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  1. 7 minutes ago, 2ELIAS6 said:

    Not sure I agree with it being an “illness” it’s self induced, calling him out is more than warranted for his actions. He wasn’t just drunk driving, threatening the officers and their loved ones is just a down right sh!tty character. Tons of drunks out there get arrested for the same thing majority of them don’t end up acting like that. 

    I understand your point - it isn't a random cancer, but it's the brains inability to stop the behavior.

    https://iuhealth.org/thrive/is-addiction-really-a-disease#:~:text=Alcohol or drug addiction%2C also,that can happen to anyone.

  2. It's a difficult market to really judge. 
    There are definitely collectors out there, but it's not a huge market compared to sports cards.   
    I sold his base Upper Deck Yong Gun rookie for $1500 two years ago, and the market was clearly defined because they exchange hands often.

    I would use eBay sold listings to really get a gauge of the value and using comparable player (maybe more Mario than Gretzky).
    I'm not sure how much an autograph would bump up the value, but if it were to be autographed, I would reslab it and have it authenticated by PSA.
    The best time to sell would honestly be both of those times - retirement / HOF - and not "today".   Anytime he's front and center, interest would pick up.



  3. 51 minutes ago, 2ELIAS6 said:

    We’ll agree to disagree. He wanted to go somewhere he would have a chance to win and that’s definitely not the jets. We’ll see what happens

    He's no longer tradable with that contract.  If he was signed to a 3 year deal, I'd be on board with you, but 7?   No contender wants that contract...  and he cant really be dumped unless it's a market he wants given the first 3 years is NMC, followed by 4 years of a 10 team no-trade list.

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  4. 4 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said:

    A lot of people think it is too long, but Canadian teams can sell the tickets and it keeps the NHL from overlapping with other sports(is what I read) so it is what it is.

    Hickey is a pretty good color guy. Hard to believe he was playing hockey last year.

    He’s got dead eyes though.


    6 hours ago, NJDfan1711 said:

    I get it, and those guys were definitely awesome players for quite a while. The best thing I can say in terms of furthering my argument though is, think about other guys similar to Brylin and Madden, guys who were with us for a while, won Cups or other hardware, and had a positive impact on the franchise, BUT, in terms of the rest of the league, both past and present, weren't quite Hall of Fame worthy.  Who's in that list?















    Sykora and Arnott?

    Chambers, Rolston, Broten, Guerin?

    I mean, the list really could include a lot of guys, and that's essentially my point. In another 10-20 years, are we going to have a Ring of Honor that includes 50 players?  Might as well just include anyone who's played more than 3 seasons for the Devils and be done with it. 

    Yes to pretty much everyone.     None of them deserve to be in the rafters...  but if we had a hallway etc from 1982 (or 1974 from the Scouts) going through the franchise history you could have something dedicated to these players that defined the team during those eras.    As @Colorado Rockies 1976 said, it's overwhelming to add them all "today"...   but if it's something you built up as those guys retired, etc...  you would have a nice collection and a nice night dedicated to the player over the past 20+ seasons...  and it would only be like 1-2 players a year.   Leaving only the truly special players for jersey retirement - of which there are none on the near horizon.    You can only hope this new young core can mimic the success of our last great era, but far too soon to discuss that.


    9 hours ago, NJDfan1711 said:

    I just think it's kind of unnecessary. To me it often seems like the criteria for a great career is lowered when you have multiple tiers of these Honor clubs. 

    I think that just makes it an impossible bar to reach...    like John Madden and Sarge were huge for this franchise for many years...  it feels wrong to ignore that because they didn't hit the level where we want to retire their jersey number.  I feel like a ring of honor just archives a tribute night...  and isn't and shouldn't be seen as anything close to a jersey retirement.

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    On 8/9/2023 at 9:39 PM, NJDfan1711 said:

    Late to this topic, but a few thoughts of my own.  Brylin was a fine player for us, but not on the level of the guys whose names are hanging in the rafters.  Frankly, not even close.  That's the difference.  

    I also hate the idea of a "Ring of Honor" (err, "Fire") that we and other teams have.  I get the idea, I just disagree with it. I mean, there's a Hockey Hall of Fame to honor the best of the best to ever play the game itself, then each team has their own number retirement and jersey hanging ceremonies to honor those who were the best of the best on a particular team.  Why should it go further than that?  A second tier "Ring of Honor", to do what, recognize guys who were good, but not great?  To me that trivializes the guys worthy of jersey retirements.  Where does it end?  

    I don't understand how it trivializes the jersey retirement.

    Wayne Gretzky (99 retired by all teams)
    Highest honor: Hall of fame
    High team honor: Jersey # retired by team
    Honor: Enshrining your impact on the franchise, without plastering it in the rafters for all to see... you continue to share your number.

  5. 6 hours ago, Rob_Ottawa said:

    And bizarre by philly to boot him. Didn't he have a decent season?


    42 points but a -27, ya I guess I'm wrong

    and a real a-hole.
    Not a guy you want to rebuild around or lead the locker room. 

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