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#1206511 Brodeur vs Roy.. vote!

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 08 August 2013 - 06:41 AM

Good comparision. Marty stick handling is a plus for him, but Roy was clutch for the big games. Who doesn't get concerned if it is the big game and Marty in his prime was in goal?

 

You got to stop the puck before you move it.

 

These are the best three goalie that have been in the NHL. Tough ranking number 1. They each were special.

 

It's not like you can go wrong with ANY of them, really.

 

What's amazing in Hasek's case is that he racked up 389 wins and didn't even become a full-time starter in the NHL until he was 28. 

 

I've brought this up before, but from '93-'99, Hasek's save%s were just ridiculous:  .930, .930, .920, .930, .932, .937.  He finished at .922 for his career (.925 playoffs).  Brodeur is at .913 for his career and .919 playoffs, and Roy is at .910 career and .918 playoffs.  Roy's numbers are a little tricky because he played in both Live Puck and Dead Puck (his .900 save% led the NHL in '87-'88...he was putting up .900+ save%s and sub-3.00 GAAs when it was a big deal to do so.  Vanbiesbrouck won a Vezina in '86 with a 3.32 GAA and .887 save%.  Those numbers would get you cut today).  Brodeur and Hasek played most of their careers in Dead Puck.  Roy's play really sticks out if you were watching NHL hockey in the '80s, because there was a lot of mediocre goaltending back then...yeah, there were a lot of Giguere, Michelin-men types as the 90s transitioned into the 2000s, no doubt, but when you watch some '80s games, you realize that a lot of guys who were goalies back then simply weren't terribly good.  Goalies are better overall now.   

 

Beyond that, it's all about what one chooses to emphasize as to why you'd pick one over the other...Hasek's absurd puck-stopping skills, Roy's ability to play AND flourish in the stifling fishbowl that is Montreal for as long as he did, Brodeur's insane ability to start 70+ games year after year after year, be consistent, and be the best pure puck-handling goalie the game has ever seen. 


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#1206456 Brodeur vs Roy.. vote!

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 07 August 2013 - 03:40 PM

The way I've always compared "The Big Three" (Roy, Brodeur, Hasek)

 

Roy:  most clutch, Captain Butterfly

Hasek:  best pure puck-stopper, probably ever

Brodeur:  best all-arounder...rules were actually put in place to negate his strengths.  Insanely durable. 


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#1205764 Jagr Signs 1 Year Deal With Devils

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 30 July 2013 - 11:37 AM

I 2nd that Manta! Intelligent poster

 

We'll see.  Derek21's past history was to come in peace, then slowly but surely take veiled shots at the Devils, which would then lead to debates and then memorable meltdowns on Derek's part.  His brother (94Obsession, I think) tended to be much more level-headed and even-keeled.  But people can change/mellow out/learn, whatever...maybe it will be different this time.


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#1205646 Jagr seems really happy to be a Devil

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 29 July 2013 - 12:04 PM

Jagr seems kinda pale, and his eyes are pretty red too...maybe he's spending too much time partying in the offseason?  What if he comes to camp out of shape?  He's 41 years old and isn't getting any younger, shouldn't he be taking care of himself?  The Devils can't afford to have Jagr showing up to camp out-of-shape and possibly stoned to boot...if the Devils fall out of this thing early, he might have some trade value to a contender, and a healthy Jagr is worth at least a first-rounder AND a ready-to-step in prospect or three.   

 

And now that I look at his face a little closer, it looks to me like his smile is a little see-through...I'm not so sure he's really all that happy to be a Devil.  I have to admit, this picture really has me worried now.  I don't think the Devils are winning more than 20 games this season...this photo should have everyone here concerned.  This season feels like it's over before it already began.  fvck Jagr, fvck the Devils, and fvck Lou too.  I'm so sick of this sh!t, I'm done with this team until they win three games in a row.  I'm not kidding! 


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#1205471 MSG Being Knocked Down in 10 years?

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 26 July 2013 - 03:17 PM

I want them to knock down MSG and put in it's place a zinburger, cheeburger cheeburger, In and Out, Little Shanty, Fuddruckers, and a Shake Shack.

 

Leave MSG up...after filling up on all of those burgers, we're going to need a mighty big toilet.


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#1205424 MSG Being Knocked Down in 10 years?

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 26 July 2013 - 11:51 AM

I just said fvck a diet and went to wendys for a double baconator

 

I just destroyed two Burger King cheeseburgers.  Poor fvckers never stood a chance.


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#1205096 Jagr Signs 1 Year Deal With Devils

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 24 July 2013 - 06:51 AM

No Kovalchuk brah. Broke brah.

 

Admittedly, I see this as an "if" team that could have a nice upside, but there's definitely a chance this implodes (as long as Schneider is Schneider, that seems like a longshot); that being said, I think Lou did as good a job as could be expected after having lost Kovy.  He's done a nice job with these one-year deals too...if this team does crash-and-burn, there's pieces that can be moved...even Salvador's contract (2 years remaining) might not seem so bad to a contending team desperate for help on defense, if Sal's having a decent year. 

 

But yeah, I expect the critics to go with the potential doomsday scenario and run with it.  All I've got to say about that is, regardless of the Devils' short-term performance (which I do believe is going to better than the "experts" will predict...I think they'll be decent and in playoff contention), I am glad the Devils don't have Parise and/or Kovy under lifetime contracts.  I never thought those "keep my guy at any cost" deals made much sense.  Want to sign Schneider to an 8-year deal after next season, I can get on board with that...all long-term deals are a risk, but anything 10 years and over just seems ridiculous and foolhardy to me.  

 

And Kovy and everything about him has been beaten to death, but all I'll say about him is that, based on the balance of his Devils' career, I don't see why his value to the Devils is being blown through the roof.  2011-2012 was very good, but damn if he didn't have to play a lot of minutes to get his points.  And though he did improve his overall game, there were plenty of brainfarts on prominent display, right up until the very end. 

 

Not saying he wasn't a good player, but I am saying he isn't really worthy of the "be-all, end-all" label that too many critics (most of whom probably don't watch the Devils more than a handful of times a year) seem so willing to bestow unto him.  It seems like too many observers see the name "Kovalchuk" and immediately think the Devils can't possibly have any success without him.  I couldn't disagree more.      


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#1203441 Kovalchuk Retired Effective Immediately?

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 15 July 2013 - 07:23 AM

So is anyone still mad at Kovy? I've forgiven him. I'll miss him dearly. I think only if he stayed for a year or two more can we play the card of "we got the best of his poor contract and then he left". He still did and does have a lot left in his tank, and was one of the best conditioned players in the NHL. My biggest gripe is how he did it. I wish he announced his retirement a year in advance, like instead of surprising everyone with that dagger, I wish he would have said he was leaving next year. Or even, when the reports came when the lockouts ended that he wanted to stay; they were clearly true, why deny them? He should have said he was returning for this half season, then dipping.

 

Anyway, like I said, I'm not that mad at him, and this actually puts some moves into perspective, like Parise and Clarkson.

 

I'm not mad at Kovy.  I can't say that I ever really was.  Shocked, yes, but of course it's become clear in hindsight that the signs were definitely there that this could happen. 

 

But more and more, I think this is really an overwhelming positive for the Devils.  They get out from under a bad contract that was only going to get worse.  And though Kovy did allow himself to be coached into being a more complete player (seems like Jacques Lemaire was the only guy who was every able to get through to him, for whatever the reasons), I think there was something a little bit annoying about him...it started with the contract nonsense.  I think if he had gotten what he REALLY wanted, in terms of simply playing hockey, he would've been an LA King.  I think he was praying they'd find a way to make it work.  I think he mistakenly thought that what seemed like all of the money in the world would make him happy to be a NJ Devil. 

 

Just like every other occupation, there are workers who clearly thrive on being challenged, and overcoming obstacles as they face them.  Brodeur is one of those kinds of players, almost to a fault...he probably doesn't see Schneider as the guy who could be taking his job next season.  He sees him more as the latest challenge.  That's how the Brodeur-types overcome rough starts (like the one in 2011-12, where he almost looked finished at times) to put up a .920 save% for the last 50 or so games of the season and help his team reach the SC Final. 

 

I don't think Kovy is a "challenge me" guy.  I think he likes things being easy and relatively simple.  Wind me up, let me do my thing and I'll get my 40 or so goals.  I don't know why he thought his team should be a lock to be a Cup-contender every season (especially when he signed a 15-year deal in a league where teams rarely are going to be considered legitimate SC contenders for more than 10 or 11 years of that term, if that).  He got a taste of going home and decided he wanted that life, which is fine, not for me to judge, but the fact is that, if what Kovy's sister is saying is in the ballpark of how Kovy really feels, then he bailed on them almost at the second when things started to get rough...after Lou made about as big a commitment as one could make to a player, one that Lou knew had a chance to be a major detriment to his franchise, and relatively soon at that.   

 

It's one thing when a Parise or a Clarkson or others simply choose to exercise a right to choose their own team for the first time in their NHL lives...some fans may despise them for it, but I don't kid myself that the Parises and Clarksons and others were dreaming of one day playing for the NJ Devils and doing it in Newark.  But it's another when you decide, after the going looked it could be possibly (but NOT definitely) rough in the short-term, you turn your back on the team that made a massive commitment to you, just two years into it, and I say two years because it's clear that, if he had his way, he never shows up for Year 3 of his deal.  The guy had to be friggin' DRAGGED back to play here the season after his team reached the friggin' CUP FINAL?!  REALLY? 

 

Anyway, I remember both Elias and Brodeur stating when everything was coming apart in 2010-11, that you don't just abandon the team at a time like that.  I'm not going to make them out to be perfect because of that, but it shows their mentality, and why both players remain Devils.  Part of the reason I'm not angry with Kovy is because he saved the Devils from trying to build a team around a guy who wanted everything to come easily to him and wasn't going to fight through tough times, the way so many others who have played for the Devils have.  Just like the famous quote from Rudy:  "I wish I could put your heart in some of my players' bodies."   


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#1202574 Kovalchuk Retired Effective Immediately?

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 12 July 2013 - 07:52 AM

NOW you say this?????

 

Tri has changed his definition of what Kovy is multiple times throughout his career here.  At the same time, the Kovy that retired was a different player than the one that played for the Thrashers (though I think he's going to become that again in the KHL).

 

Remember young Forrest Gump, with the leg braces?  I think that's what playing for the Devils felt like to Kovy.  Remember when Forrest started RUN-NING and the braces came flying off?  I think that's how Kovy felt when he played in the KHL.   


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#1202337 The "Now That We've Had Time To Digest This Thread"

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 11 July 2013 - 07:51 PM

Clearly, as far as dark days in the Devils franchise go, Kovy "retiring" ranks waaaaaay the hell up there.  Goes without saying...and even worse, as fans it was damned near impossible to see this coming.  We were all blindsided today, and as expected, we all experienced a lot of emotions and feelings, and pretty much all of them were negative.

 

I am disappointed, but now that the shock is over, I can't say that I am angry with Kovy necessarily.  Don't get me wrong, as far as CR1976 the Devils fan goes, the fvcker's dead to me forever, but the human being in me sees it this way:

 

He's not American.  He's Russian.  Clearly Russia feels right to him in a way America never did. 

 

It's easy to say, "Well, if he had any doubts about staying here, he shouldn't have signed that deal."  He signed it in 2010.  It's now 2013.  A lot can happen in three years.  People can change.  What seemed like a great idea in 2010 can feel like a lousy one a few years later.  Since Kovy clearly had a change of heart and no longer wanted to be a part of this franchise, it's a good thing that the Devils are no longer on the hook for paying him $77 million.  Yes, it's going to hurt in the short term, but Kovy's contract was a bad one the minute it was signed.  I can't imagine he could've held up continuing to carry the workload that was being asked of him.  His deal was going to be a rough one in time (same as Parise's).  With this contract null and void, new opportunities WILL present themselves, but I'm not going to pretend that the Devils became a better team today.   

 

So in short, I can't bring myself to hate Kovy.

 

But I can hate the NHL right now.  Because today showed that the brand has been cheapened, and the NHL has no else to blame but themselves for this.  They've taken the brand for granted for too long, and because of their arrogance (thank you Gary Bettman), they allowed another game to ride into their turf and become a competitor for the world's best players' services.  This is such a sad joke.  The NHL is supposed to be the best league in the world, the league where the top players from all-around want to compete for the right to hoist hockey's ultimate trophy. That's supposed to be a fvcking NO BRAINER!  Remember, it wasn't so long ago that Russians were yearning, screaming, begging for the chance to play in the NHL...not the opportunity to go BACK! 

 

With Kovy's defection, to me, everything about the NHL took a hit today.  The league, how it's perceived, the Cup...somehow all of it seems a little less significant, a little less important, and the NHL is not a league that can afford to take hits to its credibility like this.  One of its best players willingly turned his back on what is allegedly THE friggin' PREMIER hockey league of the world.  I'm still amazed that this could even happen, regardless of the circumstances.   

 

Anywhere, just curious where others who are somewhat breathing normally again are. 


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#1200307 CLARKSON SIGNS w/TORONTO $36.75M / 7yrs

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 05 July 2013 - 01:16 PM

Especially in a high pressure environment like Toronto. A couple of bad games and the media will start to flip. I hope for his sake he scores on opening night.

 

Like I've always maintained...signing the deal and doing the lovefest press conference intros are the easy part.  Then comes that little thing called "earning the money", especially in a high-pressure environment like Toronto.  Clarkson saw first-hand how tough it was for Kovalchuk in that first year of his deal, when he struggled early on in 2010-11.  I'm guessing double, probably triple, that in Toronto if Clarkson doesn't get out of the gate fast. 

 

Nothing against David in the slightest though, it's clearly the place he wanted to be, and he's getting silly dollars to be there...can't say I blame him for taking the deal.  But I sure think Toronto was idiotic for giving it to him. 


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#1198336 Devils trade #9 pick in 2013 Draft to Vancouver for Cory Schneider

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 30 June 2013 - 08:28 PM

It'll be a nice controlled experiment to see if save percentage translates across teams. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

 

We get it, you hate the move.  The Devils found a guy who's still young, in his prime, and could be here for quite a while.  No living year-to-year, no wondering how the Devils get through 2013-14 with two oldsters, and what happens in 2014-2015.  No more wondering about Wedge and Kinkaid and Clermont.  This is such a positive, I have no idea how anyone can bitch about this one.

 

 

Lou said marty is still no.1

 

Fine if Lou wants to say that now as to be respectful, but there's no way Marty hangs onto the job if he struggles, or if Schneider clearly outplays him.  The writing is very much on the wall here.


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#1195996 The Devils have re-signed...... Tedenby!

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 19 June 2013 - 01:50 PM

i surely hope the fvck not its not a security cause its looking bad for clarkson and elias

 

Yer a glass is half-empty kinda fella ain't ya?

 

Nope, more like the glass has fallen on the floor and shattered into a million pieces type. 

 

I don't know that one necessarily has anything to do with the other. 


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#1191642 Rangers fans

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 15 May 2013 - 09:28 AM

JP1995, welcome to the forums. I have a funny feeling you and your dad probably bring a little of the unwanted attention from Ranger fans unto yourselves...just a hunch.

I usually avoid MSG Devil-Ranger games. For one, I don't find very many Ranger fans fun to talk to. For another, the ONLY fight I ever got into was in an MSG bathroom, during a Devil-Ranger game.

I've told this one before, but to sum up:

I was taking a whizz and a Ranger fan told me to go into the ladies' room with the other Devils' fans. He sounded like he was kidding in a jovial way, so I coughed back "Make the playoffs!" (It was 1999).

He got out of his place in line and gave me a slap on the back of the head (not hard, but hard enough to be annoying)...keep in mind I wasn't done pissing yet. "fvcking fa**ot Devils fan!"

Me: "C'mon man, I was kidding with you. I'm not looking for trouble."
Another whack to the back of the head, harder than the last. "C'mon, say something now tough guy, fvcking fa**ot Devils fan."

I turn and make eye contact with him. I have to admit, the guy was scary...I'll never forget his eyes. He has psycho eyes for sure. All I said was "Don't do that again."

He did it again. Really hard this time.

I lost it.

"You fvcker!" I punched him right in the face and he lost his balance and fell back into a wall. I pinned him up with my elbow and popped him in the face another six times or so. Then I just lost it, saying things like "You piece of sh!t mother fvcker, you see what you made me do? Why couldn't you just walk away?" The weird thing was that the bathroom was fairly crowded, but no one did anything to break it up. No security, which was a blessing for me.

I stayed for the rest of the game (Devils won 4-2 I think), but I really didn't enjoy it. The fight kind of left me feeling shaken and bummed out...some people enjoy that stuff and go looking for it, but I don't. I just wanted to watch a hockey game.
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#1188811 Let's Give Elias His Due Tonight

Posted by Colorado Rockies 1976 on 25 April 2013 - 12:02 PM

Great post DR33. 

 

Regardless of what happens with Elias next season, (short of some kind of falling out, which I seriously doubt will occur), no one's wearing #26 for the Devils ever again, and that's how it should be...I don't think there is any doubt about this.  #4, #3, #27, #30 and #26 all belong up in the rafters...five very special players deserving of that honor.     


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