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#1259719 Brodeur: Devils have accepted mediocrity

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 09 April 2014 - 04:25 PM

On one hand, he's not wrong, but on the other, I really don't want to hear it from a guy who's been a big part of the mediocrity the past two seasons either.  Sometimes it almost feels like he's daring his teammates to call him out as he's calling them out.

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#1258975 Kenny Agostino

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 07 April 2014 - 07:02 AM

Yeah I don't know what it is with these kids from Jersey growing up Rag fans. The Devils have been a superior organization in every way for 20 years. These kids are just fvcking stupid I guess.


Bad parenting...and a lot of "You're too young to remember/you weren't even born yet, but back in 1994..."

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#1256186 Brodeur Article, name dropping where he might want to play, reveals wh

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 27 March 2014 - 12:06 PM



Jesus H, it's enough already!  Your team is on the outskirts of a playoff race, but isn't 100% dead just yet.  Can you just say "I'm still focused on the present. and what's happening here..the future will work itself out soon enough, but right now I'm still a Devil." or something to that effect?  PLEASE?!

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#1255638 The Edmonton Oilers Bottom Out

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 24 March 2014 - 12:24 PM

Teams are way too fast to rebuild in the NHL. A rebuild could mean 25 years of failure. It's never worth the risk. Keep your team, add some pieces, stay afloat, draft well and even a bad team can turn it around.


People often have different definitions of what a 'rebuild' is. Is it trading away your star player Is there a certain number of players you have to trade? I think most people see it as the unloading a good chunk of your top 6 forwards and top 2 D-men. Doing this all at once is pointless - why tank yourself for years to come? Rebuild as you replace (over time), like most teams do a la NJ.


In bolded:  for me, the rebuild alarm goes off when a team bottoms out, Devils 2010-11-style, over the course of at least one full season (I say 'at least' because some teams might think a singular disastrous season might be a fluke), and the GM decides that he is no longer spending more money to augment a bad core that is either aging or simply run its course. 


Clearly, the Devils are not in this kind of position (big difference between being 5 points out of a playoff spot, as opposed to 15+ and never being a factor), but you do wonder what this core is going to be going forward:


Schneider (if he re-signs, and we don't really know what kind of playoff goalie he is yet)



Clowe (due to contract)






A lot of guys who are here now won't be much longer (especially all of the 30-somethings), which is why I don't have them listed .  Zids and Jagr could be gone this offseason.  Elias has two years left after this one...maybe he re-signs after that...too soon to tell, impossible to predict the future of late 30-somethings.  Zubrus also has two years after this one and is almost certain not to get re-signed.  Won't surprise me if Lou tries to move him this offseason.   


The big question is does this list look like the beginnings of a "you can build around this" kind of core.  If all of the defenseman pan out (Greene has quietly become a nice reliable vet, which is why I have him on the core list...I get the feeling Lou will keep him here), then you can argue that it does.  But some of the current forwards clearly have to go. 


One thing to keep in mind:  a LOT of the current contracts on the books come off within two years.  This is good, in that it won't be as hard for Lou (or whomever) to change this team up as it sometimes feels: 


UFAs in 2014:  Jagr, Zids, Carter, Bernier, Gionta, Fayne, Brodeur   RFAs:  Josefson, Gelinas

UFAs in 2015:  Schneider, Ryder, Brunner, Sestito, Salvador, Greene, Harrold  

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#1254968 Of all the times Lou has curiously fired coaches out of the blue

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 21 March 2014 - 03:45 PM

mouse, I posted my feelings about Marty and Lou when things were looking rough in the beginning of 2012, when Marty was stuck in the .880s and looking like he was done...how it was sad to see two of the best at what they do finally succumbing to the wrath of time.  Both Lou and Marty were starting to get hammered pretty regularly.  Then it turned around...which maybe shouldn't have been that big of a surprise once Kovy and Parise hit their strides, and Clarkson enjoyed one of the most fortuitous seasons of puck luck ever.  It's actually comical that he can be called "30-goal scorer David Clarkson" and have it be TRUE. 


We know the situation with Marty...he'll never have half-seasons of .920+ play again, the way he did in 2011 and 2012.  And now he seems ticked off and cranky to boot, and I have no idea why.  Did he really want out of here that badly?  It sucks and I can't wait for that to be over.


As for Lou...I'd be stunned if he was fired, or resigned on his own, so I think he's back here next season.  We'll know very soon where his head is.  If he talks about liking his team and/or talks about bringing back Marty, I'm going to find it damned near impossible to defend him on either count. 

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#1254884 Of all the times Lou has curiously fired coaches out of the blue

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 21 March 2014 - 12:44 PM

I question some of Deboers personnel decisions and how he handles some situations, but otherwise he's a great motivator and has kept this mediocre team believing and playing hard. I absolutely think he should be kept.


As for Lou, he has his problems and makes his mistakes, but you'd be hard pressed to find another GM outside of Detroit who has kept a team as competitive as he has for as long as he has. He's done a lot through years of limited budgets back in the McMullen days and usually drafting in the last 10 picks of the first round. There will be a lot that changes for the better when he leaves, and a lot that may get worse as well.


In PDB's case, before I could think about canning him, I'd have to see what else is out there.  Laviolette?  He's got a solid record from a pure wins and losses standpoint, and led a team to a Cup, though the league was so screwed up in that first season back after the strike that I really don't make that much of that Cup win.  I guess you can make an argument for giving Laviolette a shot, but I don't know how much of a difference he'd ultimately make.  It would feel like change for change's sake.  Like you say, the one thing you can say in PDB's defense is his team does TRY..they may not always look good doing it, but it does look like they're trying to me.     


Re:  Lou...the two main arguments you can make for him being fired are that maybe he's simply been here too long and now it's time for a change, and that a new GM coming in here without loyalties to any of the current players might be more willing to truly shake things up.  The fact that some people do want him canned is actually a testament to how long this team has been competitive.  Missing the playoffs in potentially three out of four seasons is a major shock to a lot of Devils fans' systems, and this is Lou's first real down period in over 25 years on the job.  How many GMs last even 10 years in their positions, let alone 20+? 


On one hand, you look at a guy who has Lou's insanely overall terrific track record and say "He should get a chance to turn this around."  But I'd be lying through my teeth if I said I felt 100% confident that Lou can turn this around.  I honestly don't know.  It's going to take some serious creativity to change and improve this roster, especially since there's a fair number of forwards here that don't exactly have loads of trade value.  I really hope Marty is not back next year...nothing against him, but I think his presence is becoming more overwhelming by the day, and not in a good way.  If Lou brings him back, then I think he's truly stuck in the past.  I've said that Lou keeping Marty around would be his equivalent to jumping the shark, and if that happens, I don't really know how much I can believe in him anymore. 


I also can't say that the idea of the post-Lou Devils doesn't intrigue me.  It does.  It will be such upheaval...Jesus, for just about every Devil fan, Lou practically IS the Devils!  As much as I can't imagine him not being the GM, I'm still curious about what his not being around could potentially mean.  Better?  Worse?  I'm not as afraid or saddened by the idea of chance as I am curious. 


So basically, I won't be angry if they're both back next season, but I won't be saddened if they're both gone either.  Like Tom McVie once said when he asked about being an interim coach:  "It's always on an interim basis."  Same for GMs I guess.  It's so weird to even think that Lou won't be here someday...I don't even really know how to process the idea. 

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#1253502 Devils joining the hockey analytics movement

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 18 March 2014 - 10:12 AM

Wonder if Triumph applied for the position?


Background in Fenwick, Corsi, Fensi, Forsi, Corwick, Fencor, and Corsiwick a must. 

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#1253433 Jaromir Jagr Quotes Thread

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 17 March 2014 - 02:41 PM

Cory Schneid



Cory Schneider looks like a lesbian turtle.


Fly with meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lesbian seagull...

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#1252280 GDT: Devils @ Phailures 7:00 PM

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 12 March 2014 - 03:12 PM

The fans in the arena are always gonna boo in those situations even if the right call is being made.  That goes for all fanbases.


You're trying to say we would all be upset if the same thing happened to us.  Well you don't know that.  Hence why I said you aren't in everybody's heads.


Yes, I do think a lot of Devils fans probably would've been ticked off, like I said, at least at first.  Probably would've been a lot of WTF posts after the game, then a softening and some calming down, and a "Well, once you take a step back..." resignation that the call on the ice was correct.  Having that observation doesn't mean I'm trying to get into everyone's heads.     


3101 posts and counting...you know there's no reward for highest average post count per day right?              

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#1250558 The Official 2014 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 06 March 2014 - 07:51 AM

Always nice to have a night to sleep on this stuff.


Re:  Ruutu, in some ways it's like the Devils got him for nothing.  Loktionov wasn't going to be here after this year anyway.  Maybe he turns into something for someone else, but the guess here is he'll continue to show why he was taken in the 5th round, if he's even in the NHL next season.  The fact is that if you really show something and force yourself to be noticed, teams will find a way to get you in the lineup, or at the very least, in more significant roles.  He opened some eyes with that 7 goal, 4 assist burst in his first 18 GP as a Devil, but he hadn't done much since (13 points in his last 58 GP).  Maybe the simple fact is the reason Loki never really made a name for himself here or in LA is that he's simply not very good and hasn't really progressed much.  As for a conditional 2017 3rd-rounder, I can't worry about a mid-round pick that's several seasons away.  I'm guessing the reason it's so far off is that it's contigent on Ruutu re-signing with the Devils?  Anyway, the pick isn't really a big deal.


As for Ruutu himself, he's not a sexy player and his salary is not great, but at least the 'Canes are on the hook for 20% of the cash he has coming to him.  Hopefully his low shooting% is due for some positive regression.  But I've moved from the "WTF?!" camp to the "OK, doesn't look great at first glance, but let's give it a chance" group.  I like that he at least can get a practice or two in with his new teammates. 


The fact that the defensive logjam hasn't been alleviated is frustrating.  At first, I was surprised that Lou couldn't get Carolina to take a bad contract back, but Carolina was clearly looking to shed salary and not do a wash, so I guess it's safe to say Carolina wasn't taking salary back.  I'm guessing unless Loki shows them a hell of a lot, they'll just let him walk.  I don't think the 'Canes cared much about what they were getting back, I think they were just looking to get some coin off their cap for the offseason.  Loki's #1 appeal to them was probably the fact that his contract was expiring and cheap to boot.  I don't think they were trying to nab a prospect.


Re:  Marty...the ball is really in his court now.  No matter what happens between now and the end of the season, unless he rips the Devils organization or the fans, I think whatever bad feelings some Devils fans are currently having towards him will subside...if Devils fans can get past Scott Niedermayer leaving their team to go win a Cup with someone else, they can get past anything.  For all the "Greedermayer", "Needmybrother", and "Mamma's Boy" hatred that came his way just after and during his Ducks career, people got over it, and were willing to celebrate his number retirement without issue...most truly embraced the event, and him as a result.  All Marty really has to do is the following and he'll be fine:


1)  Act like you're 100% happy to still be a Devil, even if you're not.  Say some things to that effect. 


2)  No talk about playing time (or lack thereof) or playing next season.  No one wants to hear that from a declining .899 save% 41-year-old, especially when the other guy is clearly much better.  The less you say about this, the less guys like PDB and Lou and teammates and others have to look bad saying things and singing praises that just about every Devils fan knows are horsesh!t.  If fans know you're not terribly good anymore, you can bet that everyone else does too, even if they don't dare say it. 


3)  For the remaining 19 games of this season, be a good soldier.  You WILL get some games, probably more than you deserve.  You won't be put out to pasture.  Make the most of them.   


4)  Please retire at the end of this year.  Don't Messier your way into making the Devils keep you around for one last season when every last sign points to you being finished.  Don't make the NHL force you to retire.  Do it on your terms, as a Devil, end of this season, gracefully.                

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#1250289 The Quest for 91

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 05 March 2014 - 05:08 PM



An estimated 87% chance of the playoffs if the Devils can hit 92 pts.  It drops to 65-70% at 91 pts.


Of course 92 points would mean a 12-6-1 finish.  Not very likely.


Devils are 15-8-7 in their last 30 (.617 point%).  They have to go .657 in point% the rest of the way.  It's not that big of a jump. 


Of course, PDB actually stating/implying that the #1 goalie spot is still up for grabs probably means there's going to be some avoidable losses along the way.  I can't imagine how Cory must feel right now...Marty is allowed to have all the meh games he wants, but Cory has one and he's benched.  Sadly hilarious. 

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#1250069 The Official 2014 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 05 March 2014 - 03:09 PM

I feel like I got punk'd today. 

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#1246240 All purpose Olympics thread

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 18 February 2014 - 03:33 PM

right on, you're not necessarily determining the best at something- in the words of rick moranis as the immortal danny o'shea in the 1994 classic little giants- "the cowboys may beat you 99 times out of a hundred, but that still leaves one time."

The Olympics isn't really about determining the best (otherwise the soviets would have won in 1980) it's about seeing who can win on any given day in a short tournament. Heck you could go as far as saying that in the nhl the presidents trophy winner should be awarded the cup if you just want it to go to the best team.


Does anybody really think the 1980 US team was truly better than the Russians?  If they played 10 times, the US would've been very lucky to win more than once.  I like that it comes down to one game in the Olympics, sure, hockey's a game of breaks at times, but you'd better bring your best that day...no mulligans.


If I want to see seven-game series to determine who's better, I'll watch the NHL playoffs.



Found this gem on another forum :)


Pretty sure I just threw up in my mouth a little. 

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#1245009 Lots to mull for Devils’ legend Brodeur - Brooks NY Post

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 09 February 2014 - 06:13 PM

Brooks wrote something about nothing being able to tarnish Marty's career at this point, and I agree 100% with that.  If Marty wants to go play somewhere else to what will amount to not much more than a cup of coffee compared to what he did here, that's fine.  682 Devil victories.  Damned near 300 more than the next highest win total for a goalie with one team.  I can live with him winning another 10 or so with someone else.   


If the Devils did trade Marty, they'd have to go out and get a backup.  Kinkaid (who is kind of iffy to begin with) is hurt, and Wedge is not ready. 

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#1243979 Discuss - Most Likely Trade Deadline Targets

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 04 February 2014 - 09:12 AM

This team needs future prospects. Do you guys want to be in this perpetual state of mediocre play and talent for the next decade?

We can pretend this team has a shot at making the playoffs, or we can be realistic and try and acquire some picks or prospects to fill the cupboard.

It's looking like this team is going to be 5 points back at the deadline, which is the WORST POSSIBLE SCENARIO. We shouldn't be buyers this year, seriously.

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The problem with this kind of thinking is that taking a step back doesn't always lead to taking steps forward.  I think sometimes it's easy to think tanking or semi-tanking will automatically mean you'll be a SC contender in 3-4 years.  Look at the Islanders and John Tavares.  He's already in his fifth season and the Islanders look like they're going to miss the playoffs for the fourth time in five seasons.  It's easy to think, when you get that high draft pick (and multiple high draft picks) and some glamour players, that good things are right around the corner, that all your stockpiled picks will somehow all become legitimate prospects, but sometimes all you have is one or two good players, and your only excitement comes from seeing them among the scoring leaders. 


The other problem is if you bail on this season, Schneider probably doesn't re-sign this offseason, and waits to test the market, no matter how sweet of an offer Lou throws at him.  Cory is in his prime years...I can't imagine he would want to waste 2-4 years of them on a team that's in rebuilding mode.  The Devils need to show him that they're not taking any seasons off or steps back if they want to keep him.     


I don't necessarily have a problem with the Devils making a deadline deal that costs them a prospect or two, as long as it's not strictly a "right now" proposition.  If they go for a proven commodity who's still got good years left, is playing well, and can help this team for the next few years as well as this one, and is already locked up, I can get behind that.  If it's a high-cost rental, no.  Low-cost rental, maybe, but it really depends where the Devils are by the deadline.  It's just too early to say. 

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