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Everything posted by HellOnICE

  1. ?????? Too soon maybe but Seth Jones and Bouwmeester out.....ladies and gentleman, Sami Vatanen come on down.....
  2. I think we need guys that are personal to this team, we should hold on to Kyle and Blake and even have them share captaincy responsibilities with Nico next year.
  3. This team is so bad. TANK. Summer comes, get rid of everyone coaching staff. Get this junk out. I'm done with Butcher - guy is terrible. Soft, Slow, no Size or strength.
  4. Elias wanting to move back to USA is interesting. Make it so.
  5. Lord please may that kind of talent make the roster.
  6. Agreed. I'm not sure what the thinking is on a top-6 guy playing sh!t minutes hurting his development. Send him down and leave him there. Give Bing some help
  7. Probably also Waiver Eligibility and roster spots.
  8. I don't doubt Marty may have said a thing or two ownership, but if Ray left himself open via his 'closed communication' sphere as has been reported by several, when it was clear ownership wanted more collaboration - then Ray wasn't a fit anymore.
  9. I don't know about that - Marty holds a lot of cache with ownership, as he should given his accomplishments. He saw first-hand how Lou ran things, and then learned after he retired, why not use his expertise?
  10. I'm perfectly fine with Stevens in there as coach. Understands the game, can work with people this age, and understands the politics of the sport. This team has a very high amount of former players who are very very smart - the Elias, Madden, Pandolfo, Niedermayer, Salvador, Holik, to name a few. We have guys who have won here, I think we should be keeping them actively involved in hockey ops - there's a lot our young guys can learn from them.
  11. Also Ray's getting paid, not going to disparage an organization. It's a small club.
  12. Ray wasn't given a choice with Hynes, but that came from the team. Not ownership. The team quit on him, once that happens, forces the hand.
  13. That’s moot with John. I’m sure Ray will get some cash, maybe take a consultant role with David Poile to keep warm.
  14. I think we’ll get it. I mean they had last night and on the road now, tough timing.
  15. I went back through the drafts from Ray, and yes too early too tell - but one thing that strikes me is how few defemsemen he's picked with the higher picks he had. Taking out Nico/Jack where he had no choice, but his first three drafts he didn't really pick a lot of D, and most were later later picks which are more crapshoots. We're picking Ray apart now, but that's the gimmick when one gets fired. I still think this game is won by D 1st - and we didn't invest enough in it.
  16. What does it matter? Owners own, they can hire and fire whomever they want. If the team stinks and it's Marty's fault - believe me -e veryone will be on the fire him bandwagon. Sakic, Neely, Shanny, Francis, others - these guys have been positive.
  17. Not going to doubt you here. I think Marty is the Shanahan role.
  18. I have limited issue with the picks so far - his draft picks are still mostly under 21. We just don't know. I think what I wrote above was the thing, and once there is a thing, you go back and look at other decisions and think - "what if they got rid of Hynes earlier when sh!t was terrible?" "Could we have kept Hall, could we have done X,Y, or Z differently?"
  19. What else is he supposed to say? That's the most generic thing to say...
  20. CR76 I don't see how you can get any of that from the happenings. "Read the Riot ACt" etc...There's no indication ownership made any in-kind demands of Ray, supported his moves this summer, and the like. The PK move didn't seem out of the realm of things Ray wouldn't have normally done - so I just don't see this unseen hand affecting player movement. I think Ray deserved a little better here, maybe one more offseason and start to next season to see what was going on. But we don't know what the disagreement was. It had to be something fundamental, I think it has to do with trading guys away now - Ray maybe wanted to move on Sami/Kyle and we all could see that would push competitiveness likely back even further...that's the only thing I can think of. Put that together with "wait a minute, we were building towards something, we added salary with PK and Gusev, now you want to get rid of two vet leaders and producers for this team who still have good years left?" That's what I think is the issue. And put that together with leaving Hynes in for too long, which you can argue led to Hall being dealt for questionable returns, and they see a difference in the direction of the team.
  21. Very thoughtful post. Hasn’t thought of it this way. Is the improvement in play an indictment?
  22. Also 6-9 year olds are the demo for all star games.
  23. I'm on board now for no more GReen Jerseys for a while. We lose too much in them, in general overall, but let's do a original third jersey concept. I'm ready for it.
  24. Put up a good fight against a great team. On to Tuesday.
  25. Watchable and the kids are playing well. Win or lose, that's all I am concerned about. Good stuff.
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