fan than him...but at the same time, even if he doesn't agree with MD2020 and others, he should at least be able to understand why some Devils fans passionately hate the Rangers without someone having to tell him.   

 

I don't need you to psychoanalyze the reasons why I happen to hate the Rangers...you of all people shouldn't be trying to get into anyone's heads.  It's not like the Devils haven't had fierce rivalries with other teams (Flyers, Hurricanes), but I don't hate the Flyers really, or the Hurricanes (and the Devils/Flyers rivarly has been an intense one, especially when the Rangers were irrelevant there for a while).  Sorry, hating the Rangers doesn't mean I'm like people who are constantly on the lookout for extra drama in their lives...that's a ridiculous connection to try to make.  I don't need any over-arching story lines or any of that crap...I watch as many Devils games as I possibly can, and I'm pretty equally passionate about all of them as I'm watching.  Yeah, there's always a little more juice with some teams, either because of rivalries or something more being at stake (like standings or a playoff position).  But I think that's all sports.  There's always going to be rivalry games that mean just a little more on the schedule to fans than others, and there's no deep reasons for it, other than "They're the bad guys."  Even if they're not really "bad".   


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#1265075 Confronting the Nightmare - UPDATE: NIGHTMARE OVER, KINGS WIN!

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 21 May 2014 - 07:01 AM

I go to bed every night with a NYR fan whom I hauled to CAA for THREE SCF. She hasn't given me any grief over the NJD, and I watch the NYR as a fairly disinterested observer.
Why are so many posters in such a pantytwist over theRags? Get over it!

 

Not sure why you should need this explained to you, but I'll give it a try:

 

Many of us find Ranger fans both dumb and annoying; to be fair, it doesn't sound like your sig other is one of them.

 

It's been discussed in detail WHY so many of us find Ranger fans dumb and annoying.  They make the same tired jokes over and over again.  They think that the Rangers, by virtue of playing in New York, somehow makes that franchise the NHL equivalent of the New York Yankees...they talk about proud traditions, etc., when they've been much closer to the Cubs overall than the Yankees.  The one tradition they've proven to be very good at is celebrating one bought Cup win over and over and over again...Rangers basically emptied out the farm to win that '94 Cup, and that "all in" approach, while successful, cost them for years.  But as many have pointed out, no other franchise has ever re-celebrated a Cup win as shamelessly and as embarrassingly as the Rangers franchise and their fans. 

 

In 2012, after they lost to the Devils in Game 6 in the ECF, there were boneheads saying things like "Duuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh, unless da Debbies (they think it's just hilarious when they call the Devils "the Debbies") win da Cup, it don't matta, 'cause in ninedy-fawr, we won da Cup afta beading dem in da Eastewn Cawnfurence Finawls!"  Those losers STILL think NHL hockey stopped for everyone else in '94, just like it did for them.  I made the mistake of trying to explain to a bunch of them that losing to the Rangers in the '94 ECF wasn't exactly haunting Devils fans anymore...we saw the team win the Cup the very next season, saw them win again in 2000 and 2003, come within a game of winning another Cup in 2001, and watched the Devils reach the SCF in 2012 at the Rangers' expense.  Nope, for those stupid fans (and the Ranger fanbase is by far the most collectively stupid one I've dealt with), it was ninedy-fawr, ninedy-fawr, ninedy-fawr.  I used to participate on the ESPN boards back in 2000 and 2001, and the idiot Ranger fans who used to post there were constantly talking about how boring the Devils were, and how more teams need to play "exciting" hockey like the Rangers.  Yeah, that 2001 Devils team, the one that led in the NHL in goals scored, the one that boasted two 40+ goal scorers, they sure were sleep-inducing.  And the Rangers absolutely SUCKED at that time...they were playing with absolutely ZERO heart and ZERO passion back then.  That organization was a complete joke, but Ranger fans couldn't flock fast enough to MSG to watch that trainwreck.  Way to give the man upstairs incentive to change things up geniuses!

 

And of course, I had my fun MSG bathroom experience where, to sum up, a guy made a joke directed at me about the Devils, I made one back, and while I was peeing, he thought it'd be a swell idea to get out of line and hit me in the back of the head three times.  I wound up winning the fight that resulted (I tried to walk away, but the guy wouldn't allow it), but I rather would've not fought at all. 

 

I hate the Rangers and the majority of their fanbase.  Yes, right now they're better than the Devils, but that doesn't mean any of us have to like it.  I'm not going to constantly bitch about them or try to downplay what they're doing, but if you honestly think that Ranger fans wouldn't have their "panties in a twist" over the Devils having this success if the roles were reversed, then I don't what to tell you.  For the most part, we hate everything about the Rangers, and they hate everything about us.  There's rivalries like that in all of sports, and for the true-blue diehard Devils fans, this ranks right up with the Red Sox-Yankee level of hatred, and it will NEVER change.        


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