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6 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:
If it’s not Lou getting into the Ring next, can’t imagine who else it could possibly be.
Chico?
I agree it should be Lou though. Isles are off that night.
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1 hour ago, Daniel said:
Brooks made some obscure tweet that makes it sound like Vegas selected Josefson. Hopefully there was no side deal for that one other than something very minor like a sixth round pick.
I may be in the minority but Josefson is who I thought we were loosing form the start. After the Mueller trade it I am closer to 66-33 Josefson - Merrill now. He plays well in all situations. Just can't score. I know, get hurt every time he actually gets on a roll. Is he injury prone or unlucky? I also know quite a few would be happy to see him go(which I am not one).
I also thought we were gonna make 1 or 2 more more moves before the protects were in so what do I know.
Hopefully we make the 1 or 2 more moves during the draft because we just seem to have way too many picks. I would be surprised if we gave up anything to protect any of our non-protects unless it was to unload Cam's $$
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1 minute ago, Triumph said:
The Devils would still be sh!t if Parise and Kovalchuk were here. They'd be better, but they certainly wouldn't be good. Parise is a 3rd line player this year and Kovalchuk hasn't dominated the KHL like you would think a guy who was routinely top 10 in scoring in the NHL would.
does Shero trade Larsson for hall? does his free agency strategy change? would we be a more attractive destination? imo our biggest hole is that neither Merrill, nor Severson have taken the next step and quite frankly look like they've taken a step back. Was pretty obvious that jelly wasn't the answer either but I loved Merril's game 2 years ago, what happened? Severson? I'm not a big +/- guy but -10 more than the next guy has to tell you something. Moore shows something at times (especially in ot) but he scares me in his own zone.(and I do admit, sometimes I just don't know if it was the D partner that made the mistake and the other as of now our team relies too much on special teams without an outstanding pp qb. that all being said, my protect list as of now is, 9,19, 21, 14, 6, 2, 7, 28. and I would guess lv takes 16 unless they need to get to the cap floor(one can dream)
but this is a big off season for shero so I hope that isn't our list but he is able to incrementally upgrade this roster or just pull off a big trade with all of our picks. And obviously a big first round pick coming up.
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off tangent question.
name of the song as the puck was about to drop to start the third period?
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3 hours ago, sundstrom said:
maybe but parenteau's knock is that he is not a good skater - i don't know if you want him with 9-14.
Is this the first move Shero has made the didn't involve us getting faster? Not saying it is a bad move, just seems out of character for Shero from what I've seen so far.
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As a northern Jersey guy I've always said that the Driscoll bridge is central jersey. Not the area or towns around it, just the bridge itself. I know it is a tad more complex than that, but it works for me.
Please save the 'Taylor ham' line names until Zacha is on the lines (was hoping with patty also) so you can have Taylor hall with czech(cheese). Or is that pushing it?
whats the goosey / mischief / cabbage night breakdown?
Yes i'm getting antsy for the season, would like to talk about the team but have no clue what to expect again so I am reading back on off topic threads and will try to wait 15 games to take it all in.
Joe
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i really don't understand all the hate from the people who don't like that horn. I'm in 101 so maybe if I was next to it. Probably not as a punk / metal fan.
I didn't chant along when it was rock and roll (and honestly I'm quite while watching and will talk hockey but don't usually yell) but I do occasionally now cause it pisses some of you off and it has been a fun cat and mouse game.
start chant right after goal, > play music to drown it out > start after puck drops > announce goal to drown out chant > start chant immediately after goal is announced > ???
Mascot did start the drums over the vuvuzela once so maybe that is the next step. I just hope we score enough to see how this plays out.
Our end of the building does seem to chant along on big goals. Few here and there on every goal, but very notcable on big goals
I didn't mind rangers sucks once a game / period. Hate all the ad-ons. Ric flair wooing is annoying. Yelling 'red' during anthem, just stop, i'm trying to listen to the fvcking song. I do like the 'it's a pp goal, fvck you sam rosen' and the mike (brief pause) miller goal score chant. Bauman used to chant after every goal(and he still gets the crowd going occasionally) , I do like that we have some sort of tradition for it.
Our fanbase is good at 2 things. Booing and yelling you suck. Why take away one of our strengths?
I don't understand the Bourque line in the complaint letter. If you didn't mean it literally, why should i take any other line you write in the letter literally?
calling someone a cretin casue they don't like the chant? I have heard that all good cretins go to heaven but as a Ramones fan and an athiest I'm conflicted.
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As long as he tries to capture the spirit of the thing i will be happy.
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the team is only 32 years old, does it really need Viagra already?
My rep called me this morning and told me they were just giving out a card. I prefer that but i do go to most games. He claimed that there problems last year and that this should speed up the lines to get in. Not sure how true that is because the metal detector seems to slow the lines down more than the ticker checkers. Although I do remember that the scanning usually took 2 or 3 times with an actual ticket and that the printouts caused problems at times as well.
Nothing much to actually add to the thread, just wanted to say that stupid joke.
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Was this move made because of the new org's philosophy of speed? I liked his game the first year, really didn't see much this year. I know nothing of DSP so I am looking for the reasoning behind it, not judging one way or the other.
Joe
Was this move made because of the new org's philosophy of speed? I liked his game the first year, really didn't see much this year. I know nothing of DSP so I am looking for the reasoning behind it, not judging one way or the other.
Joe
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i would like to thank legal weed because there is no other way that we would have gotten a 3rd even it is a year away.
Joe
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at game, haven't seen tv broadcast yet, inisital thoughts
Severson looked hurt, or just off near the end of the 3rd. Seemed to be holding arm or something after a shift in ot.
Trouble getting out of zone with puck behind net a few times. Think the NHL guys were out there so can't blame the rookies. Not sure if it was the Rags pressure, or more miscommunication, but it just didn't look good.
Lots of wide open hockey in the third. No clue if this is our new style or just a bad period, we shall see
Tieing a game in ot just hurts my head.
just go to a 3-2-1-0 pt system so all of this ot crap doesn't matter as much as it currently does Fine,league want a shootout, at least do it right
guess that 4 on 3 pp work will be big this year. Why not just make every penalty a penalty shot in ot? sounds like a crappy idea the league would love.
Joe
Edit to add food review.
They now have buffalo chicken and Taylor ham Strombolis. No ranch or blue cheese, just marinara sauce. I got the taylor ham, was cubed, not sliced. I think slicing like they do witht he pepperoni would be better. With mozz which didn't quite blend well for me. I had one that was out for a bit while a friend had one that was fresh which he liked so that may be the issue. I also think I will try it with ketchup next time if there is a fresh one. I will give a buffalo chicken review once I try it withen a game or 2.
Designated driver free soda is back. Which will let me actually get more food. No free soda last year cut down on my overall food buying
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the you suck part was figured out by the 2nd or 3rd goal. I was at both games. had what, 5k at the absolute most Friday night. I assume your die-hard season ticket holders, the you suck after the vuvuzula guy was louder than when they just had the original song. They even cheered after the cheer to add extra troll. Really has turned into a Streisand effect.
Its been fun to watch. vuvu starts after goal is announced, so mascot starts a drum 'lets go devils' chant. Devs wait to announce the goal during stoppage to go right music, vuvu starts at the puck drop. I see people yelling you suck now that didn't when it was just the R&Rp2.
tonight was a more mixed crowd. bigger, more kids, lots o rangers fans. still many yelling you suck and syncing up after a couple goals. At this point if we play taps after a goal, we will stick a you suck into it.
I did not hear a 'rags suck Ps-Cw' chant the first night and did hear a few tonight. That one always got me more upset, I wouldn't mind once a non rangers game and maybe a few during rangers game without all the accouterments.
At this point, put the old goal song, put the 'you rock' graphics at the appropriate times and you may organically kill the chant after a few loosing years, by making a big deal of it, you intensified just it.
And I think I've mentioned my stance, doesn't bother me, I don't chant it, let others have their fun. Crowd doesn't make enough noise so trying to break up one of the few times they do doesn't make sense to me. i do understand people not liking it, but don't get the intense hatred from some towards those that do like it.
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wasn't an elderly lady that asked the question and there wasn't much attitude about it.I was wrong, was thinking of a different question.
There was a bit of attitude, especially the In 'one man's opinion' question.
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so... say your childhood idol sleeps with your gf.... are you kind of proud of her or pissed? haha
If he is anything like Peter Griffin he will feel like he slept with Jagr.
Better to find out now that she will blackmail someone for 2k then to hear a few months from now, oops, I forgot to take the pill.
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Small season ticket holder Q & A with Shero tonight. Held in 'Boardwalk' area. . Free pretzels, hot dogs and soda, water. Stage set up with 2 comfy chairs. Laughin interviewed him a bit, the fans got to ask a dozen or so questions.
Seems personable enough, couple jokes. Talked about the changes to expect. Says this team isn't as far away as when he was with the expansion team. Expects to be competitive this year. Sees whats been written in the press and is trying to motivate the players off of it. Can't remember the exact quote but something along the line of just because it is predicted before the season doesn't mean it will happen unless you let it happen, Mentioned old devils type of teams. roll 4 lines, although tough in cap era, had a calder cup while winning in 95. Had Elias and sykora in al while winning for example so he is stressing assets.
Different feeling for fans and franchise if you make the playoffs after missing a few years as opposed to 8, 9 years in a row. Mentioned johnny Macs goal in 88.
2'nd question from a fan was about tanking. He isn't worried about next years raft, he is worried abut this years team.
asked if he wants to model after any winning team said not really, more about acquiring assets and mentioned the fast supportive game. He is high on Hynes,
knows we need help on O, but how do we get it doesn't want to sign bad contracts. We have Cap space, we have to use it wisely if and when an opportunity arises. depends on the scouts to be ready when they do arrive.
Not sure about who gets C. Not sure if we have one at the season start. Says both coach and his decision, but has to happen organically.
Did mention the devils always killed the penguins.
Thought he walked a tough line of respecting the past and the change in the future. Some rah - rah type stuff for the fans. I sill don't hear emphasis on D mentioned that much so that does scare me I must admit, but again, you usually need 10 games into the season to get any type of feel for a team so I will try not to worry.
Took pics and shook hands with some people afterwards.
Hugh Webber (actually, he asked someone else who told us) said that the designated driver soda will be back next season.
I asked Laughlin who has the tougher job. Ray, Cory or Cangi. replacing who they are replacing. Matt said Cangi because Doc is still at the top of his game.
Paraphrasing everyone, including myself
Joe
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before I look? He an ex Penguin?
I'm guessing 75 - 25 he was.
Yes he was.
Still shouldn't see the ice for that stupid instigator when the team was short handed few years ago. Doesn't matter how good of a fighter you are, you just have to know when it is needed(that was definitely not the time). Yes it is needed at times, yes you can't be a liability on the ice. PL3 didn't do either well.
Maybe there will be some deboer - clarkson magic and Hynes gets PL3 3 goals. Wouldn't shock me a this point, already in shock and have no idea how this season will play out.
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http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/articles/2009/11/10/a_special_breed/?page
Mentor and friendFormer Bruins goalie Craig Billington, drafted by the Devils in 1984, considers Lamoriello among his mentors. Now in Colorado’s front office as the assistant GM, he knows that most people don’t get to know Lamoriello beyond what Billington refers to as his friend’s “facade,’’ one of the stern negotiator and someone known for his uncompromising, meticulous attention to detail.“Could I tell you more? Sure,’’ said Billington, breaking into laughter. “But there’s too much fear for me to tell you any more than that.’’ Some of which probably explains why Billington, when he finally decided to settle down at age 40, felt compelled to fly to New Jersey with his fiancee so Jocelyn could meet Lamoriello.
“I figured Lou’s one of a few people, along with Pierre Lacroix [his boss in Colorado] and Tom McVie [once his coach in New Jersey] who she’ll hear me talk about almost every day,’’ Billington said. “She’d met Pierre. Well, I had to have her meet Lou.’’
When Lamoriello met the future Mrs. Billington, he invited her into his office and told the groom to wait outside. The GM/friend preferred a private consultation.
“You know, she’s never told me what he said,’’ Billington said. “Shows you the power he has - she wouldn’t tell me if I asked.’’
To this day, said Billington, if he is going to meet Lamoriello on business he won’t show up unless he is clean shaven and wearing a white shirt and tie.
Story I mentioned in other post. From a article with some other interesting stories from when he was inducted into the HoF
joe
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highly recommended
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Can we ban Chere from, this site. He is such a troll now. 'Meadowlands Coliseum'?
Shero is kinda funny. ' I was thinking, “What the hell did I do wrong? I’m not even in the league!
Not mentioned in his piece, who was the player (Billington maybe?) who brought is fiance to meet Lou before they got married. Not sure if was for his blessing, or to discuss it, or just respect, (like meeting his parents)y. Anyway, Lou kicked the player out of the room for a few minutes to talk to the woman and she refused to tell the player what Lou said till this day (or at least when I read the story which I think was out when Lou was going into the HoF.
kinda tough for younger fans to understand him because the 'Lou rules' are established, and when you are younger you tend to be anti establishment. Some of the rational for the rules have been explained int he past. We have always tended to be in the bottom for penalties taken, and to be disciplined on the ice, you have to be disciplined off the ice.
Devils org does a lot for communities without always publicizing it. (My mom works for the town and they always give stuff for charities and events). Like players visiting hospitals. Do it for the kids / patients, don't do it for the PR of helping the kids.
I freely admit I drink the kool-aid but it is because of the respect I have for him. That takes years of observation. Someone shouldn't just earn your respect overnight, so I do understand some of the anti Lou stuff if you just got into the team recently. I will just say i think your are wrong and if you read some of the quotes by former players(not all, casue I'm sure a few that were sent packing were not happy, who got shipped to Manitoba? one of the brotens maybe?) they would run thru walls for him. It may look different from the outside, but once you play for the organization, you appreciate it.(all opinion, but think I Gilmour mentioned it, I don't think Kovy signs with us if he wasn't part of the team for that half season(not sure if Lou signs him without seeing how he fit, although he may have been overruled by jvb ayway) so it's an educated opinion)
I keep this up I may break my 30 some odd posts a year in this thread. I just think this is such a huge change, I just don't know what direction this franchise is going to go.
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What trade offer, the Columbus thing at the draft? I mean yeah it's not something Lou would do (it helps Columbus a lot more to get it out there than it does us anyway, they wanted to prove they really did want Wierenski) but obviously it was the Conte firing that was the flashpoint.
was more the fact that a trade offer leaked than the offer itself.
No rumors of Lou to toronto today. That is how Lou operates,
so io guess I did need the sarc tag
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why do people keep mentioning long hair. We've had players with long hair before. Peluso comes to mind immediately.
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I will miss Lou,
He started the rebuild (even if he didn't say it) with the trade for Cory. Just look at the D and their age. Maybe most people want a full rebuild, but how many fans are gonna sit though that. When johnny mac had that disaster of a start they couldn't give away tickets. How long have the isles been rebuilding (been hearing they are taking the next step for years), Oilers? Rebuilds are crapshoot. Other than detroit, we have been the model franchise for 20 or 30 years. Rangers missed the playoffs for 7 straight seasons and for as much talk as their fans have had. 1 finals in how long? We made the finals while Lou supposedly has had the game pass him by.
but new owners, they want their stamp. will it work, hope so, but i would have more faith if Lou was still part of the devils. Hell Nets went to the finals twice with lou on board, he has a yankees ring as well. I think Lou and his philosophy would succeed in most business.
My favorite Lou story.
1 of the years Scotty Nieds was holding out. A fan waived a bill in the air (single, maybe a 5) at Lou and said, that his is to help sign Niedermayer, Lou turned around, took the bill, said thank you, turned around to walk away with a sh!t eating grin that made me laugh for a good five minutes. The fan just stood there with his mouth open and didn't know what to say
Stood near where the stairs to the devils offices where in brendan byrne so I interacted with him a bit. couple words here, couple words there, but always polite / pleasant to us as fans. Many fans, are fans of this team because of Lou weather they know(admit?) it or not.
what a spoiled fanbase, Last 20 years, Lou, Marty, Nieds, Stevens and doc. Not even gonna mention the short term greats that we may not have seen at their prime but you can tell you grandkids about
i don't think it's a coincidence that Lou left a day after the trade offer was leaked. Must have been the last straw.
I don't know, do I need a sacr tag on that last comment? I think it's pretty funny but I'm an old fart now
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Since this thread has already been derail, I'm gonna babble.
on topic
Gelly,
until this year, I thought he had more value to another team then ours. Yes, he has a shot. that's about it. No knock on heart / effort / desire or that kinda attribute. Just doesn't seem to get D. Just doesn't seem creative enough on O to offset his D liability. There was a stretch where he played well though. I think he was paired with Larsson for a stretch(maybe 5 - 10 games). I've been saying to package him for a while so the people near my seats so when he does play well, it is discussed. Not sure if it was comfort with the same partner or if he was just used correctly. And while he is still relatively young, it's about the point where it clicks or it just doesn't and we have a plethora of young D behind him, and ahead of him.
Speaking of the more value for other franchises. My next point
I understand it is a new regime, I expect change, i expect a new philosophy. Shero has been saying the rights things. I think he handled the house cleaning fairly well. I am just afraid that I haven't been hearing enough about defense in general. No, I'm not talking about getting a big bruising defensman (although i do think you need some size, can't all me small and i'm not saying that's what we have) but I am just talking about a team philosophy of commitment to D. I just haven't heard it(and with the quality we have in Cory (please keeping working on the puck handling, it is so underated, such an asset that is sorely missed) why hang him out to dry?) Maybe closer to camp, maybe it's just to fire up the fans because defense just isn't sexy to talk about (and no, I didn't want Sevens to be coach(sorry PK) and that was one of the very few positives about Lou leaving (not that I think he would have given him the job, but I think the break was easier, but you don't want players with jersey hanging in the rafters to be on the outs with team (and know I don't think Marty is on the outs, he is in a transition, thinking more yogi / and the boss)) maybe it will be an attacking D like when the PK had almost as many goals as the gave up. I will reserve judgement till I see the on ice product, it's just a note in my head at this point.
I expect Merill to take a step forward, I expect JJ to keep improving. The shootout goals show the skill, Can he stay healthy, everytime he seems to get going, something happens. i'm not worried about larsson, I think he has been getting the nieds treatment (not that I think he has talent, casue I don't know many who do, this fanbase has been absolutely spoiled by some of the players we've seen) learn to be comfortable on D and the O will come. I do think he gets the game, Not sure about qb'ing the pp, but I feel comfortable (most of the times, there are some hiccups) with him on the ice in any situation. Henrique is a wildcard for me. He needs to start taking the next step (I think he has another level, or maybe he just had a couple clutch goals in him and he is what he is which is good 2 way, but not great)
As for this board. As a longtime (off and on) poster, it was the best place for devils info. I go to TG's first now, but when you wade through all the crap, there is absolute gold here. never liked HF and hated when posters tried to bring some of their crap here. ILWT is ok (I like john nice guy, pleasant to talk to, met him at one of the ice cream socials) but more hit or miss for me, too analytical for me (I like a mix, but yes, I do believe my lying eyes) and I'm not even sure if there are any other sites I am aware of.
but, this site is brutal to to wade thru at times. I am a smart ass, I admit it, I mostly post to either point out that someone said something beyond stupid, or to make a funny (and occasionally just babble in the wrong post and put an end to threads). When this team was winning, the negativity is tough, nowadays it is mind boggling. how many fvcking threads do I have to hear Marty or Lou bashing. This team isn't original 6, we don't have a ton of tradition, but we do now, some of us remember when we didn't, why the need for some to sh!t on tradition is beyond me. Tweeks here and there, sure fine, I understand, but it is overbearing when you don't read the board every day it gets repetitive when you do the bulk read. The site was too nazi ish (yes, I invoked goodwin) at times, but there does need to be some order. Tri was right in his first post in this thread.
Game day threads are a joke some days, every now and then i'd like to make a point about a particular game, but have no desire when there are 3 (or however few) people chatting and make the thread useless for actual discussion of the game. Face it people, not all of you are as funny as you think you are. The jinx type threads? Stop it, there is too much negativity on this board as it is, and saying afterwards that you didn't mean it or that you were venting just doesn't help. I know, who the hell am I, no one, but it's fvcking annoying. i'm sure I'm not the only one. I've lived thru GR talking about seeing in their eyes or waitresses or whatever, it gets old real fast.
There are too many posters that don't have the right blend of when to be serious and when to go off on the tangents.
I think I have all of the ()'s balanced. sorry if I don't cause I didn't proofread this crap, don't expect many of you to read the whole thing, why should I?
looking forward to this season. it will be interesting. like some of the moves, lets see what sticks and what we can build on. As long as we aren't out of the playoffs 7 years, we can stand a rebuild
Joe
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Your AP English teacher is rejecting an enormous amount of interesting or euphonious words that can liven up your writing. Aplomb is a pretty garbage word as things go, it's awkward to say and has thus fallen out of common usage, but it's a perfectly cromulent word. Looking in a thesaurus for a word sucks - I recall someone in my AP english class revealing that he would often go through his essays with the MS Word Thesaurus and using that to make his writing more interesting, which is horrendous. So yeah, I get being against that, and I get being against the dense writing of academia, but language gets pretty dull if you limit it to the words you say.
So yeah, in conclusion, use Moore words, not less.
I admit, I Iaughed.
no opinion on the signing, gotta see the whole picture 15 or so games into the year this year.
Joe
Crosby first game full tickets
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I am not looking to sell at this moment, just asking for info / advice.
I was a season ticket holder and kept 3 (2 red season, 1 njsea box office) of the tickets from Crosby and Zach's first game back in 2005. I have sent them to PSA to get graded but was wondering what would be the best way to sell as someone who has no history of selling anything online. Best time, when he retires, when is elected to HOF? What prices range do others think they are worth depending on PSA grades? Looking at the PSA pop report there seem to only be around 60 (combined between season, box office and full / stub) apprised. How much would getting it signed add to the value and would that scale with the rating as well?
I know this site has lots of old members so I'm sure a couple have gone though this or have the same questions.
Thanks