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  1. On 7/4/2022 at 5:12 AM, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

    I am not sure what you are trying to achieve with this other than making yourself look quite stupid. 

    Do you know what the word consensus means? 

    Trying to revise history to somehow make it look like the Devils made a huge mistake is nothing short of ridiculous. If anything the Devils made the right choice because there were a lot of people still gunning for Patrick at #1. 

    I was told literally "no one", nada, zip had Makar as potential #1 and that it was always between Nico and Nolan.  I show evidence that at least one scout had him going at #1 and now I am told they were being sarcastic along with a bunch of vocabulary gymnastics.

    Getting a good player while passing over a generational talent is a mistake, no?  Saying you are glad that the Devils got the 4th best out of the top 5 because they could have gotten #5 is asinine.

  2. 3 hours ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

    “Hey everyone, we took a poll of 100 people and it was nearly unanimous but unfortunately one guy said we should slam our nuts in the screen door so everyone line up”

    I guess the meaning of "no one" and "everyone" has somehow changed.

  3. 3 hours ago, MB3 said:

    I AM ONCE AGAIN ASKING INVISION FORUMS TO MODIFY YOUR BLOCK FEATURE SO THAT I CAN’T SEE THIS TROLL BEING FED. 

    I AM ONCE AGAIN ASKING INVISION FORUMS TO MODIFY YOUR BLOCK FEATURE SO THAT I CAN'T SEE THIS TROLL BEING FED BECAUSE I HAVE NO SELF CONTROL.

  4. 3 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

    Wow. One scout. Quite a crowd there. 

    I kept hearing that "no one" had Makar as their #1.  It is quite interesting to see a lot of you still holding onto your guns that it was the case when I have no supplied two pieces of evidence that at least someone had Makar #1.

  5. 19 minutes ago, Crisis said:

    Are you feeling as though you are the gentleman in this photo?

    Yup as I know I am going up against an army of "Hischier was the right pick" apologists.

    17 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

     

    That's why I brought it up.  Predictably, Devils fans are having a meltdown over pretty accurate assessment (I would have put Hischier #7 but the point still stands).

  6. On 6/24/2022 at 7:13 AM, TinaLee said:

    I was Petr’s girlfriend and we lived together back then.  He and Patty were friends and I was close with his girlfriend as well.  Their attitudes and outlook were very different but being the 2 youngest guys on the team and both being from Czezh made them friends that they might not have been otherwise.  Being opposite made them compliment each other.  I can say for certain that they were good friends.

    Yes, I totally believe you random poster who is posting on an 8-year old thread.

  7. 11 minutes ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

    I follow him on Instagram and he looks like he is very much enjoying life up there. 

    Alberta is basically the Texas of Canada and Calgary is often described as being very much like Dallas in terms of culture.

  8. 19 hours ago, StarDew said:

    Mondou has been there forever.  That plus his age I think he likely retired.  I still remember Rissmiller as a player on the Rangers but outside of that I cannot think of anything else he has done.

    As for Fiala, stinks we couldn't get him but I can imagine Guerin was really set on a first rounder in this years draft and giving up a #2OA for a guy like Fiala is a bit much.  If the Devils are moving that pick I would want someone along the lines of Tkachuk, Pasta or DeBrincat.  If it is moved for a guy like Fiala I would be annoyed and if it was for a guy like JT Miller I would hammer him forever with the moniker of Failure Fitz.

    However, I still have a feeling that our off-season will mostly consist of us signing someone like Gaudreau to a contract that will have a good first 3 years and a miserable 4 years after.  However, that is assuming he takes a hometown discount.

  9. 52 minutes ago, Crisis said:

    Draft master Yzerman also took Drouin with the 3rd overall instead of Seth Jones, Lindholm, Monahan, Horvat, Mirco Mueller, Guentzel, etc.

    Drouin turned into Sergachev lol.

    Just now, MadDog2020 said:

    They did? I wasn’t aware Hischier was on the board when Colorado picked Makar. 

    My mistake; Devils chose Hischier over Makar.  That makes it even worse lol.

  10. 2 hours ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

    In the 2016 draft, Colorado took Tyson Jost, Cameron Morrison, and Josh Anderson in the first second and third rounds respectively. In 2015 they took our own Utica standout AJ Greer in the second. 

    Tampa took Slater Koekkek 9 picks before they took Vasilevskiy. In 2015 they drafted superstars Mitchell Stephens and Matthew Spencer with their second round picks (no firsts). They took Brett Howden in the first in  2016 instead of Adam Fox or Alex Debrincat.  They left Brannstrom and Liljegren on the board to take Cal Foote in 2017. 
     

    Literally every team has hits and misses. Some have more than others, and some are way better at developing players. 

    Again, for the I don't know how many times now, I said it is about hitting more than not.  I never said they have to be perfect, but the core of Tampa was drafted by Yzerman and he got a pretty good return for Drouin in Sergachev (and not one of Shero and Fitz's patented picks and parts for other teams most expendable players).  Not only that, but most of their current core players were drafted before 2016, so that is an interesting line to draw since you know they were picking in later parts of the first rounds after that.

    Colorado took Ratanen in the first round in 2015.  That makes up for Greer in the second round.  Hell Ratanen alone is better than all of our 2015 picks combined.  In 2017 they chose Makar over Hischier.  They picked MacK with the first overall in 2013 even though they were "set" at center with Duschene and Stastny.

    All I am saying is that the Devils are a team that has more misses than hits.  The fact that the Devils also suck at developing players is just a double-whammy.

    42 minutes ago, slasher72 said:

    Some organizations are 'ok' with being mediocre and don't want to make changes as long as revenue is getting generated. I'm starting to think that could be the case with ours. 

    The 2015 selection on Zacha was more Lou-Conte but 2016 onward there's no excuse. The Devils are just a bad organization from top to bottom and have been for a long time. 

    Shero gets equal blame for Zacha.  He was the GM at the time he was sitting at the table at the draft.  He could have stopped it.

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  11. 1 hour ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

    You’ll find that with every single scouting department in the league. It’s the nature of the draft. You don’t have a little piece of paper that says McLeod will definitely be a 4th liner and Makar will be a Norris winner in his 3rd year. It’s all projection, predicting, and then environmental. The Makar that developed in Colorado may not have been the Makar that develops in NJ or Philly. 

    For example that same scouting department found Bratt in the 6th so it’s not like 30 teams decided they just didn’t want him 6 times until we took him. 

    Yet some scouting departments tend to hit bigger than others.  If the nature of the draft tends to be a crapshoot, then that wouldn't happen as everyone would eventually gravitate towards the mean.  Saying that Colorado, Tampa and Steve Yzerman are just lucky with their picks is insulting to them.

    1 hour ago, jagknife said:

    No one is defending the scouting department, but you’re acting like everyone in the world knew Makar would be an absolutely amazing defender. Who knows, maybe if we draft him, he looks at the disasters you keep pointing out and pulls a Kerfoot, holds out, says fvck jersey, and runs away. Or under the absolute disaster of Nasraddine, he flounders and becomes a raging alcoholic and stops playing anything resembling hockey.

    You want to sh!t on scouting, why not give kudos to Colorado’s development of him, cause based on what we saw of our staff, he wouldn’t be playing that well in jersey.

    I am not exactly comforted in knowing that both the Devils scouting department and development department are both fvcked.

  12. 4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

    I didn't edit fast enough. So the other half that didn’t get players better than Barzal, they just all missed the fact that he was an All-Star in the making?  
     

    You can find a guy like this in every year’s draft. at least one. 

    It's not just that one year.  Devils chose the 2nd worst player in the top 10 in 2015 with the #6 overall.  They chose a 4th line center in McLeod over a top pairing D-man in 2016.  They chose a good center at #1 over a generational D-man, they chose Smith who is currently barely an NHL player over Miller and so on.  That's a lot of fou-tips and singles when other teams are hitting home runs.  Why are people still making esxcuses for this scouting department?  What have they done to get this much of a benefit of a doubt?

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  13. 2 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

     

    Absolutely. That’s my point, you can scout as much as you want, it doesn’t guarantee you anything. Do you think 13 teams just failed to properly scout Barzal?

    At least half of those teams chose players as good or better than Brazal.  I don't think Colorado is upset about picking Rantanen at 10 overall when Barzal was still on the board.

  14. Just now, mfitz804 said:

    Draft position offers no guarantees. Consider this starting lineup that we, and a bunch of other teams, could have had:

    Barzal-Ryan McLeod-Zegras

    Makar-McAvoy

    Demko (or Needledickovich from Detroit)

    Almost every position in your lineup has a better player than what we have now.

  15. 23 minutes ago, jagknife said:

    In this alternate universe, if we draft Makar we probably aren't getting Jack.

    How?  Makar didn't even start playing a regular season game until the 2019-20 season.

    Also, is this supposed to be some kind of defense of Nico?  That is basically admitting we missed on the Nico pick.

  16. 6 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

    This is quite an over simplification of a complicated situation. Makar and point were scouted. That’s why Makar went 4th, everyone knew he had talent. The problem , as explained several times, is that playing against lower competition means scouts aren’t able to judge if success will translate to the NHL or if they just look good against bad competition. 

    It’s like watching a 15 year old play against 6 year olds. Yeah he looks great but does that mean he’s a future all-star?

    I don’t like Shero’s tenure and I think he made a lot of mistakes, but taking Nico wasn’t one of them without using 20/20 hindsight. No one had any way of knowing Makar would be what he was, which his why Philly and Dallas also passed 

    Right now a majority of this board wants to take a player #2 overall based on him putting on a show at a tournament where he played against far inferior competition.

    I never said Nico was a bad pick.  However, he wasn't the right nor the best pick.

  17. 11 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

    If both Point and Makar recently came out of the same Junior League... then maybe it's time (for scouts) to start respecting that league a little more?

    Absolutely not.  According to many, NHL scouts with their 6-figure salaries cannot be expected to do well at their job.  The draft is all a crap shoot, blah blah blah.

  18. 3 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

    Without reading the whole post, I will just tell you that we’e seen this movie before, and it always ends with some sucker stepping in to help them out with their sh!tty contracts and mistakes.  I see no reason why anything will be any different this time around. They ALWAYS find their way out of cap issues. 

    This right here.  I really cannot think of any other team that was supposed to be in cap Armageddon actually get into that situation.  There are always cap floor teams willing to take on bad contracts for a price (typically a pick like the Marleau trade to Carolian that the Devils should have totally done), dumb GMs willing to seemingly lend a helping hand to these teams with bad trades, and the ever-present LTIR workaround that Tampa and Vegas have recently used.

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  19. I may have asked this before (too lazy to look) but is anyone here going to the Meigray expo?  It is on July 16th and I will have a table again this year.  I have a preliminary list of jerseys I am bringing as I can only physically bring about 40% of my collection to the expo otherwise it gets unwieldy.

  20. 1 hour ago, Crisis said:

    fvck right off with this.  You said that both Abbey and Chris Ryan have both come out and publicly stated that the Devils have threatened to take their media credentials away if they asked tough questions and you have failed to prove that it actually was said.  That's literally it.  I just want to see where this was said.  JFC.

    lol and I told you before that I am blocked by both.  If I wasn't and had some time on the side to search through 3-4 year old tweets of theirs, I might oblige.

    But I am still 100% convinced if another poster made the same post as me you would be inclined to believe them.  I guess breaking the Blackwood news wasn't enough to overcome my reputation lol.

  21. 12 hours ago, jagknife said:

    I think it’s the product of the digital age. Sure the Post sells papers to however people live in NYC, so they can afford to keep guys like brooks gainfully employed. They also have a bigger reach. The Post is recognizable. And, as it sickens me to say it, the Rangers are the Rangers and just by name generate clicks and internet searches. We just don’t when we’re not good. 

    i don’t think, though, Devils ownership takes kindly to bad press though and probably wants to maintain this good Boy Scout image they seem to love trying to be the heroes of Newark.

    I’m optimistic of Novo. I hope he evolves to being as good as Gross was for his limited time. If we’re exceptionally lucky, he’ll be the next TG

    That's the main reason for this.  It's also a way for the Devils to control the narrative.  Why focus on the fact that the Devils have missed the playoffs in 9 of the past 10 seasons, have holes all over their lineup, and missed the last WC spot by almost 40 points in the season that their GM declared he wants to play meaningful games in March?  The Devils don't want us to focus on that but instead focus on which players are nice and which ones have recently gotten a haircut.  It also doesn't hurt when their team-employed reporter fills the void with updates about her shoes rather than speaking to management or agents coming up on FA.

    Just now, mfitz804 said:

    So “it” did happen, “it” being she made that statement that it was threatened, not her credentials being taken. I don’t know why this is hard to understand. 

    Exactly.

    I really don't know why my posts are being interpreted as if I am saying that Abby literally did have her credentials taken away.  The threat of it by the Devils seemed to be enough to keep her in line.

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