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  1. 2 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

    We’re having a conversation about your very poorly thought out statements on this issue. The fact that you bailed out on it doesn’t me man we can’t continue lol. 

    cool kids don’t post on message forums on friday nights. 

    they fall asleep on the couch after half a sip of wine and the first challenge of the great british bakeoff after your kid spent the week with hand foot and mouth disease.

    not to be confused with my famous foot-in-mouth disease. 

  2. 4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

    I’m not, I’m just trying to figure out what the fvck you are saying because it wasn’t clear. Thanks for being such a peach and explaining in 12 posts what you could have done in 1 if you just answered a simple question every once in a while. 

    Am I taking crazy pills? Are my posts not going through? 

    All of these posts are from this thread. Copied and pasted.

    • I don’t want him cut. I want him traded. 
    • at a point per game he is a valuable asset. I would prefer if that asset were traded in the off-season for a commensurately valuable asset
    • I don't want the Devils to cut Jesper Bratt. I don't want the Devils to trade Jesper Bratt for pennies. I am aware that Jesper Bratt is a valuable young player.
    • I would like to see the Devils make a hockey trade with Jesper Bratt in the offseason and bring in guys who compete, who play hard, who won't get pushed around in the playoffs, who don't disappear.
    • I’m not asking for him to be given away for free. I’m not calling him useless or terrible.
    • I think the Devils should explore trading Jesper Bratt in the offseason for a guy that plays like a Fiala or Tkachuk
    • I don't want to throw Jesper Bratt away. If the Devils re-sign him, I'll eagerly cheer for him. I don't hate him. I just think his playstyle a redundancy in a team with massive holes.

     

  3. 1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

    I’m just trying to clarify you point. What you are saying is either that Bratt is a problem and he should be moved, or that on the off chance that some superstar becomes available, he should be trade bait for that, which is just common sense. So the whole premise is either nonsensical or completely obvious. 

    You’ll stop replying because you know that it can’t be explained any other way. 

    I don't consider Kevin Fiala to be a superstar. He's a great, fringe all-star forward who fits this team better than Jesper Bratt. I am saying that the Devils should explore trading a guy like Bratt for a guy like Fiala this offseason. I am saying I would rather the Devils pay a guy like Fiala $8.5 than a guy like Bratt $8.5. I am not saying "Bratt is a problem and should be moved", which is something I've said now eleven times in this thread.

    I'll stop replying because you're hellbent on getting the last word, and nobody beats your lame ass at that. 

  4. 13 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

    The point, which you are obviously missing, is that your concept that he “disappears” is a fallacy, at least based on his current play. There are maybe 35 guys in the entire league producing what he is producing right now. Another two of them are on our team. How many of the other 32 will be available? 

    You know at least 90% of them will not be. If what you’d re saying is that on the off chance that some superstar player miraculously becomes available, Bratt could be included in that trade, ok, sure, why not. But out of those 32 guys many of them would only be a lateral move and wouldn’t even be worth it. 

    So is your position “if someone better than Bratt is available, we should trade Bratt for him”? If so, I would suggest that is a garbage dump of a post. 

    I'll just stop replying because this is silliness at this point, but there were 2 players like that available to trade for last summer. It's not a miracle to assume there might be others available this summer. 

  5. 4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

    Of those 3 guys you mentioned, only Tkachuk is having a markedly better season than Bratt. Guys like Fiala or DeBrincat may be available, but you’d possibly be making a lateral move, unless another Tkachuk becomes available. And the odds don’t favor it. If you want to chase such a guy and dangle Bratt as the bait, that is fine.

    Hell yeah, I got someone to actually engage with me. 

    "Better" to me isn't just "look at the stats, who had more points?". Bratt plays next to Hughes and Nico exclusively. Obviously we've seen that not everyone can put up great numbers next to those two (hide your Haulas) but the Devils have a lot of players that are "like" Bratt. Bratt is a skilled playmaking forward. Nico is a skilled playmaking forward. Jack is a skilled playmaking forward. The Devils at an organizational level lack big, strong, physical top-6 power forwards. They lack players who enjoy getting/throwing hits, who enjoy digging pucks out of nasty areas, who aren't afraid to muck it up in the crease. Even their best offensive prospects -- Holtz, Clarke, Thompson -- they're all small, skilled playmakers. (You can argue Nolan Foote fits the bill of a power forward but I don't see it with him). 

    Kevin Fiala would've been perfect for this team. He's going to go to the dirty areas, he's going to score the dirty goals, he's got a cannon of a shot and he's exactly the kind of linemate that would flourish with a Nico or a Jack. I would love to see the Devils acquire one -- or two -- guys like that in the offseason, and I'm not playing Madden with the salary cap turned off, so I'm acknowledging that signing two of those guys comes at the expense of Bratt.

    I don't want to throw Jesper Bratt away. If the Devils re-sign him, I'll eagerly cheer for him. I don't hate him. I just think his playstyle a redundancy in a team with massive holes. 

  6. 2 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

    Ok fine, we’ll just get McDavid and Draisaitl then. Done deal. Bratt and Johnsson and Smith for Leon and Connor. 

    Who is making this debate? How is this your best effort? 

    "I think the Devils should explore trading Jesper Bratt in the offseason for a guy that plays like a Fiala or Tkachuk" and your response is "hurr durr let's trade Andreas Johnsson for Conor McDavid"? Where are the wires getting crossed here? 

  7. 2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

    Yeah lol

    It's like when people call out 30 goals scorers as being streaky... like it's a problem.

    Like... what's your expectation exactly? If you score 30 goals... it means that you basically score a goal per 2-3 games over the season. which... in my modest opinion... pretty good.

    So to those having a problem with those 30 goals scorers... disappearing... what's your expectations? if you score 30 goals... it means that you didn't score in 52 games sure but like? haha So do yo want them to score... more than 30 ? or... you want the scoring to be spread out more evenly? like steady every 2-3 games... meaning that... if you score a hat trick or like 5 goals in 5 games... it means you'll have a longer goalless streak later down the line....... But... what if you really needed those 2 goals that game to win? 

    who are you possibly doing this for? This is such a garbage dump of a post lol. 

    One time you saw a guy on TV ask himself a rhetorical question and answer it to sound smart and you just decided to make that your entire personality? It’s exhausting, man.

  8. 43 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

    He’s better than a point per game. How much better than a point per game player do you want? You know that’s only like 30-40 players in the whole league, most of whom are not anywhere close to available, right?

    Matt Tkachuk, Kevin Fiala and Alex deBrincat weren’t available, until they were. Taylor Hall wasn’t available, until we acquired him. 

    That’s why I don’t bother with naming names, because you and SD run full speed to your keyboard to say “NAAAAA NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!!!!”. Why waste both of our time? 

  9. 4 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

    Yesterday Jack was sort of invisible for a large portion of the game.

    So if we could trade jack for a guy that brings the same production, control the play just as much (or more) but a lot better on faceoffs, 6'5, 250lbs, never takes a shift off, plays hard all game and doesn't get pushed around for the playoffs. Also if he wouldn't be more expensive than 8.5m that'd be ideal. I'm sure any team having a player like this wouldnt mind trading him in a good hockey trade right?

    I won't point out who in the NHL fits that description since i'm not an NHL gm. But basically that's what i want, please. 

    Are you capable of having any sort of debate without these weird hypothetical strawman arguments that you always win? It’s getting tiring seeing you totally win those shower arguments bro!! 

    Kevin Fiala and Matthew Tkachuk last off-season were examples of that. Neither guy was projected to be available until the summer, so if you asked me this time last year I’d say “idk yet”.

    I’m not asking for him to be given away for free. I’m not calling him useless or terrible. I’m saying he’s soft and prone to stretches of invisibility. I’m not asking for a unicorn. I’m asking for a guy who isn’t that. 

  10. 54 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

    I haven't started to look around the league yet but gotta think there's some early-to-mid 30s vet around somewhere who's gotta be a decent upgrade to whatever the hell it is that Smith "brings"...if it's a guy whose current team has no interest in re-signing him and isn't playing for much, you could probably get that guy for a mid-round pick + Walsh.  We know how it works...in a deal like that, you take your pick and young longshot prospect (I don't see Walsh ever sticking in the NHL, though maybe he gets a look on a bad "nothing to lose" team for an extended batch of games) and call it a day.  Better than losing a guy with some kind of value for nothing, especially if you're not postseason-bound.  

    There really aren't many rentals that fit the bill. There are plenty of puck-moving guys -- Ghost-Bear, Klingberg, etc. But the Devils don't want that. 

    Couple of guys I'd be interested in:

    1. Radko Gudas -- if Florida sees themselves on the outside looking in nearing the trade deadline, he's a perfect mid-round pick for an expiring contract. He's an a$$hole, but it'd be nice to have one of those on our side for once.
    2. Vladislav Gavrikov -- pending UFA from Columbus. He's young to be a UFA (just turned 27 a month ago) but he's a reliable, stay at home defenseman that probably wouldn't cost much as a rental. He's eating almost 23 minutes a night with the Blue Jackets, and is somehow only a -2. Has to be doing something right on that sh!tshow. 
    3. Kevin Shattenkirk -- again as a low-cost addition. Has a couple of Cups from playing on the 3rd pairing with Colorado. He's not great, but he's better than Smith. 
    4. Dmitri Kulikov -- our old friend! Reliable, uninspiring, solid bottom pairing defenseman. Plays his ass off on a bad team. 
  11. List of forwards who make more than $8m in the NHL:

    1. Tomas Hertl
    2. Brady Tkachuk
    3. Blake Wheeler
    4. Jacob Voracek
    5. Sebastian Aho
    6. Filip Forsberg
    7. Leon Draisaitl
    8. Steven Stamkos
    9. Mika Zibanejad
    10. Patrik Laine
    11. Sidney Crosby
    12. Jeff Skinner
    13. Kirill Kaprizov
    14. Nick Backstrom
    15. Mikko Rantanen
    16. Nikita Kucherov
    17. Brayden Point
    18. Alex Ovechkin
    19. Jamie Benn
    20. Mark Stone
    21. Matt Tkachuk
    22. Johnny Gaudreau
    23. Tyler Seguin
    24. Jack Eichel
    25. Anze Kopitar
    26. Aleksander Barkov
    27. Johnathan Toews
    28. Patrick Kane
    29. Mitch Marner
    30. John Tavares
    31. Auston Matthews
    32. Artemi Panarin
    33. Connor McDavid

    Excluding the obvious "they signed their contract 6 years ago and aren't that good any more" guys like Voracek, Toews, Benn, Skinner and Backstrom, if you ranked this list and added Bratt's name, where does he fall? Bottom 5? Bottom 5? Dead last? 

    I don't want the Devils to cut Jesper Bratt. I don't want the Devils to trade Jesper Bratt for pennies. I am aware that Jesper Bratt is a valuable young player. I would just like to see the Devils make a hockey trade with Jesper Bratt in the offseason and bring in guys who compete, who play hard, who won't get pushed around in the playoffs, who don't disappear. I don't know who that guy is, because I'm not an NHL GM. I'm just typing on a message board that I think Jesper Bratt is overvalued by Devils fans, and I'm getting tired of watching the team play games against teams like the Kraken and the Bruins and the Hurricanes and spend 60 minutes getting bullied while Jesper Bratt stays on the half wall and wide of the circles to avoid contact. 

    The team reeeeeeeeeally could've used a Matthew Tkachuk or a Kevin Fiala this offseason. 

  12. 3 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

    There's plenty of guys "putting the effort" but not producing like he does either. And from what im gathering here. Fans also don't appreciate "losing a game eventhough we played well", they want results. And being a PPG, more often than not he's giving us results

    thank you. i appreciate it

    I said we’re lucky to escape with a point and lauded our goaltender like six dozen times. I don’t owe you a fvcking qualifier before every post. 

    I agree that at a point per game he is a valuable asset. I would prefer if that asset were traded in the off-season for a commensurately valuable asset, because I think paying a guy who takes off several shifts per game $8.5m is a paramountly idiotic thing to do. 

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  13. 2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

    We already need one more top 6 winger right now. But you want us to get rid of our best one who's 2nd in points (and a PPG player), only behind a superstar.

    Because you didn't like his effort on a few plays lol And all  that while we're still sitting 4th in the league

    lol typical in me moment / emotional overreaction as we can always expect from you

    I like how you edited your post for a more punchy zinger at the end. Go away. 

  14. Just now, SterioDesign said:

    We already need one more top 6 winger right now. But you want us to get rid of our best one who's 2nd in points (and a PPG player), only behind a superstar.

    Because you didn't like his effort on a few plays lol

    lol typical overreaction

    I don’t like his effort in his career. I don’t like watching guys who ooze talent take weeks off. I don’t like seeing that talent wasted. 

    I don’t want him cut. I want him traded. 

  15. 3 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

    For the millionth time this team needs to add at wing, not subtract. Losing Bratt would be a massive blow, and they would almost certainly regress.  

    I’m not saying “I want the devils to lose bratt and do nothing in return”. I want the devils to replace bratt *and* add at the position. Two wingers in an entire off-season isn’t some dramatic ask. 

  16. 2 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

    This is just completely false. He has some of the best defensive metrics of any forward in the league - mostly due to just hoe easily he can skate the puck out of the zone. 

    Man i can’t tell you how little of a flippity flappity fvck I give about “defensive metrics.” Theyre not even good in baseball, and baseball is the only sport that has analytics totally figured out!

    two of the goals tonight were directly because of lazy bullsh!t from bratt.

  17. i don’t want jesper bratt on this team next year. i just don’t. when he decides to play with literally any effort he’s a top-10 player in the whole game.  he takes shifts off, he takes periods off, he takes games off. he’s an unwilling useless winger in the defensive end and his flashes of brilliance are not worth $8m to this team, period. 

    trade him in the off-season for a player who competes.

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