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#1188811 Let's Give Elias His Due Tonight

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 25 April 2013 - 12:02 PM

Great post DR33. 


Regardless of what happens with Elias next season, (short of some kind of falling out, which I seriously doubt will occur), no one's wearing #26 for the Devils ever again, and that's how it should be...I don't think there is any doubt about this.  #4, #3, #27, #30 and #26 all belong up in the rafters...five very special players deserving of that honor.     

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#1188367 Brodeur on the cover of NHL14 !!!

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 23 April 2013 - 06:57 AM

Why would a video game franchise put the current worst goalie in the league on its cover?


C'mon man, you are getting ridiculous with the hatred.  The worst goalie?  There's guys who have been worse, but that's not the point.  Marty has been one of the elite goalies for a very long time, incredibly consistent and durable, right up to the '09-'10 season.  His save% through that year actually IMPROVED after the lockout...you know, the lockout that was supposed to "expose" him.  No, the last few years haven't been as good, and he's clearly not what he was...even the most ardent Brodeur supporters (like me) won't argue that, and though I know it's probably not going to happen, I really wouldn't mind seeing Brodeur retire after this season.  For one, I don't think he has anything left to prove.  For another, based on the last three years, I don't see how he's going to play much better than he is right now (even factoring in his overall good play in the SCF run last season), and his current level of play simply isn't good enough for a team that sadly looks like it's going to need elite play from that position to compete in the short term.


This is how it tends to go with the big names and the all-time greats...they have a hard time accepting that they're not what they were, but if you're going to blame Marty for that, you can blame Lou too...it was probably a bit of a "lifetime achievement" contract on Lou's part, giving Marty a two-year deal, but when you consider all Marty has done for the organization since his career took off, I don't know how you can grow to blast him with such hatred over and over.  All you have to do is look at a team like the Flyers...look at all of the "Number 1" goalies they've had since Marty became the man for NJ.  You had almost two decades where you knew who your starting goalie was going to be, and you knew that, just about every season, you were going to get good-to-great play from that position.  He had some years that were better than others, but you never had to suffer through a bad Marty season when he was in his prime, and that prime lasted from 1993 to 2010, with almost no injuries to boot.  There isn't a team in the NHL who wouldn't have KILLED to have had a guy like that, a guy who was so friggin' dependable and durable. 


Yeah, sadly, it's starting to get a little ugly, but like I've said in other threads, part of what makes the greats what they are is what probably makes them stubborn towards the end of their careers.  I'm guessing if you were able to ask Marty if he still thought he's got something left and can have a better season in '13-'14, he'd tell you yes, absolutely.  His believing that will probably put Lou and the franchise in an awkward position next year, and if Marty starts slowly next year, the vultures are going to start circling, calling Marty selfish, delusional, washed-up, etc...that would be painful to watch, but just like when perenially good teams tend to crash hard and ugly, the same thing tends to happen with the all-time greats. 


Instead of taking the "What have you done for me lately?" approach, take a step back and realize how lucky you were to have a guy like Marty play for your team for so long.  A guy who gave you everything he had on the ice, and tried to do his best by the organization off it.  No, he wasn't always perfect, but perfection doesn't exist.  Very soon the Devils will be another team that could be living year-to-year with their goalies...maybe we'll get lucky and the Devils will find another long-term goalie they can count on for a while, but good luck finding a guy who's capable of appearing in 70+ games in 12 different seasons, helping his team win multiple Cups, and who was certain skillsets so strong and dominating that the NHL will feel the need to make rule changes to minimize those skills.   


If you're not happy with Marty's current level of play, that's one thing, but to be so flat-out disrespectful and mean-spirited about it...I don't get that at all.   

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#1188132 It's a Man's Game (Devils Rangers 4/21/13)

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 22 April 2013 - 08:01 AM

Crappy way to end the season.  Outside of that nice 8-1-3 start, this was a pretty craptacular NHL season for Devils fans for sure. 


Some people will point to bad luck, some will point to individual players, some to Lou, some to Parise's departure...but suffice it to say there's plenty of blame to go around.  The problems are pretty simple, and we know what they all are:  they can't score and they can't stop the puck. 


All you need to know about Marty is that he ranks 11th in GAA (2.23) and 39th in save% (.900).  The latter number is bad, and the former was clearly buoyed by the low volume of shots he faced.  And the flat-out low save%s is continuation of a trend that is now on its 3rd season.  I'd be surprised if he retires after this off-season, but I really do hope Lou and him have a sitdown, because though he deserves to try to exit the game on good terms, he can't go into next season as the unquestioned #1.  If the Devils are going to be a club that struggles to score goals (and it looks like they will be for the short term...probably not as bad as they were this season, but I would think bottom half of the league for sure, likely bottom third), then the simple reality is, Lou needs to find someone who has a reasonable shot to stop .915-.920 of the shots heading his way.  Such a goalie currently doesn't play for the Devils.  I'm not going to get into picking apart Marty's quotes and killing him, but at the same time, I think this season showed conclusively that Lou can't just throw Marty out there next season and hope that he suddenly finds the Fountain of Youth.  But I hope Marty realizes it too, because next year can go one of two ways...he can leave the game on reasonable terms, or he can pull a Messier and make things awkward for everyone, from the fans to his teammates to his GM to ownership.  The sad fact is that some all-time greats have a hard time realizing that they've declined, and think they have that one last good season left in them.  This off-season will go a long way in establishing whether Marty is willing or able to see that he simply shouldn't think of himself as THE guy anymore.  I hope he does, because I don't think anyone associated with the Devils wants to be the one to tell him that painful truth.  I think they're all hoping he will come to this conclusion almost completely on his own.    


Can't help but wonder what will happen with Elias too.  Since he signed his big contract, he has been good for 25 goals per 82 game block on average (regular season only)...no, Elias' value is clearly not measured on goals alone.  But he's 37 and probably not going to get better, and if the Devils re-sign him, I am going to guess that they will do it thinking he's going to be one of their go-to scorers.  If the Devils want to keep him, I am OK with it, as long as it's not for more than two years, and as long as he's not being paid like he's a guy who the Devils should count on for primary scoring.  He should be looked at as a secondary scorer for the stage of his career he's about to enter...if someone wants to pay him as though he can do more than that, in both years and dollars, then Lou should let him go.  I know some fans will feel like Elias should never leave, and that other fans will point out that an immediate Elias replacement or a player like him may be hard to find in the short term, but the last thing the Devils need is another overpaid star on the decline.  Lou needs to tread carefully on this one.

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#1182438 GDT New Jersey Devils vs. The Isles 7pm MSG+

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 02 April 2013 - 06:41 AM

i'll say it again willing to get some "ah give me a fvcking break" or "let it go".


but again... last year Deboer and the staff put a C on a guy who they called the "heart and soul" of the team, he was also part of every part of the game that made us successful in a long run.


and he's gone and Lou didnt replace ANY parts of what he was bringing either production wise or intangible wise... then slapped the C on a useless dman who should get scratch on most night.


so don't call me out on this cause it's absolutely true and anyone denying it is simply in denial now. The stats or wtv what you want to look at will agree with it. Its not "no big deal" to lose your "heart and soul" coaches doesnt throw those names around cause it sounds cute, it was legit.


OK, I'll say it:








You've beaten this dead horse to the point where there is absolutely nothing left to beat.  Most Devils fans didn't think it was going to be business as usual after Parise left...a lot of us knew it was going to hurt.  But life goes on.  I know, you think Lou should've just been able to replace Parise or parts of Parise's skillsets in the course of one off-season.  Clearly this going to take him some time.  Are the Devils better off right now?  No, but for some reason you seem to think you're the only one who was able to see this...like I said, I think almost to a fan we all knew losing Parise was going to hurt.  Will the Devils be better off in the future?  Probably, based on the absurdity of Parise's contract. 



Anyway, seriously, stop acting like you're being so profound here.  YES, THE DEVILS WERE HURT BY THE LOSS OF PARISE FOR 2013.  And you're not the only one to see it.  Lamenting it over and over and OVER again as annoyingly as possible won't change that fact either. 


Can we move on now, and start wondering how the Devils turn this season around with the players that they DO have? 

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#1181004 Jagr?

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 27 March 2013 - 02:33 PM

Bossy averaged 59.4 goals per season in a nine-year period, and was a career 21.2% shooter.  I know it was a different era and a different game, but in a word...DAMN! 


Those Cup-winning Islanders were really something else...in that 4-Cup burst (back then it took 15 wins to take the Cup, as the first round was only best-of-five), they went 60-19, only losing between 3 and 6 games total in each playoff season.  Once again...DAMN! 

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#1179455 GDT 3/19/13: NY Rags @ Devils

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 20 March 2013 - 10:18 AM

Well that's Lou's job to figure it out not mine. But wtv he did or didnt do isnt working out. and i'd assume Lou said HIMSELF "you just CAN'T replace a guy like Zach." but it could be "Don't" cause thats clearly what he did... he didnt get anyone to at least try to fill that production from Zach and Sykora. It works to make small acquisition to patch things on trade deadline just to boost your team... but we lost a 30 and a  20 goals scorer and he simply didnt bring anyone that could come close to patch for that lack. It's a fact, he didnt. I guess he assumed Zajac's production since he's back would be enough, i guess he thought having like 6 4th line players should do to. 


Exactly, so stop trying to make it sound like it's so friggin' simple and that Lou should've just been able to easily replace both players .  Lou is thorough and I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one...I am guessing he didn't see anyone to his liking enough to overpay (which is what tends to happen when bringing in UFAs).  So be it.  Sometime the quick fix just isn't there.  I can understand his thinking re: Zajac...it's hard to believe that he has four assists in 30 GP.  I don't know a soul on Earth who could've seen THAT coming.  I would think by this point, he'd have 10 or so by accident.    


Though lack of scoring has clearly hurt the Devils, when you have a goalie putting up an .886% in 17 starts, it's going to make for some rough going.  Your complaining is built on a faulty premise, that quick and obvious solutions are always there, if only a guy like Lou was observant enough to see them all.  You may want to look at the other side of that coin, and realize that maybe, just maybe, a guy like Lou is smart enough to see that quick and obvious solutions WEREN'T there this off-season.  The fact remains, you've seen your team get to five Finals and miss the playoffs three times since '88-'89.  Some seasons it doesn't all fall into place, and this one's not over yet.   


Not saying Lou is perfect...no GM is or ever will be.  He's had his share of follies and moves that seemed good on paper, but just didn't work out.    

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#1179146 Perry signs 8 year extension with Ducks

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 19 March 2013 - 06:38 AM

So now everyone will want to go after Ryan lol

I hope Lou is taking note on how to keep your top players


Seriously, on this one, shut up.  LET IT GO.  Lou knows more about being a GM than you or I or any other Devils fans could ever hope to forget, and you really need to stop looking at the whole Parise situation like it was so simple, and that you could've somehow handled it better than the guy who has seen his team win 3 Cups (and get to five Finals), and missed the playoff just three times in his tenure.  sh!t happens to ALL GMs, not just Lou.  Yes, the Devils clearly miss Parise, especially now that the puck isn't going in for Clarkson anymore.  But NO GM bats 1.000 in these situations, and even if it hurts right now, the idea of both Kovalchuk and Parise playing for the Devils under lifetime contracts is pretty scary to me...I'm glad that Parise isn't under contract to the Devils for 13 seasons. 


Is Lou perfect?  Of course not.  But I think he deserves more respect than you seem willing to give him.  A lot more.    

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#1174409 Well DiPietro didnt took it too well...

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 01 March 2013 - 07:54 AM

Well, I misunderstood you. My mistake.



I get it, trust me. I'm definitely not a person who thinks mental illness isn't real or is less real than physical illness. I've seen addiction, depression, and other mental illness destroy people and their family's, I don't doubt their power.

I just don't see how poor depressed person=rich depressed person. If I got to choose, I'd choose rich depressed person every time and I think every person here would.

No matter how bad life gets for DP, he, as I said, can still go travel the world to make him feel better, he can buy any item on the planet basically. I just don't feel for a wealthy, physically talented person just because he didn't quite "make it". There's billions of people in this world who live with the fact that they aren't doing what they love everyday or aren't at the pinnacle of their field. Why should I feel any extra bad for DP? He has a lot more opportunity and ability to do what he wants than most, if not, all of those people.


You know nothing about this...I'm not saying that to flame you, but you don't.  If you're suffering from depression, it doesn't matter what you have at your means, if you're not getting help for your depression.  Travelling the world or having the ability to buy whatever you want whenever you want doesn't make depression go away, or make you feel better.  Money doesn't correlate to this at all.   


I'm not saying this is the case with you, but a lot of people who don't really know much about depression think it's just a case of "Well, take inventory of all of the good things in your life, now stop feeling sorry for yourself, depression over...don't worry, be happy."  Depressed people don't WANT to feel the way that they do; if anything, most of them are puzzled by the presence of the stranger that is inhabiting them, the one that is seemingly darkening their vision and stripping the joy out of everything around them.  Lack of understanding from many around them is definitely a problem...a lot of people who haven't been through it tend to trivialize it. 

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#1174179 Well DiPietro didnt took it too well...

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 28 February 2013 - 04:15 PM

From what I hear depression is a bitch. When someone says they want to kill themselves you take it seriously.


Depression is no joke.  I have been there more than once.  I told my story on here a while ago, in the hopes that just one person who might think it's just a question of "cheering up" or "riding it out" might get help. 


It doesn't matter how much money you have, how easy your life might seem on the surface, or how many good things you have that outsiders think you should be able to appreciate.  When you're in the throes of a real depression, you don't see those things at all.  You are not thinking rationally about anything.  You are in constant physical and mental pain.  You feel like there is no way out and no end to the misery, and it is difficult to try to explain what you are feeling to others.  You struggle to find enjoyment in anything.  In a room for of people, even friends, you feel alone, and overwhelmingly so.  The saddest thoughts have a way of invading your mind at the most random intervals.  You don't react normally to outside stimuli.  Concentrating on even menial tasks can be trying.  A sad song on the radio can put you into a funk for days.  You can find yourself fighting back tears for no reason at all, no matter how "well" your life might be going, no matter how sunny the skies above. 


Hopefully, DiPietro got help.  Like mrthemike said, when someone says they're suicidal, you don't wave it off as a ploy for attention, or someone feeling sorry for themselves.  Yes, some people will do it as a cry for attention, but several others say it with the intention of really following through. 

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#1170891 PoniKoravski traded back to Devils. Zubrus to miss 2-8 Weeks

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 14 February 2013 - 10:11 AM

Was just listening to boomer and carton and when it was announced that the devils got poni back boomer exclaims "they brought Ponikarovsky back!? That's a panic move by Lou! The guy on the show who usually does the quick around the world of sports thing (sounds a bit like don le greca) says in response "no it is not are you kidding me?" And boomer says "of course it is they just gave up 4 goals at home the other night." From here carton starts flapping his jaw and starts making fun of the pronunciation of poni's name. The conversation then went back to boomer saying that Deboer needed to be fired cause here is no reason a team should allow 4 goals on home ice. He said he would be shocked if Deboer is still coaching come playoff time. They finished the convo saying its nice to see the devils doing so good with attendance. But man, was it one of thee most asinine conversations about the devils I've heard in a while.


Doesn't sound like there was much said that was terribly serious during that conversation.  I wouldn't really make much out of that.

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#1167580 Devils Fans

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 31 January 2013 - 12:32 PM

You are right........have to do some research when I get home. I could have sworn that one of their teams one year had the most goals a team had had in a 10-15 year period. Anyway, the guy still annoyed me.

Not debating the bolded...he annoyed me by proxy :giggle:
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#1167112 Matt anderson called up

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 29 January 2013 - 01:44 PM

You're not really understanding. Josefson isn't 'showing he can play at the NHL level'. He's on the first unit on the PK. For forwards 21 and under, he's near the top 10 of ice time per game. That's why I think the idea that he's 'a little behind where he was expected to be' is ridiculous. The Devils expected a guy they drafted in 2009 would be playing in all situations 15 minutes a game in 2012-13? I'm sure they hoped that, I have a hard time believing they expected better.

I am understanding fine, but this seems to be one of those Triumph moments where you've got to be contradictory and try to prove you're the smartest guy in all matters hockey. Part of the increased ice time is clearly due to Zach leaving and lack of depth...it's out of necessity. Part of the reason he's getting this chance is the same reason Tedenby got his...the Devils are hoping the young guys can step up. Didn't work with Teddy, but Josefson is clearly a much better bet to stick around and get better. He'd have to tank to get sent back to Albany.

Yes, Josefson is doing some very good things, but yes, I think the games he missed hurt, especially from an offensive standpoint, developmentally. He can use all the experience he can get. Clearly you don't agree.
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#1166574 GDT: New Jersey Gionta @ Montreal Gionta

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 27 January 2013 - 07:52 PM

Well now we are playing like we want to win..at least get a point.

They're not going to have it going every night, and even with the 3-0-0 start, it's still hard to say what this team is...they're not exactly loaded with forwards.

I know you're one of the big offenders, in that you think every game on the schedule is a winnable entity, and every loss is to be picked apart and all decisions second-guessed, but the Devils are not going to win every game. If anything, I think it's pretty amazing they're even in this one...clearly it's not all clicking for them tonight.
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#1165456 Evan Roberts Is Awesome

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 23 January 2013 - 02:05 PM

Hey, if the Rangers win the Cup this year, is it only half a cup? I mean, I'm just using their logic (and I use that term very loosely when it comes to Ranger fans) here lol. I mean, they all went out of their way to discredit the '95 Cup, so I'm wondering if that would be the case if they won this year. My guess is they'd be changing their tune on that real quick.

The morning of June 25, 1995, I went into a bagel shop in Clifton, NJ. The chubby, hairy, doofusy Guido behind the counter immediately said "Oh yeah, now you guys all come outta da woodwork!" I said "Nope, I've always rooted for the Devils, always will." He said "Yea, well, dat series wuz fixed, you know it was." (He was NOT kidding, he was deadly serious.) I said something like "Yep, that's brilliant, guess you have a lot to think about while making those bagels all day long. Don't worry, 2048 will be here before you know it, you'll see your beloved wittle Wain-jurz win anutta Cup den!" I usually don't get into like that, especially then (I was quite skinny then...that was before I started working out), but the guy was just such a miserable a$$hole, and such a typical Ranger fan. He didn't say much after that, and I made sure someone else made my bagel, so he couldn't add any extra flavor to it. Probably still making bagels and wondering what happened.
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#1165428 Evan Roberts Is Awesome

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 23 January 2013 - 01:05 PM

Always and forever the dumbest fanbase in the NHL. There's no shortage of Rangers fans willing to prove that on an almost-daily basis. That call to Evan is as about across-the-board, as far as the Ranger fan mentality goes, as it gets.

Evan should know that in Rangerland, anything that happened in the NHL after '94 never really did. The Devils never won in '95, the Avs never won in '96, etc etc...the '94 Cup just gets celebrated over and over again, and that's the only Cup that matters. No other organization and fanbase has ever been as pathetic as the Rangers in this regard. I don't hear Jet fans constantly bringing up '69 or finding reasons to relive that one. The Mets occasionally bring up '86, but not nearly to the extent that the Ranger franchise and fans mention '94. I've said this before, but there's a large contingent of Ranger fans who still think Matteau still haunts Devils fans. If the Devils hadn't gotten to five SC Finals and won three of them, I could understand that. But like I've said, in Rangerland, time stopped at '94. So sad, so brutally pathetic. A bunch of douchbags with God-awful Noo Yawk accents. Bleech!
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