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    GDT: Round 3 - The Quest for a Goal

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    Posted · Edited by Devs3cups

    7 minutes ago, titans04 said:

     Yep, shame on the org for building a roster with zero talented vet presence.  Putting themselves in a position to have to sell off the only two worth even a little at the trade deadline is pathetic. Hooray we have the youngest average age out there, somebody tell me when a lineup resembling anything close to that has won anything? I'll go first,  never have, never will. You need to have a balance of vet talent and kids.  When guys like Wood and Zacha are your top scorers that's a problem.  Someday Nico maybe more than a  good player year in and year out and Jack will get better.  For the most part the rest of the forwards aren't moving the needle on a good team, Bratt comes and goes.

    The defense, well no sense in even going there, there's Smith who sticks out kind of, probably moreso because the rest are dreadful.

    So yes we can continue to be the youngest blah blah blah, that won't win sh!t. Until they figure out how to bring in other guys who can make an immediate and meaningful impact not much will change, we will be a bottom third team. Maybe not a bottom 3 so I guess that's progress.

    Zajac and Palms were goners. They tried to re-sign Palms to no avail and Zajac waived to leave. By the way, Zajac isn't moving the needle either at this point in his career. Keeping them and losing them for nothing would've been a mistake

    Also, I know we're all frustrated, but saying that Smith "kind of sticks out", is such a bad take. He's the most promising d-man we've had in years, plays like a future 1st pairing defenseman, and has had an outstanding season as a rookie. 

    Young teams don't necessarily win. But young teams growing together and developping together end up doing so, or at least become competitive. This group of young players is promising, and there's more to come.

    GDT: Round 3 - The Quest for a Goal

    in Hell

    Posted · Edited by Devs3cups

    14 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

    I'll give you the fact that Ruff doesn't seem to throw guys in the doghouse which is refreshing compared to some coaches in the past - I hate when guys, especially young guys, make a mistake and then they're forever crucified for it.  

    In terms of Covid, yeah, we had it worse than some teams earlier in the year, but that was a solid month or two ago, and literally every other team is going through the same thing, some have it even worse than us.  I can't use that as an excuse anymore when it's literally applied to the entire league.  We're not special, we're not the only ones who get bad luck, bad bounces, bad breaks.  

    Yeah, Bratt and Zacha are out and it sucks, but c'mon, every other team goes through that as well.   Look at who the freakin Blackhaws are without:

    de Haan, Shaw, Towes, Nylander, Seabrook.  I mean, seriously? That's 5 pretty damn solid players, including their captain.   Columbus is without Werenski, Nyquist, and Dubinsky.  Dallas is without Seguin, Radulov, and Bishop.  On and on and on.

    Side note, the Ranger's top 6 has an average age of 27.6 years old. Not exactly comparable with our situation right now.

    I agree we are not alone in this situation. Doesn't mean that it should make it any easier for us. No other team has an offense as young as us. Most of our players are literally rookies. I don't get how that isn't significant. 

    Blackhawks also have a top 5 player in the league in Kane who is basically carrying them, and Debrincat who is shooting 17.6% and is at an over PPG pace. We don't have those kinds of players yet. Dallas have Klinberg, Heiskanen, Benn and Pavelski who are all producing and good players (Notice some established vets in there). Also, they aren't exactly running the league either after going to the SCF last season. So maybe they aren't doing too well with their injuries either? Same with Columbus, they're 5 points over us, with 3 more games played, not exactly ground breaking, even though they have Jones, Atkinson, Laine (Dubois at the start of the season), etc. We don't have players of that caliber yet/our players aren't there yet. Yet, they aren't really in a better spot than us.  

    You seem to not want to take context into this, when it's really important to do so.

     

    GDT: Round 3 - The Quest for a Goal

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    Posted · Edited by Devs3cups

    18 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

    If you think Lindy Ruff has done anything positive for this team so far this season then I think we've been watching different games and teams.  

    As discussed before, the Rangers are almost identical to us in terms of average age.  In fact, according to this article, they're the youngest team in the NHL in terms of average age:  Capitals enters the 2020-21 season with NHL’s oldest roster – NHL Sports – Jioforme

    And even if we are young, how long can you use that as an excuse?  How many fvcking NHL coaches would KILL to have a young roster with two first overall picks like us, and a multitude of other first round picks (Smith, Murray, Zacha, etc etc).  I mean Jesus Christ, let's have some fvcking accountability here. 

    I'm usually never one who's in favor or axing people after one or two seasons (whether it's a coach, player, or whoever), but in this case a message needs to be sent, and it's clear that Ruff isn't working out here.  Aside from the fact that the team has generally showed effort in most of their games this season (can't be said for the last few), Ruff hasn't improved us on offense, hasn't improved us on defense, and hasn't improved us on the penalty kill or powerplay.  So what's he improved us on? The only thing we've improved on is managing to get more humiliated by our arch rivals on their home turf.

    For one, regardless of age, having 2 top-10 NHL players in Panarin and Zibanejad and a Norris trophy candidate in Fox might have something to do with why they're more successful than us right now don't you think? We clearly don't have that yet. Also, side note, the Ranger's top 6 has an average age of 27.6 years old. Not exactly comparable with our situation right now.

    This year, I've seen progress from Zacha, Bratt, Hughes and the emergence of Ty Smith. Blackwood has had some good stretches, even though he's been affected by COVID hard it seems, and even though young goalies tend to be inconsistent. I've been happily surprised by Kuok and Sharangovich, that have shown they can contribute as top-9 forwards for us. I've seen a young team battling through COVID-19 and not giving up on games. I've seen a team not having their captain for most of the season, and having one of their top offensive players in Gusev falling down a fvcking cliff. 

    I've seen young guys getting a shot, developing and not being pinned to the bench at every mistake, as we've seen in the past. This season has never been about making the playoffs. But this team has shown fight, progress and has surprised us at many times during the season.

    If you want to judge this team based of the last week after losing two of their main veterans and 2 of their top-6 wingers to injuries, be my guest, but I won't. 

    We're clearly not going to see eye to eye on this, and that's ok. It is what it is at this point lol.

    GDT: Round 3 - The Quest for a Goal

    in Hell

    Posted · Edited by Devs3cups

    5 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

    Peace out Ruff.

    Ah yes. A new coach will be able to do miracles with the youngest offense in NHL history missing 2 of their top-6 players. 

    Come on man. We're all frustrated and obviously we'd like better results. But the coach isn't the problem. Ruff is working with what he can, which is a group of young and developing players. He's giving them a shot, which is what we all wanted to see for a long time (seeing young guys getting a shot).

    GDT: Devils @ Bright Lights Brah! - Round 2 of 4 - 15 Apr, 730p

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    1 minute ago, NJDfan1711 said:

    Yep, agreed.  And although we might bring in a veteran or two in this off-season, I don't know if there's anyone of that caliber that is available, much less any who would want to come here.  That's all I'm saying in regards to bringing in a couple vets.

    I'd like J.T Miller honestly, I think he could stir up some things in our top-6, and bring a little grit. Sure he isn't a world class player but he can bring something this team needs. 

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    GDT: Devils @ Bright Lights Brah! - Round 2 of 4 - 15 Apr, 730p

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    Posted · Edited by Devs3cups

    7 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

    You mean like the veterans Palms and Zajac we had and just shipped out?  Not trying to be an ass, but just pointing out that, even if you're right and we do sign a few vets in the off-season, what's to say they do any good to help improve the team or are any different than guys who were here ?

    Zajac is a 35 year old player that clearly wants to win given he waived his NTC to go play in the playoffs. What makes you even think he would've re-signed here? Should we have lost him for nothing?  Plus, I have no doubt that if he wants to come back to play on the 3rd/4th line, Fitz will bring him back. 

    There have been multiple reports that an extension with Palms has been discussed and worked on for a while. Nothing came out of it as Palms clearly never accepted the offers given to him. So, once again, should we have kept him and lost him for nothing?

    All I'm saying is there is a 100% chance Fitz tries to bring a few "veteran" players via FA or trades. Doesn't mean they have to be over 30. Who knows, maybe we'll get a big fish who sees the promise in our young core as some do? One can dream. Nobody can be sure of the impact players will have with a new team. That's sports. 

    GDT: Devils @ Bright Lights Brah! - Round 2 of 4 - 15 Apr, 730p

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    Posted · Edited by Devs3cups

    I don't think people realize how low a 22-year old average for our forwards is. It's incredible. We can expect 2-3 veteran signings up front during the summer. This should balance stuff nicely with Jack, Nico, Pav, Bratt, Shara, McLeod, Kuok, and others.

    I have no problem with our young players and I like how they've progressed all season and how Ruff handled them. But there is no way you can ice a lineup like this for the start of next season. No chance. 

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    GDT: Devils @ Bright Lights Brah! - Round 2 of 4 - 15 Apr, 730p

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    Posted · Edited by Devs3cups

    6 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

    Agreed, but I think we've seen he makes the tough saves when it counts.  He is just asked to do too much.  Insane amount of 2 on 1's, terrible defensive coverage, tons of sh!ts, lots of penalties.  Etc etc.  Blackwood isn't perfect, he's not Jesus or God, but he's pretty damn good.  He isn't the problem on this team.

    100% agree. He isn't a problem on this team, he's a young player developing, as are most of the players on our team at the moment.

    So, who do you think is the problem?  We have an EXTREMELY young team. In fact, we have the youngest forward group in NHL history (tied with the 1981 Buffalo Sabres).

    I'm extremely happy with they way they've handled themselves all season considering they are young players, playing for a new coach (who has done well in bringing their game up imo), and played through COVID in a sh!t season. Most teams are more experienced and have vets around (I'm sure this will be addressed in the summer). 

    Sure, the "old team" excuse came around a few years ago, but I sure as hell would rather see a team of our young future guys playing and developping than losing with Micheal Ryders and Cammalleris and Damien Brunners around.

    GDT: Devils @ Bright Lights Brah! - Round 2 of 4 - 15 Apr, 730p

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    7 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

    Blackwood should request a trade.  He could win somewhere else, pretty easily.  He ain't gonna win here. Not with these idiots.  I'm ready to say bye bye to Ruff already.  I've seen enough. 

    He hasn't exactly been lights out these last few weeks. They're a young team, and I'm pretty sure they all see what they can accomplish if the keep on growing as a group. We have a talented group of young players that has developed nicely this season. 

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