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#1205424 MSG Being Knocked Down in 10 years?

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 26 July 2013 - 11:51 AM

I just said fvck a diet and went to wendys for a double baconator

 

I just destroyed two Burger King cheeseburgers.  Poor fvckers never stood a chance.


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#1205096 Jagr Signs 1 Year Deal With Devils

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 24 July 2013 - 06:51 AM

No Kovalchuk brah. Broke brah.

 

Admittedly, I see this as an "if" team that could have a nice upside, but there's definitely a chance this implodes (as long as Schneider is Schneider, that seems like a longshot); that being said, I think Lou did as good a job as could be expected after having lost Kovy.  He's done a nice job with these one-year deals too...if this team does crash-and-burn, there's pieces that can be moved...even Salvador's contract (2 years remaining) might not seem so bad to a contending team desperate for help on defense, if Sal's having a decent year. 

 

But yeah, I expect the critics to go with the potential doomsday scenario and run with it.  All I've got to say about that is, regardless of the Devils' short-term performance (which I do believe is going to better than the "experts" will predict...I think they'll be decent and in playoff contention), I am glad the Devils don't have Parise and/or Kovy under lifetime contracts.  I never thought those "keep my guy at any cost" deals made much sense.  Want to sign Schneider to an 8-year deal after next season, I can get on board with that...all long-term deals are a risk, but anything 10 years and over just seems ridiculous and foolhardy to me.  

 

And Kovy and everything about him has been beaten to death, but all I'll say about him is that, based on the balance of his Devils' career, I don't see why his value to the Devils is being blown through the roof.  2011-2012 was very good, but damn if he didn't have to play a lot of minutes to get his points.  And though he did improve his overall game, there were plenty of brainfarts on prominent display, right up until the very end. 

 

Not saying he wasn't a good player, but I am saying he isn't really worthy of the "be-all, end-all" label that too many critics (most of whom probably don't watch the Devils more than a handful of times a year) seem so willing to bestow unto him.  It seems like too many observers see the name "Kovalchuk" and immediately think the Devils can't possibly have any success without him.  I couldn't disagree more.      


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#1203441 Kovalchuk Retired Effective Immediately?

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 15 July 2013 - 07:23 AM

So is anyone still mad at Kovy? I've forgiven him. I'll miss him dearly. I think only if he stayed for a year or two more can we play the card of "we got the best of his poor contract and then he left". He still did and does have a lot left in his tank, and was one of the best conditioned players in the NHL. My biggest gripe is how he did it. I wish he announced his retirement a year in advance, like instead of surprising everyone with that dagger, I wish he would have said he was leaving next year. Or even, when the reports came when the lockouts ended that he wanted to stay; they were clearly true, why deny them? He should have said he was returning for this half season, then dipping.

 

Anyway, like I said, I'm not that mad at him, and this actually puts some moves into perspective, like Parise and Clarkson.

 

I'm not mad at Kovy.  I can't say that I ever really was.  Shocked, yes, but of course it's become clear in hindsight that the signs were definitely there that this could happen. 

 

But more and more, I think this is really an overwhelming positive for the Devils.  They get out from under a bad contract that was only going to get worse.  And though Kovy did allow himself to be coached into being a more complete player (seems like Jacques Lemaire was the only guy who was every able to get through to him, for whatever the reasons), I think there was something a little bit annoying about him...it started with the contract nonsense.  I think if he had gotten what he REALLY wanted, in terms of simply playing hockey, he would've been an LA King.  I think he was praying they'd find a way to make it work.  I think he mistakenly thought that what seemed like all of the money in the world would make him happy to be a NJ Devil. 

 

Just like every other occupation, there are workers who clearly thrive on being challenged, and overcoming obstacles as they face them.  Brodeur is one of those kinds of players, almost to a fault...he probably doesn't see Schneider as the guy who could be taking his job next season.  He sees him more as the latest challenge.  That's how the Brodeur-types overcome rough starts (like the one in 2011-12, where he almost looked finished at times) to put up a .920 save% for the last 50 or so games of the season and help his team reach the SC Final. 

 

I don't think Kovy is a "challenge me" guy.  I think he likes things being easy and relatively simple.  Wind me up, let me do my thing and I'll get my 40 or so goals.  I don't know why he thought his team should be a lock to be a Cup-contender every season (especially when he signed a 15-year deal in a league where teams rarely are going to be considered legitimate SC contenders for more than 10 or 11 years of that term, if that).  He got a taste of going home and decided he wanted that life, which is fine, not for me to judge, but the fact is that, if what Kovy's sister is saying is in the ballpark of how Kovy really feels, then he bailed on them almost at the second when things started to get rough...after Lou made about as big a commitment as one could make to a player, one that Lou knew had a chance to be a major detriment to his franchise, and relatively soon at that.   

 

It's one thing when a Parise or a Clarkson or others simply choose to exercise a right to choose their own team for the first time in their NHL lives...some fans may despise them for it, but I don't kid myself that the Parises and Clarksons and others were dreaming of one day playing for the NJ Devils and doing it in Newark.  But it's another when you decide, after the going looked it could be possibly (but NOT definitely) rough in the short-term, you turn your back on the team that made a massive commitment to you, just two years into it, and I say two years because it's clear that, if he had his way, he never shows up for Year 3 of his deal.  The guy had to be friggin' DRAGGED back to play here the season after his team reached the friggin' CUP FINAL?!  REALLY? 

 

Anyway, I remember both Elias and Brodeur stating when everything was coming apart in 2010-11, that you don't just abandon the team at a time like that.  I'm not going to make them out to be perfect because of that, but it shows their mentality, and why both players remain Devils.  Part of the reason I'm not angry with Kovy is because he saved the Devils from trying to build a team around a guy who wanted everything to come easily to him and wasn't going to fight through tough times, the way so many others who have played for the Devils have.  Just like the famous quote from Rudy:  "I wish I could put your heart in some of my players' bodies."   


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#1202574 Kovalchuk Retired Effective Immediately?

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 12 July 2013 - 07:52 AM

NOW you say this?????

 

Tri has changed his definition of what Kovy is multiple times throughout his career here.  At the same time, the Kovy that retired was a different player than the one that played for the Thrashers (though I think he's going to become that again in the KHL).

 

Remember young Forrest Gump, with the leg braces?  I think that's what playing for the Devils felt like to Kovy.  Remember when Forrest started RUN-NING and the braces came flying off?  I think that's how Kovy felt when he played in the KHL.   


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#1202337 The "Now That We've Had Time To Digest This Thread"

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 11 July 2013 - 07:51 PM

Clearly, as far as dark days in the Devils franchise go, Kovy "retiring" ranks waaaaaay the hell up there.  Goes without saying...and even worse, as fans it was damned near impossible to see this coming.  We were all blindsided today, and as expected, we all experienced a lot of emotions and feelings, and pretty much all of them were negative.

 

I am disappointed, but now that the shock is over, I can't say that I am angry with Kovy necessarily.  Don't get me wrong, as far as CR1976 the Devils fan goes, the fvcker's dead to me forever, but the human being in me sees it this way:

 

He's not American.  He's Russian.  Clearly Russia feels right to him in a way America never did. 

 

It's easy to say, "Well, if he had any doubts about staying here, he shouldn't have signed that deal."  He signed it in 2010.  It's now 2013.  A lot can happen in three years.  People can change.  What seemed like a great idea in 2010 can feel like a lousy one a few years later.  Since Kovy clearly had a change of heart and no longer wanted to be a part of this franchise, it's a good thing that the Devils are no longer on the hook for paying him $77 million.  Yes, it's going to hurt in the short term, but Kovy's contract was a bad one the minute it was signed.  I can't imagine he could've held up continuing to carry the workload that was being asked of him.  His deal was going to be a rough one in time (same as Parise's).  With this contract null and void, new opportunities WILL present themselves, but I'm not going to pretend that the Devils became a better team today.   

 

So in short, I can't bring myself to hate Kovy.

 

But I can hate the NHL right now.  Because today showed that the brand has been cheapened, and the NHL has no else to blame but themselves for this.  They've taken the brand for granted for too long, and because of their arrogance (thank you Gary Bettman), they allowed another game to ride into their turf and become a competitor for the world's best players' services.  This is such a sad joke.  The NHL is supposed to be the best league in the world, the league where the top players from all-around want to compete for the right to hoist hockey's ultimate trophy. That's supposed to be a fvcking NO BRAINER!  Remember, it wasn't so long ago that Russians were yearning, screaming, begging for the chance to play in the NHL...not the opportunity to go BACK! 

 

With Kovy's defection, to me, everything about the NHL took a hit today.  The league, how it's perceived, the Cup...somehow all of it seems a little less significant, a little less important, and the NHL is not a league that can afford to take hits to its credibility like this.  One of its best players willingly turned his back on what is allegedly THE friggin' PREMIER hockey league of the world.  I'm still amazed that this could even happen, regardless of the circumstances.   

 

Anywhere, just curious where others who are somewhat breathing normally again are. 


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#1200307 CLARKSON SIGNS w/TORONTO $36.75M / 7yrs

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 05 July 2013 - 01:16 PM

Especially in a high pressure environment like Toronto. A couple of bad games and the media will start to flip. I hope for his sake he scores on opening night.

 

Like I've always maintained...signing the deal and doing the lovefest press conference intros are the easy part.  Then comes that little thing called "earning the money", especially in a high-pressure environment like Toronto.  Clarkson saw first-hand how tough it was for Kovalchuk in that first year of his deal, when he struggled early on in 2010-11.  I'm guessing double, probably triple, that in Toronto if Clarkson doesn't get out of the gate fast. 

 

Nothing against David in the slightest though, it's clearly the place he wanted to be, and he's getting silly dollars to be there...can't say I blame him for taking the deal.  But I sure think Toronto was idiotic for giving it to him. 


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#1198336 Devils trade #9 pick in 2013 Draft to Vancouver for Cory Schneider

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 30 June 2013 - 08:28 PM

It'll be a nice controlled experiment to see if save percentage translates across teams. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

 

We get it, you hate the move.  The Devils found a guy who's still young, in his prime, and could be here for quite a while.  No living year-to-year, no wondering how the Devils get through 2013-14 with two oldsters, and what happens in 2014-2015.  No more wondering about Wedge and Kinkaid and Clermont.  This is such a positive, I have no idea how anyone can bitch about this one.

 

 

Lou said marty is still no.1

 

Fine if Lou wants to say that now as to be respectful, but there's no way Marty hangs onto the job if he struggles, or if Schneider clearly outplays him.  The writing is very much on the wall here.


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#1195996 The Devils have re-signed...... Tedenby!

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 19 June 2013 - 01:50 PM

i surely hope the fvck not its not a security cause its looking bad for clarkson and elias

 

Yer a glass is half-empty kinda fella ain't ya?

 

Nope, more like the glass has fallen on the floor and shattered into a million pieces type. 

 

I don't know that one necessarily has anything to do with the other. 


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#1191642 Rangers fans

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 15 May 2013 - 09:28 AM

JP1995, welcome to the forums. I have a funny feeling you and your dad probably bring a little of the unwanted attention from Ranger fans unto yourselves...just a hunch.

I usually avoid MSG Devil-Ranger games. For one, I don't find very many Ranger fans fun to talk to. For another, the ONLY fight I ever got into was in an MSG bathroom, during a Devil-Ranger game.

I've told this one before, but to sum up:

I was taking a whizz and a Ranger fan told me to go into the ladies' room with the other Devils' fans. He sounded like he was kidding in a jovial way, so I coughed back "Make the playoffs!" (It was 1999).

He got out of his place in line and gave me a slap on the back of the head (not hard, but hard enough to be annoying)...keep in mind I wasn't done pissing yet. "fvcking fa**ot Devils fan!"

Me: "C'mon man, I was kidding with you. I'm not looking for trouble."
Another whack to the back of the head, harder than the last. "C'mon, say something now tough guy, fvcking fa**ot Devils fan."

I turn and make eye contact with him. I have to admit, the guy was scary...I'll never forget his eyes. He has psycho eyes for sure. All I said was "Don't do that again."

He did it again. Really hard this time.

I lost it.

"You fvcker!" I punched him right in the face and he lost his balance and fell back into a wall. I pinned him up with my elbow and popped him in the face another six times or so. Then I just lost it, saying things like "You piece of sh!t mother fvcker, you see what you made me do? Why couldn't you just walk away?" The weird thing was that the bathroom was fairly crowded, but no one did anything to break it up. No security, which was a blessing for me.

I stayed for the rest of the game (Devils won 4-2 I think), but I really didn't enjoy it. The fight kind of left me feeling shaken and bummed out...some people enjoy that stuff and go looking for it, but I don't. I just wanted to watch a hockey game.
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#1188811 Let's Give Elias His Due Tonight

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 25 April 2013 - 12:02 PM

Great post DR33. 

 

Regardless of what happens with Elias next season, (short of some kind of falling out, which I seriously doubt will occur), no one's wearing #26 for the Devils ever again, and that's how it should be...I don't think there is any doubt about this.  #4, #3, #27, #30 and #26 all belong up in the rafters...five very special players deserving of that honor.     


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#1188367 Brodeur on the cover of NHL14 !!!

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 23 April 2013 - 06:57 AM

Why would a video game franchise put the current worst goalie in the league on its cover?

 

C'mon man, you are getting ridiculous with the hatred.  The worst goalie?  There's guys who have been worse, but that's not the point.  Marty has been one of the elite goalies for a very long time, incredibly consistent and durable, right up to the '09-'10 season.  His save% through that year actually IMPROVED after the lockout...you know, the lockout that was supposed to "expose" him.  No, the last few years haven't been as good, and he's clearly not what he was...even the most ardent Brodeur supporters (like me) won't argue that, and though I know it's probably not going to happen, I really wouldn't mind seeing Brodeur retire after this season.  For one, I don't think he has anything left to prove.  For another, based on the last three years, I don't see how he's going to play much better than he is right now (even factoring in his overall good play in the SCF run last season), and his current level of play simply isn't good enough for a team that sadly looks like it's going to need elite play from that position to compete in the short term.

 

This is how it tends to go with the big names and the all-time greats...they have a hard time accepting that they're not what they were, but if you're going to blame Marty for that, you can blame Lou too...it was probably a bit of a "lifetime achievement" contract on Lou's part, giving Marty a two-year deal, but when you consider all Marty has done for the organization since his career took off, I don't know how you can grow to blast him with such hatred over and over.  All you have to do is look at a team like the Flyers...look at all of the "Number 1" goalies they've had since Marty became the man for NJ.  You had almost two decades where you knew who your starting goalie was going to be, and you knew that, just about every season, you were going to get good-to-great play from that position.  He had some years that were better than others, but you never had to suffer through a bad Marty season when he was in his prime, and that prime lasted from 1993 to 2010, with almost no injuries to boot.  There isn't a team in the NHL who wouldn't have KILLED to have had a guy like that, a guy who was so friggin' dependable and durable. 

 

Yeah, sadly, it's starting to get a little ugly, but like I've said in other threads, part of what makes the greats what they are is what probably makes them stubborn towards the end of their careers.  I'm guessing if you were able to ask Marty if he still thought he's got something left and can have a better season in '13-'14, he'd tell you yes, absolutely.  His believing that will probably put Lou and the franchise in an awkward position next year, and if Marty starts slowly next year, the vultures are going to start circling, calling Marty selfish, delusional, washed-up, etc...that would be painful to watch, but just like when perenially good teams tend to crash hard and ugly, the same thing tends to happen with the all-time greats. 

 

Instead of taking the "What have you done for me lately?" approach, take a step back and realize how lucky you were to have a guy like Marty play for your team for so long.  A guy who gave you everything he had on the ice, and tried to do his best by the organization off it.  No, he wasn't always perfect, but perfection doesn't exist.  Very soon the Devils will be another team that could be living year-to-year with their goalies...maybe we'll get lucky and the Devils will find another long-term goalie they can count on for a while, but good luck finding a guy who's capable of appearing in 70+ games in 12 different seasons, helping his team win multiple Cups, and who was certain skillsets so strong and dominating that the NHL will feel the need to make rule changes to minimize those skills.   

 

If you're not happy with Marty's current level of play, that's one thing, but to be so flat-out disrespectful and mean-spirited about it...I don't get that at all.   


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#1188132 It's a Man's Game (Devils Rangers 4/21/13)

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 22 April 2013 - 08:01 AM

Crappy way to end the season.  Outside of that nice 8-1-3 start, this was a pretty craptacular NHL season for Devils fans for sure. 

 

Some people will point to bad luck, some will point to individual players, some to Lou, some to Parise's departure...but suffice it to say there's plenty of blame to go around.  The problems are pretty simple, and we know what they all are:  they can't score and they can't stop the puck. 

 

All you need to know about Marty is that he ranks 11th in GAA (2.23) and 39th in save% (.900).  The latter number is bad, and the former was clearly buoyed by the low volume of shots he faced.  And the flat-out low save%s is continuation of a trend that is now on its 3rd season.  I'd be surprised if he retires after this off-season, but I really do hope Lou and him have a sitdown, because though he deserves to try to exit the game on good terms, he can't go into next season as the unquestioned #1.  If the Devils are going to be a club that struggles to score goals (and it looks like they will be for the short term...probably not as bad as they were this season, but I would think bottom half of the league for sure, likely bottom third), then the simple reality is, Lou needs to find someone who has a reasonable shot to stop .915-.920 of the shots heading his way.  Such a goalie currently doesn't play for the Devils.  I'm not going to get into picking apart Marty's quotes and killing him, but at the same time, I think this season showed conclusively that Lou can't just throw Marty out there next season and hope that he suddenly finds the Fountain of Youth.  But I hope Marty realizes it too, because next year can go one of two ways...he can leave the game on reasonable terms, or he can pull a Messier and make things awkward for everyone, from the fans to his teammates to his GM to ownership.  The sad fact is that some all-time greats have a hard time realizing that they've declined, and think they have that one last good season left in them.  This off-season will go a long way in establishing whether Marty is willing or able to see that he simply shouldn't think of himself as THE guy anymore.  I hope he does, because I don't think anyone associated with the Devils wants to be the one to tell him that painful truth.  I think they're all hoping he will come to this conclusion almost completely on his own.    

 

Can't help but wonder what will happen with Elias too.  Since he signed his big contract, he has been good for 25 goals per 82 game block on average (regular season only)...no, Elias' value is clearly not measured on goals alone.  But he's 37 and probably not going to get better, and if the Devils re-sign him, I am going to guess that they will do it thinking he's going to be one of their go-to scorers.  If the Devils want to keep him, I am OK with it, as long as it's not for more than two years, and as long as he's not being paid like he's a guy who the Devils should count on for primary scoring.  He should be looked at as a secondary scorer for the stage of his career he's about to enter...if someone wants to pay him as though he can do more than that, in both years and dollars, then Lou should let him go.  I know some fans will feel like Elias should never leave, and that other fans will point out that an immediate Elias replacement or a player like him may be hard to find in the short term, but the last thing the Devils need is another overpaid star on the decline.  Lou needs to tread carefully on this one.


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#1182438 GDT New Jersey Devils vs. The Isles 7pm MSG+

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 02 April 2013 - 06:41 AM

i'll say it again willing to get some "ah give me a fvcking break" or "let it go".

 

but again... last year Deboer and the staff put a C on a guy who they called the "heart and soul" of the team, he was also part of every part of the game that made us successful in a long run.

 

and he's gone and Lou didnt replace ANY parts of what he was bringing either production wise or intangible wise... then slapped the C on a useless dman who should get scratch on most night.

 

so don't call me out on this cause it's absolutely true and anyone denying it is simply in denial now. The stats or wtv what you want to look at will agree with it. Its not "no big deal" to lose your "heart and soul" coaches doesnt throw those names around cause it sounds cute, it was legit.

 

OK, I'll say it:

 

LET

 

IT

 

GO!

 

You've beaten this dead horse to the point where there is absolutely nothing left to beat.  Most Devils fans didn't think it was going to be business as usual after Parise left...a lot of us knew it was going to hurt.  But life goes on.  I know, you think Lou should've just been able to replace Parise or parts of Parise's skillsets in the course of one off-season.  Clearly this going to take him some time.  Are the Devils better off right now?  No, but for some reason you seem to think you're the only one who was able to see this...like I said, I think almost to a fan we all knew losing Parise was going to hurt.  Will the Devils be better off in the future?  Probably, based on the absurdity of Parise's contract. 

 

 

Anyway, seriously, stop acting like you're being so profound here.  YES, THE DEVILS WERE HURT BY THE LOSS OF PARISE FOR 2013.  And you're not the only one to see it.  Lamenting it over and over and OVER again as annoyingly as possible won't change that fact either. 

 

Can we move on now, and start wondering how the Devils turn this season around with the players that they DO have? 


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#1181004 Jagr?

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 27 March 2013 - 02:33 PM

Bossy averaged 59.4 goals per season in a nine-year period, and was a career 21.2% shooter.  I know it was a different era and a different game, but in a word...DAMN! 

 

Those Cup-winning Islanders were really something else...in that 4-Cup burst (back then it took 15 wins to take the Cup, as the first round was only best-of-five), they went 60-19, only losing between 3 and 6 games total in each playoff season.  Once again...DAMN! 


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#1179455 GDT 3/19/13: NY Rags @ Devils

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 20 March 2013 - 10:18 AM

Well that's Lou's job to figure it out not mine. But wtv he did or didnt do isnt working out. and i'd assume Lou said HIMSELF "you just CAN'T replace a guy like Zach." but it could be "Don't" cause thats clearly what he did... he didnt get anyone to at least try to fill that production from Zach and Sykora. It works to make small acquisition to patch things on trade deadline just to boost your team... but we lost a 30 and a  20 goals scorer and he simply didnt bring anyone that could come close to patch for that lack. It's a fact, he didnt. I guess he assumed Zajac's production since he's back would be enough, i guess he thought having like 6 4th line players should do to. 

 

Exactly, so stop trying to make it sound like it's so friggin' simple and that Lou should've just been able to easily replace both players .  Lou is thorough and I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one...I am guessing he didn't see anyone to his liking enough to overpay (which is what tends to happen when bringing in UFAs).  So be it.  Sometime the quick fix just isn't there.  I can understand his thinking re: Zajac...it's hard to believe that he has four assists in 30 GP.  I don't know a soul on Earth who could've seen THAT coming.  I would think by this point, he'd have 10 or so by accident.    

 

Though lack of scoring has clearly hurt the Devils, when you have a goalie putting up an .886% in 17 starts, it's going to make for some rough going.  Your complaining is built on a faulty premise, that quick and obvious solutions are always there, if only a guy like Lou was observant enough to see them all.  You may want to look at the other side of that coin, and realize that maybe, just maybe, a guy like Lou is smart enough to see that quick and obvious solutions WEREN'T there this off-season.  The fact remains, you've seen your team get to five Finals and miss the playoffs three times since '88-'89.  Some seasons it doesn't all fall into place, and this one's not over yet.   

 

Not saying Lou is perfect...no GM is or ever will be.  He's had his share of follies and moves that seemed good on paper, but just didn't work out.    


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