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Pepperkorn

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  1. I think a lot of his innuendos regarding events on the Devils are pretty much crap. End of the day it's on Lou. So a lot is just damage control and softening of his past mistakes to make the Leafs a more attractive destination IF any of his policies drove players away. There is no doubt in my mind Zach Parise's leaving had very little to do with money - and I dont see Lou allowing himself to be hi-jacked to THAT degree - Suter or some other buddy would have to have been in the deal too I'm sure just to soften the Langenbrunner fiasco as distant as that may seem to everyone now. Fact is - over-paying for "character" players hamstrung the team a lot IMO. I think the chatter about the Devils encouraging players to play hurt is upsetting to Lou. I might be misinterpreting a little but still. As if he couldn't pay a better medical staff? As if he couldn't make that a priority for some reason? Like ownership was saying "Hell no - put that injured guy out there - his absence will hinder the bottom line!" I think it just never really occurred to him how to fix the problem. I wish that the Devils had been able to mediate a wedding of old knowledge with new. I get that it's not worth the effort with so much to do. I just think it could have been handled with a lot more integrity and confidence. I have to say - I am impressed with Shannahan's confidence. Although we all know what they say about confidence. It's that feel you get before you fully understand the situation.
  2. You didn't understand what I wrote. No, I'm not cryptic - you all just rush through until you get the chance to blab whatever you want to. I do it too. But if you respond it will be with some defensive bullsh!t as if I even care what you think of me or what you have to say What I wrote (in more plain English for the slow folks) is that the new owners are making very typical NHL business decisions. Yes, Shero and his crew will hit a rough patch and will be fired when that happens. There will be no margin for error allowed for anyone - just as I'm sure none of you here (not self-employed or working for family) has any margin for error in their job. Profit above all. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with any sh!t assumptions about Ray Shero and his crew. It is society today. I choose to live my life in a different way. Marty chose to manage his career in a different way. Marty didn't slam the Devils. Neither did I. This just isn't a Devils organization I feel any loyalty too. And why should I? I said from the start I was here for Devils hockey. For the game of hockey. This is the organization and the game of 21st century NHL. Hockey is secondary. If you're thrilled with the team's moves it's because you love your home state above hockey, which I totally approve of - it's a great reason for unearned loyalty, or you like the NHL more than you do hockey. The people who write on this board are NHL fans - but this is no surprise to me. The NJ fans stopped writing long ago. AND I am happy to follow this new organization. I may end up loving them myself once they hit the ice. BUT I am kind of interested in seeing what Babcock does with Lemaire's insights and I think it's cute he asked Lou to bring him on -- that's what it sounds like to me. I think it's great Lou has a lesser role in the Leafs day to day stuff - very smart. they know what they have. I just find the leafs more compelling at this point. I understand complete why Shero wanted to clean house. But it's coming off weak and underconfident - the owners have positioned him carefully under the bus forcing everyone to say Lou hired him and this was Lou's choice, thus making Shero out to be some lame backstabbing a$$hole. Bad way to start things out -- and now Shero's just going to get defensive and weaker as this team fails despite his changes. He flailed around in Pittsburgh when the organization started to blame him for the failures. I felt bad for the guy. and may I remind you: YOU all are the ones saying "Sure he'll fail - it's the players that suck - but we gotta give him a chance" not me. If you are correct in your estimation of the coming season - yes - this 2 month old management staff is destined for failure -- through absolutely NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN. and of course I'm right... I'm always right anyone who reads what I write knows it too Leafs are going to crash and burn with hockey intelligence style and I just think it's going to be more fun to watch - I'll learn more about hockey.
  3. I'm with Marty. It's not the Devils - it's like any other team. I don't expect any continuity ever again. Shero and his band will be ousted in 5 years so it's nothing personal against him. Wait -- I stand corrected - Philly has always been loaded with dirt bags and actively encouraged borderline cases to the dirt bag side. Rangers have always gotten completely confused by the concept of celebrity in the city. No one gets NYC is what it is. The more normal you are the stronger you are - if you try to be or worse yet really believe you're special you'll sink before you start. and Maple Leafs are just... losers we'll see if that changes. Good on Shannahan for trying.
  4. I think it would be neat if Lou could get Stevens some time with this kid to get his fat ass into hockey again. Yeah... that's wear my heart is. It's not the logo folks. It's the quality of the hockey. If it were the logo, I'd have been an Islanders fan all these years. I am not buying into this organization as of yet. They have to earn my loyalty not just count on it because of someone else's past or my geographic location. :-D
  5. I already tried similar logic Chuck. These guys just enjoy the banter -- well - not banter - the stating and restating of the same point in different ways trying in vain to prove themselves "right" Someone really should give out a prize for "The NJDevs poster who was RIGHT today" so at least there is a point to it all.
  6. a) Thank you b) That goes against the whole out with the old thing. Maybe something in yellow and black would be nice?
  7. AWE! now Sterio gets to not think about his statement and just say "YEAH! That's what I meant" I don't think he did though. But it's good you significantly improved upon the moral tone
  8. Well -- I just read Holik's comments -- I thought he was going to say some crap about loyalty. He actually said something very similar to what I said in the other thread. I also have to disagree with your take on it Maddog - I didn't feel that Holik's comments were hypocritical. To me, they came from a place of experience. He's probably been influenced into making the sh!tty choices and found it was self-defeating and dissatisfying. It's probably disheartening for him to see all of society is moving in a very hollow, dissatisfying direction - and they will be influencing people who are looking to actually be mindful, thoughtful, intellectually engaged in the process. Sterio I really like that it was you that drew those parallels. You clearly understand the benefits of disloyalty. With all of your negative rants about the teams struggles and the celebrations following Lou stepping down, I had felt you were clearly comfortable with, and probably even embraced these kinds of values. Why tolerate discomfort -- ever? Right? I do get a sense you've been questioning why it is disloyalty leaves you feeling uncomfortable. I hope you figure that out and don't just flat out embrace "If it feels good do it" or some worse kind of philosophy. As an artist I'm sure you have a sense that public opinion in the moment is not always correct. Profit is not equivalent to quality or brilliance of vision or longevity. Fandom is one thing - but the connections you drew spurred me to this comment.
  9. because reD wants all the old Penguins instead
  10. So...are the Devils the baby Pens now? Or, like, what do we call our Penguin-like self? Re-tred is kind of lame, yeah?

  11. Hahahaha! I am so just going to post that with each new backoffice hire: doobie doobie dooo
  12. so.... is this " " still applicable or did it get traded to Toronto?
  13. As for the past posts trying to say what Lou is saying about ownership -- Think about the situations / opportunities (as you all are). Think about the action taken by both sides. Then think about what rings true. What I read is a bunch of bullsh!t - because Lou cannot lie -- he's giving a few cues for people to invent his pride saving reasons for exiting. The bottom line is the new owners have a specific vision. Lou has a specific vision. Lou was given the time it took for the new owners to get their bearing to right the ship. He did not. He did not earn the trust or respect of the management brought in by the new owners - quite the opposite. Neither side gave anything more than lip service to the other in terms of respect. Neither side was willing to cooperate. Lou's past was irrelevant and his present was unsuccessful -- he was therefore fired. Both sides hamstrung each other. I prefer Lou's values. I think the new ownership way is formulaic and kind of trashy. I'm not convinced it won't work. I'm not convinced it will. I find the Leafs story infinitely more compelling at this point in time. This is a Penguins re-tread from the marketing guys of PA sports scene - yeah -- that spells winner all over it - but it doesn't spell loser. The Leafs have a silly gathering of the great minds of hockey. That just has goofiness written all over it but a fun goofiness - as Terry Pratchett might write "it's a million to one shot, but it just might work" kind of goofiness. Maybe Don Quixote even... I love a good story. I am not a fan of anyone who's primary goal is profit. That's the Harris/Blitzer mindset. It takes away from the quality of the success for me. It detracts from the joy of "winning" the high isn't as high and the product isn't enjoyable if I feel it's a contrivance. Wait a sec - I stand corrected - I see Vanderbeek as Don Quixote -- and he all the while calling Lou his Poncho Via HAHA! Sancho Panza and Lou throwing up and trying to figure out how to keep this asshoe from destroying his legacy.
  14. NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! On the bright side this puts all kinds of my theories to the test! I always think it's geographic - or a karma of the specific location. It will fascinating to see what Lou does there. oh and ....BYE SCOTTY have fun back home Oh I am absolutely thrilled for him. I think it's a perfect change of scenery and he's got a great situation where he can see how to fix this kind of thing. I mean -- I often go on about coaches learning in one pace hitting a wall and then moving on - starting fresh with the same problem - except now you can move forward - you can actually achieve the growth you need that you just couldn't get past in the previous position. Pat Burns is such a great example of that -- always he grew with each team. So it's horrific it's Toronto -- my LIFELONG -- life... it is in fact a multi-generational hatred for the Leaves. so... can we start a Toronto board here at NJdevs?
  15. Wonder if Stevens ever had Lyme before. I just did. Well probably still do a little. It wasn't that bad. I just felt like I had worked out MASSIVELY! then I started to get this bizarro intermittent fever... then I got a bullseye on my ass well... the back of my leg but ass sounds more funny. So I dont think Stevens signed on for the Ice Vault thing. I was telling my nephew to sign up... but I dont think he's doing it this year now.
  16. Fun off season thread. See now -- Lucas and Lou differ in pretty significant ways. Lou was clinging to what he thought was his winning formula - so much so that he actually got further and further away from it. He did not understand the successful portions of the road he took to the top - so he recreated the bad and adapted to the bad (hired same old style player and adapted to the new by over-paying and handing out no-trade clauses willynilly). Lucas's error was trying to be fresh and new and do what he wanted, assuming he just had the magic eye. He kept very little of the good he had captured - and added in a lot of new garbage that came off like a money grab rather than the great story telling. Abrams has had an objective view from a creative distance and can see the winning formula in the old familiar. I honestly don't see Shero as having a really clear fresh productive view on things. He's taking a stab at it, and his crew is doing a LOT of posturing - and it's not really coming off genuine. He's really not convinced he's seeing the right road -- that's a real problem. He's not (quite) being defensive and that's a step in the right direction... but he's not a single bit sure of what the hell he's doing. And despite everyone slapping him on the back saying "Hey ANY change is good at this point" he knows he needs immediate FRESHNESS. And I dont think he knows who can bring that. He's bringing in nothing crisp, fresh and clean as of yet. I'll cut them some slack in that he and his crew can't be genuinely confident until they see a positive result. But the whole thing is screaming of the AHL to me. Lou screamed of collegiate and it worked --- AHL? I'm not so convinced that's as transferable because it's not fresh to the NHL. Collegiate vs NHL is a very fresh take and can turn the NHL on it's head for a time. AHL --- it's NHL in training.... you read about the tactics and you think "YEAH! that's what this team needs." But is it? Is it really? Does the NHL need a shot of AHL in it's arm? I'm thinking not so much. I'm thinking an AHL team mindset is very solvable - very readable. Change management is NOT an easy thing - because change management is more often than not just different grass, not greener.
  17. cool theres still a telestar out there
  18. Wow I haevn't heard anyone over 30 say fvck that much in mixed company - it was like a nervous tick. Thanks for sharing and bring the Devils to the forefront!
  19. Oh what the heck -- I'll say -- we have no equivalent to chiac vs Quebecoin in US english. I have ZERO problem distinguishing UK English from US despite a bloody hell. I have no problem with most US dialects that don't have another language mixed in. What they speak in those few blocks of Baltimore - I have NO idea what that is though. But seriously - I think the difference is probably more like UK vs Scottish I might have trouble figuring out what givn me wee peerie bairn a kess on her foozy heed means. One can guess... but one must also say "uhhh...whuuut?" or here -- this is a more official cut and paste translation: Yon jacket’ll never geng near dee - That jacket will be much too small for you. we have nothing even remotely that out there different in the US -- unless it's a foray into a different language like Amish or Spanglish.
  20. NO PAUL MARTIN. Ah... but it's not the same as a Lou re-tread! This is a Penguins re-tread!
  21. This is pretty much how I feel -- but I'm really anxious. Part of me loves the whole new blood thing -- I mean absolutely no preconceived notions since they're not even in the NHL fray. It's not a reload -- it's a whole new gun! Exciting but scares the sh!t out of me especially since it's the Pens. It's hard for me to think it's not a whole new gun but the Penguins - without the stars they were bequeathed due to a philosophy of failure. I hope we didn't hold onto the failure part. My only gripe with the Stevens thing is: why attack Stevens performance, just because the fit is wrong? It's wrong because of the chemistry, not because of his abilities or any bad choices he made as a coach. AND Nothing he's done tells me has an ego problem. Just get it right. I like change based on truth -- not some fiction that spells failure if it is to be truly believed. Saying it's not the performance but the man is legitimate. White washing it and making the man out to be unskilled is a losers choice. No one in the Devils organization is lying about it -- why do many people here feel they must? Hynes will be worse with Stevens under him. and that's all there is to it -- not Stevens sucks and will make everyone around him suck. Not Stevens doesn't knowhow to coach and his ego will prevent him from listening to Hynes. No. Stevens always listens and actaully doesn't speak up even when he knows he probably should. I dont understand how you all dont know how quiet he is
  22. Well, see, that's what I mean --- when you don't have to work, it cuts down on your ambition. Complacency can only take your happiness level so high. There needs to be achievement. Family isn't an achievement - it's a support system. You support each other through your rises and falls. His kids now have to experience those every day highs and lows on their own -- I mean they HAVE to. Really everyone does. Even in joint ventures people follow their own path bringing the whole to success. There is no such thing as taking time to enjoy life... not on a full time basis. that's just sloth...probably accompanied by gluttony Hashtag first world problems. My daughter seriously talks like that to her friends. She was talking about a year end party to her friend - not texting but talking "it's going to be so fun. I can't wait. Yeah! Hashtag summer is here!" but back on point... The door to hockey has not been closed. Clearly he feels that niggling. He's not like Marty who seems to actually enjoy kind of just floating and interacting discovering whatever purpose comes to him. Stevens isn't like Neidermayer who seems to be able to peripherally observe -- comprehending the entire picture, then make his move -- while all the while being completely comfortable if his opportunity never presents itself. Stevens seems like he likes structure and forward progression - it seems like he needs to feel he makes things happen. I dont think I know him or that I am brilliantly intuitive - I just feel the discomfort of the situations he finds himself in. It's my discomfort. I hope he doesn't feel it! I dont want Stevens to shut himself off under the guise of enjoying his down time and doing things he's always dreamed of but never had the time. He,s been doing that and it sucks. (but he should farm. He'd like that. Being surrounded by life would make his head explode with happiness. Hunting gets life confused with death.) Things come to him when he puts himself out there. He started his announcing career and then all this stuff came to him, fell in his lap. I hate that people here looked at his announcing just as what it was, in that place and time. It was a good job for him, to be in there to find out guys relate to him -- his vision will be broadened and he'll learn important skills. BUT -- will it take him in the wrong direction and then one days he'll think well ... this kind of isn't where I wanted to be but... That's not a fun feeling If only he wasn't so obvious. if only he didn't think of things the way he does. I hate that Neidermayer will sit on his fat ass playing with his kids fighting for the rights of geese the world over -- then one day after apparently dabbling (he'd actually have been secretly lurking and seeing and learning) in coaching the dude will win the Jack Adams and everyone will say how fvcking brilliant he is but ... it's like he CHEATED! I can't be like him... I'd fvck up if I tried. or I'd be somewhere I didn't want to be. LIKE HE ACTS when he arrives where I'd like Stevens to be.... AHHH!
  23. Well -- you can't select coaching around my hero. Although a Ward Stevens combo might have been nice... probably not though. Stevens just doesn't have enough experience. I'm not entirely convinced he'd actually enjoy coaching anyhow. He's a teacher and a seer - but I just have never seen the coach in him. He takes things too personally and that's who he is - not something he can unteach himself. I dont know how he can marry the two pretty divergent parts of himself. Nothing good can come of him forcing that balance - it just has to float gracefully like a bubble balance. Blahhh... but who cares .... I am really not liking Hynes though. it's a touch off... and I can now tell Shero knows it too.
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