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  1. On 4/11/2019 at 9:38 AM, Nicomo said:

    Yes, but who’s going against the better competition? Most of the men in the Finnish league are playing there for a reason right? Whereas Hughes is going up against more actual NHL caliber prospects. 

    Liiga is a professional league. It's not filled with players who aren't good enough to become *professionals*. It's not filled with teenagers who won't have a professional career. Kakko plays significantly tougher competition in Liiga.

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  2. 3 hours ago, Anhkheg said:

    After watching Hughes vs Kakko videos, for me, its Hughes for sure. IMO, he is miles above Kakko and if size is a concern, then remember Parise.

    You have to keep in mind Hughes is doing it vs his peers, or at least kids around his age. Kakko has scored at an amazing clip when considering age etc vs men.

  3. I'd prefer Kakko but I think Hughes is great and IMO there's no doubt they're taking him. USA Hockey, Shero, Hynes, the failed Zacha at 2C experiment...it's a need and I bet they view Hughes as their guy.

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  4. 5 hours ago, Derlique said:

    There were a bunch of us in chat, and @jasonmacissac (where is his account!?) posted a link on twitter to the leaked teams moving up. When Chicago moved up, we knew NJ was going up as well. Still fully expected us to be third, but for a good 15 minutes, we were debating the legitimacy of the leak!

    Haha if I were there I could've told you it was legit...lots of wonky stuff happens when Viasat (rights holder here) is involved. You get all kinds of weird things when their broadcast is live but the actual broadcast for the NA viewers hasn't started. There was a minor one this season when the Flyers color/pbp-guys ripped the team during their skid in the fall. North America was on commercial but we don't get those, we get the studio cameras + hot mics. 

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  5. 3 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

    I’m admittedly not really in the loop re: the European leagues. I will defer to you being in Sweden and actually watching, but I always just figured the SHL was below the KHL and the AHL in the hierarchy.

    Oh it's definitely below the KHL, I'd probably put it on par with the AHL. 

    I sounded a bit defensive, but my point is it's a good league even if NHL busts can put up good numbers there 😄

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  6. 17 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

    Yep. Same league Petterson wrecked last year. It’s not a great league, but it’s encouraging to see a kid who’s only 20 years old doing well there. Boqvist had a good training camp this year too. I’d be shocked if he wasn’t on the team next year. He was considered a steal where we got him (36th overall in 2017).

    It's like the third best league in the world? I guess no league is a great league except the NHL then. 

    Josefson is chiefly a playmaker and has been getting his points that way. He ran the best powerplay in the league during the first half, same spot on the half wall as he had during his (brief) PP stints in NJ. 

    20 hours ago, HellOnICE said:

    I don't know too much about some of these guys, maybe MacIsaac does, but are we looking at this possibility next year competition for the big club?




    McLeod (maybe he builds out)



    1st rounder this year (assume it's Top 5?) 

    feels like with the gap year this year in rookies, next year could be very interesting/fruitful? 

    17 hours ago, Daniel said:

    Hard to find a comparable based purely on numbers.  But he appears to be doing better than Tedenby who is a lot older and more experienced.  

    It looks like Josefson is hurt again, surprise, surprise. 

    He just returned after a months absence. Josefson crosschecked a guy, got tripped and fell on the guy's skate blade and busted his urethra. I'm not making this up. 

    There's no point in Zetterlund going over to the AHL next season unless it's Färjestad being stacked on forward and NJ wants to guarantee him icetime to keep him developing. He's not nearly ready to play in the NHL.

    I can see Boqvist coming over and playing wing. He'll sign with NJ in the summer. He leads the league in ES scoring and will be done with this level after this season is up. His shot and 1on1-game has really improved, does real well off the rush. 

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  7. I really don't think NJ can pony up what's necessary to get Quenneville. I don't know how long Hynes' extension was, but I assume it's this season and possibly next. You'd be paying Quenneville in the neighbourhood of 4 million (assuming a little paycut from his current deal) + Hynes' salary until he finds a new gig. I don't see NJ being a part of that.

  8. 12 hours ago, titans04 said:

    I knew Hall had a career year as well but I just looked up the numbers and he's never had a season remotely close to his goal and pts total in his career. Probably unrealistic to think he was going to do it again.  If he had an average year last season I think we would of come up short last year.

    The thing with Hall's season is that it wasn't that much of a change from his norm. He had 45 5v5 points in 17/18, he had 51 in 13/14 in similar time on ice. Where things really happened was on the power play, where he had 36 and his previous career high was 17. I've been on the "unrealistic to expect same/similar"-side of things for much of the summer but I didn't realise how the numbers in the different gamestates broke down. If he's in the same spot on the PP (lots of touches, chief playmaker on the unit) and he's himself at 5v5 with a improved Nico...I think it's quite doable to repeat what he did, or come close.

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  9. 2 hours ago, munichdevil said:

    And yet, he is playing 19 minutes a game for Boston and leads them in +/-.  Moore is a better player than Lovejoy, Greene or Mueller any day of the year. 

    Sometimes below average dmen play above average for a period of time. Keeping him was a non-starter considering the deal he got from the Bruins. He's getting a 96,7% save percentage while on ice and if there's one thing we learned during his time here, it's that he's not a guy who drives that. At all. 

  10. 3 hours ago, Devilsfan118 said:

    Over/under 15 games played in the AHL before he gets called back up?

    I mean at this point I've just accepted the fact that Zacha probably won't be an impact player this year.  I just don't think a 15-game stint in the AHL will suddenly spark him into being a top-6 NHLer.  Could be wrong... hope I'm wrong.

    But, strictly imo, this is the beginning of the end for our hopes of him ever developing into more than a bottom-6 plug.


    Under. It's a confidence thing. He didn't unlearn how to hockey and they're not gonna leave him down there until he's ready to be a top-6 forward, because...well, that'll take some time.

  11. On 11/3/2018 at 5:35 AM, nessus said:

    A couple things I noticed about some of our prospects:


    Jesper Boqvist is doing pretty well this season in the SHL, after a slow start. 11 points in 14 games.

    Davies and Walsh are off to strong starts. Walsh scored twice in his first game this season. Davies with 7 points in his first 6.

    It's a small sample size, but Xavier Bernard looks to be developing his offensive game this season with 10 points in 16 games.

    Talvitie has 1 point per game in his first five in his first season with Penn State.

    10 ES points for Boqvist, he's been great. 

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  12. 3 hours ago, nessus said:

    As a major Zacha fan since he was drafted, I really think this the right move, and something that should have been done last season, when he first started struggling. I touched on this in another thread, but Zacha hasn't ever mastered a competitive league (AHL, OHL, etc.), and was expected to be a key piece at the NHL level from the start. He seems to have been carried by his draft position, rather than his actual accomplishments, which really is not his fault at all. That is in addition to the team's desperate need for a skilled center during a time when Scott Gomez had just been the team's top center. It has been clear to most of us that Zacha is developing at a slower pace than many other players, but then he was forced to speed that process up. Sending him down will help him refine all of these areas of his game that we've only been able to see glimpses of at the NHL level. Even if he had stuck in the OHL for an additional season to really iron out his game, that really would not have hurt his development. It certainly didn't for Barzal.

    I just wonder if his window to blossom into a consistently effective NHL player has closed, and this move was made too late. Does this type of "window" actually exist? You look at a guy like Rantanen who had a full season in the AHL before playing his official rookie season. I'm not saying that Zacha would have ended up like him, but I think that sort of transition would have been much more beneficial for Pavel, and maybe could have prevented some stunting.

    I don't think he has developed that much slower than many other players, I think he wasn't that good to begin with which was indicated by his lack of scoring prowess vs his peers. I disliked the pick at the time (my tombstone will say "Wanted Mat Barzal") and he was one of two players I thought they 100% shouldn't take at that position (Crouse the other).  

    Before the season I thought the reasonable scenario with him was a 3C going forward and I don't think that window has changed, but if people are hoping for more...well, I admire the positive mindset I guess-

  13. On 11/1/2018 at 5:45 PM, Daniel said:

    They have more information and certainly more experience.  But it's not worth anything if they have poor judgment or value the wrong things.

    Painting with an extremely broad brush here, but scouts are good at identifying what a player is good/bad at. Weighing those things and valuing them...another thing entirely. Point was passed over because he's small and Tampa's made a killing of drafting small-ish players in later rounds. 

  14. 13 hours ago, devlman said:

    Well if he doesn't turn out to be a huge ppg type player then you have to assume he would settle into a third line role. And with his blazing speed and vision I can totally see his evolution going that way and being pretty good at it based on the tools he possesses.

    Uh there's a lot of space between elite talent and third liner. How it's an either or is beyond me. 

  15. 16 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

    Looking through the list of players that had their C’s stripped and some of the best players of all time are one there...

    Hull, Pronger, Niedermayer, Lindros, Sakic, Modano, Thorton, Lecavalier, Tkachuk...

    And all those were surrounded by plenty of controversy when it happened. Why you'd wanna invite that on a team that had nothing but positives last year is beyond me. I honestly doubt the positives would amount to more than a portion of the fanbase being pleased. 

  16. 3 hours ago, vadvlfan said:

    Besides Greene, Moore saw a decent amount of time 3 on 3 in OT because of his great wheels/shot. Who's going to be 2nd D-man this year?

    A lot of folks here think Greene age is hurting him. Yet, to Hynes, he's clearly MOST reliable D man he has at least on PK 5 on 5 & 3 on 3. IMO I'll bet Shero gets more calls for Greene availability .  I'm hoping one of these younger guys starts to eat away at some of his minutes. I'm guessing Sami will be that guy.

    Vatanen/Butcher/Greene will be the top 3, I bet. 

    I really don't think Shero will get many calls about Greene. Teams aren't lining up to trade for 35 year old dmen with another year at 5m. Vatanen won't eat away Greene's time, at least not significantly, because they don't play the same side. Butcher/Mueller might, on the other hand.

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  17. 17 hours ago, Kinkyisth3b3st said:

    Low-key a big deal that it's a 1-way contract. I guess he replaces Moore's spot on the team this year, which is fine with me. Hope Butcher and Severson can take big steps forward this year. Hope Greene takes big steps towards retirement this month. 

    Taking Moore's spot insofar as being on the NHL roster, yes. But obviously they're nothing alike in terms of style and not the same handedness. 

    I don't know about this deal. Everything about his career so far has been weird - they stick him on the top pairing and plays brutal minutes, in which he got absolutely crushed. If Lovejoy hadn't been a thing (and hadn't been great at 3RD) I guess that'd been his slot but it still amazes me that he went from top spot to no spot. I just wonder how they'll manage it this year, logically he'd compete and split time with Lovejoy because that's the role I can see him managing and also where he probably slots in long term. But I've got a feeling one of them will play further up in the lineup than they should.

  18. 6 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

    Well to be fair in 2003 you could be blindfolded and throw a dart at the selection board and get a superstar lol

    The Rangers were drunk in addition to blindfolded.

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