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  1. People think White was bought out to make 5 available for Larsson. Lou actually bought out White so #5 can be retired as well for Tom Kurvers being the trade bait to get Nieds.
  2. I'm confused, how has stubhub killed the secondary market for tickets? Stubhub basically is the secondary market. And as a season ticket holder for a while (not the last few years, pre stubhub) I could barely give extra tickets away let alone let alone get face value(not that I tried to get rid of many). I'm guessing it's easier to sell them nowadays, although you just wont get much more then what the cheapest seats in the house goes for. Unless you are saying the those sites killed the monopoly that scalpers/brokers had. I think stubhub his basically doing the market research for every sports teams. I'd bet that the discounted season ticket offers this year(the 22 or 28's behind the net) and tiered pricing are based on what tickets were going for on those types of sites. If I owned stubhub I would look into providing teams with in depth analysis for a not so small fee of course. Joe
  3. I'm sorry, did I not see an almost 20 game winning streak in the second half? Lou took a risk, got screwed with 2 injuries and a suspension which caused the really short bench. Injuries happen but the suspension was avoidable which is why PL3 didn't see the NHL the rest of the year and he is no longer with the org. Set up the team to fail? really? Other teams have played shorthanded a game or 2 before. The devils have done it in the past during good seasons so that is not a reason for a team to implode. I'm sure the less then max roster didn't help but to say Lou set up the team to fail because of it is off the mark. Loosing a guy you brought in to be your top shutdown defenseman had more to do with the teams slump then not dressing a full roster. I'm not sure why the injury to A-train doesn't get more attention. Joe
  4. I'm not happy but I'm not 'the sky is falling' upset. 2 questions. $6 mil? Coming off of an injury that forced you to miss basically a season, is a $1 mil bump in actual salary (as an RFA) market value or a little over? Are they in the ballpark $$ wise but not length? I guess I'm asking if there are any clues with 6 mil. Why sign today? why not wait until weds to announce it? Either Zach want to test FA or Lou doesn't trust his knee. Any other reason?
  5. deleated because it's the wrong thread
  6. And the cap space (depending on what Zach signs for) will be useful in a deadline deal when more questions will be answered(injuries, larsson, etc). I liked rolston, but he is replaceable. Which young player steps up is a valid question/concern though. How was the play Mrs. Lincoln? As for Hunter, maybe getting off the Island will do him good. If he becomes a sligthly above average 4th line/ pk / hit anything that moves(and you can catch up to) guy I'd be happy. Anything else is pure gravy. I also feel this is a make or break year for Clarkson. Joe
  7. Unless I am forgetting something, the only situation I can think of was Johnny mac going public with his trade request(demnd?) and then getting shipped real fast. Might have even been scratched a game, not sure. Also, I think a goon(hmm, sahsha lakovic, anyone with a lil help?) got traded after jumping in mall fountain on a dare. I don't see Lou trading a guy for 1 indecent of being late, that might have been the last straw however. You don't even troll the board correctly anymore. What exactly did Lou do to Scotty after he held out. Every quote from both sides said the business side and hockey side are different. I'm sure part of Scotty's decision to leave was the 2 holdouts, but I can't think of a thing Lou did to Nieds other then negotioating. If you want to give an example from the previous CBA's with RFA's holding out, Guerin would be a better example basically telling him that of his holdout lasted too long he wouldn't pick him for the olympic(or was it the canada cup where stevens and guerin either dropped the gloves or came damn close(nhl teamates fighting during an international tourney was a great hockey moment imo) and I didn't want to waste a post on it, but the marty dig in a thread as a tribute to Doc is amazing. i can't even begin to say what I want because I would be banned and despite me not reading this board for years at a time because of you specifically and others for bashing Lou(or whoever happens to be the whipping boy that hour) for each and everything they do from supposed fans of the teams, I still enjoy this site and like to throw in my opinion every now and then and point out when someone says anything incredibly stupid.
  8. Is Johnny Mac the last player to go public demanding a trade or talking about their contract? I'm sure Zach knows how the team treats him because he has been in the org for a while. I wouldn't think waiting a month or 2 will trump the last 6(?) years. Back to the thread topic, reguarding the extra $100k if the negotiations go past friday 5pm. Does it count against the cap? I would assume no but the league never ceases to amaze me.
  9. instigating the fight with less then 5 mins which is an automatic suspension when the team was short a player (or 2) due to the cap and at least 1 injury in the game(a-train?). If it was a aggressive hit that got him suspended it wouldn't have been as idiotic(kinda like peters not having the jersey tied down, you are a fighter, know all the fighter rules) I was pretty sure he would never wear a devils sweater again and I know I'm not the only one.
  10. It's not August 1 though. I'm always shocked when someone has been a fan of this team for any length of time expects anything different for Lou. He works at his own pace. He is deliberate with his decisions. Most rumors you hear about this team turn out to be false. It's been that way for 20 years. I really don't see what he has done this off season he hasn't done any other off season. retained a few fa's, picked up talent for the AHL(the kinkaid signing pre free agency was a nice present and seems to be overlooked). To me Lou is ahead of where he normally is this time of year. Maybe the lack of playoff hockey just makes it seem longer. Priorities. Larsson, coach then Zach. Not that Zach isn't the most important of the 3, it's that he deadlines seem to fall in that order.
  11. by that logic going into last year Boston wasn't near a cup win either. I know they got out of the first round, but I thought they underachieved the last few years. Just like all the Julien love now. He's won a cup and nothing will take that away, but I didn't hear how Lou was wrong after Boston blew a 3-0 series lead.
  12. I'm still trying to figure out why this is news? What exactly changed in the last 2 weeks since the last TG post that there was no contract negotiations on going? Did anyone else seriously think that a deal would be done prior to the draft? Did anyone else think that Lou wouldn't elect to choose arbitration so Zach cant get offers? Again, there is a fairly long window after the draft and probably after the coaching decision is made where the 2 sides can have their full attention to the negotiations and get a deal done. This is how I saw it since the end of the season. Not sure why everyone is concerned Zach would take it as a slight. His dad was in the nhl, I'm sure he's known there is a business side to this game since he was 10 years old. If he was truly concerned that he is being overlooked. He or his agent could get in touch with Lou and ask. Every quote I've seen he's said he wants to be on this team and thinks the team wants him as well. He's not disappointed and that he understands so why the big fuss. Now. A week before the arbitration date and they haven't started talking, I'll get concerned. Other than Nieds(and possibly Rafalski), Lou signs who he really wants to sign. I know it's all new with all the instant news with twitter and blogs and such, but I still like the fact that Lou holds his cards close to his vest. Of course as a fan I'd like to know ever single detail of whats going on, but that's not how you should run a franchise. I also prefer hearing status quo then misinformation. Maybe it's just me though. I would think if you have been a fan of this team for more then a couple years, you would be used to it by now.
  13. I'm glad. Lou should be working on the draft and coaching decision. Accept the arbitration so Zach can't get offers. Contact the agent or Zach in the 3 - 4 weeks before the hearing. Deal will be done in 2 or 3 days once it's started. This is such a non story and it is the one thing that annoys me with TG.
  14. does that deal fit with the new rules post kovy's debacle? I don't remember all the new rules, but comparing older contracts might not be apples to apples anymore. Also, is there a restriction on extending contracts of a UFA, prior to free agency depending on a one year deal via arbitration or regularly bargained? I thought one way you can't renegotiate until after the season while the other you could. Again I could be mistaken. My best case scenario is a 1 year (non arbitrated (filing but getting it done before hand is still fine). Pay Zach what you can like the knee didn't happen. Explain the money opens up next year but the paying like the knee didn't happen shows the good faith on Lou's end. which in turns Zach returns by negotiating on good faith prior to become UFA. Don't let offer sheets get into play at all. Work out ranges for offers for the following year to make sure you are both on the same page and everyone wins(except the manic depressives on this board who will go a year thinking that Lou should be fired because he will 100 loose Zach cause he is the worst GM ever or however you think they would react) I think this is pretty much what tri said but I don't have all the purrty pictures. it involves trust by both parties, but when Lou really wants someone he usually gets it. Nieds and Rafalski are the major exceptions. I never got the feeling he truly wanted Paul Martin to stay or Gomez or Gio a those prices.
  15. didn't he take batting practice swings before a twins game a year or two ago? If he did, I'm assuming he's a baseball fan. Joe
  16. So you are skipping the part where Zach says he didn't even talk to his own agent about it? If he hasn't spoken to his own agent, I'm not sure how worried he is at this present moment. My guess is that Lou's priorities are draft/coach then devils rfa/ufa signings then league wide rfa's. Unless there is another undrafted free agent is out there that would fit this team. http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/fireice/comments/zach_parise_answers_your_questions_part_1/
  17. Again, not sure who the good coaches in the SEL are but is there anyone besides Ulf Dahlen(always loved his name) who played in the NHL, scouted here, assisted in Dallas then coached over there with success(not saying Ulf had sucess, asking if anyone has had sucess with a similar career path)? Not sure if Lou would pull off a move like that right after Johnny Mac, but who knows with Lou. He was one of the first to get Russian players with Fetisov and Starikov. He wasn't afraid to have US college players on the team(it wasn't that common 15 - 20 years ago). I think with the way Rafalski blossemed in the SEL, then translated it to the NHL game it alowd him to be confident to draft more Sweedes. It wouldn't be too big of a leap logically for me thinking a coach from a different league (I admit there has to be some familiarity with the NHL game). It would have to be the right person, which is where I just don't know who if anyone would have the credentials, and want to come back to the NHL. Just throwing it out there
  18. With the new owner in Buffalo it might be a long shot now but I've always like Ruff(even as a player) and wouldn't mind him behind the Devils bench. Assuming there is still some friction between Lindy and the GM, what would be the best playoff result for the Sabre's in order to free him up. I have been rooting for them to be Philly becasue you know, it's Philly, but would a first round exit make it easier for the team to part with the coach? I don't see how a coach would leave after winning 2 rounds, but would a second round exit be enough? Does it really not matter what happens in the playoffs and it all comes down to the releationship between coach/gm/owner? Just throwing it out there becasue I'm bored and I really want to continue rooting for the flyers to lose but if the possiblility of Ruff behind the Devils bench increases I wouldn't mind it as much(as long as they don't get out of the second round and the rangers collapse starting the the third period continues by getting shut out game 5) Yeah, I admit it, I'm bored (and won't pretend to have a clue as to who will become the best prospect if drafted into our system) although if Larson is selected, with Josefson, teddy, Tallinder, and Urbom in the system, what would the odds of getting a coach from the SEL? We must have some scouts there since we got a relativly unknown rafalski from there as well. I woulnd't even pretend to have a name in mind either. Just some outside the box thinking that Lou may consider. Maybe if it's just an assistant coach or 'consultant'. The possibility ran thru my mind before Johnny Mac was hired as well, I just thought they groomed him and there was no way he wasn't getting the job. any help from those who follow the SEL on possible fits for a coach over here? Joe <edited for - Rafalski did make the top of a sporting news best player not playing in the nhl list so that was a bit off the mark>
  19. Felix Potvin. And yes I wiki'd it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_NHL_Entry_Draft Glad I did because for some reason I was thinking Kirk Mclean
  20. Kinda suprised no one corrected this. The devils traded Tom Kurvers (the thing I distinctly remember about him was that he couldn't keep the puck in the zone at the point on the PP, was years ago and at the begining of my going to games so take that assesment with a grain of salt) to toronto for their 1st round pick in 91(early in the season, not at the draft). Hoping to get Lindros of course. Not sure how Lou would have handled Lindros not wanting to play here but things worked out for the best imo. And once again, thank you sharks for taking Falloon and not Nieds. Joe <ninja edit to specify that the trade was in season not at the draft>
  21. I'm confused. the old trap was the system of not alowing the other team entering into your zone, not how you played once you are in your defensive zone so I don't see how the trap and 'center bunch' are an either or option. If I am wrong, please correct me I do agree that one of the things missing most of the year was the quick transition from turnovers that created odd man rushes. I just dind't notice them as much this year.
  22. I mentioned in the other thread about using real names vs handles that it can be very confusing to other posters. Not everyone reads every thread, and i'm sure there are more then a few people with the same names that post here, hence the handles. Comes across cliquish imo. Thats not even getting into using someones name just to show off that they know the persons name as an insult or an e-peen contest Also, it's the way it's been done here. I've seen a few post that well thats the way HF does it, well this isn't hf. I don't like the way everything is done here and I've let it be known in those instances but all in all I like the place. If I didn't, I'd leave (like I have in the past and probably will in the future) Then again, what do I know I used my real name so I wouldn't have to deal with crap like this. Bob (and yes I used this same bad joke in the other thread)
  23. on stapletons goal from that slick pass from Kane, Samalea should have stuck with Stapleton correct? Someone else said he had to cover for teddy not backchecking and I just don't see it that way. thoughts? for the 20 seconds(and I think that may be generous) that the PP was set up, looked like a new wrinkle with Elias rotating back to the point while kovy snuck down low(I'm guessing they will rotate back in forth umbrella-like with Rolston going point to point). Was looking forward to see if that would freed up space for Kovy but atlanta did a hell of a job not letting them into the zone clean and not giving them any time to do anything. Not sure if that was designed for Atlanta or if it is the next step going forward. Just something that stuck out to me. I'm assuming it's Oates working the pp, along with the different face-off formations I am very happy that Oates is in the coaching staff mix and hope he stays in the 'family' like robinson has.
  24. Joe B

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    Hamonic is asking himself 'when did Sean Avery get traded to the Devils?'
  25. I am trying to figure out exactly what penalties they are referring to. First one was cheap but I thought the Kovy call was bascialy a make-up so it was a wash. I thought the refs did a good job of letting a lot of ticky tack stuff go without letting the game get out of hand. Clarkson was taken down from behind and it looked like the goalie gave him a shot with his blocker. the other two the stick got under the arms and pulled a player down or lifted him off a skate. My dad actually commented that it was one of the better reffed games of we've seen. Mair may have gotten away with continuing to fight when the other player was on the ice. I know mair was upset to get hit when he bounced up but the linesman had his arm around the isle and let it go becasue the other linesman wasn't on mair. wondering why your team gets a 10 misconduct, maybe it's from bitching about the refs. Ask Robbie Ftorek what constantly yelling at the ref gets you. It gets you every close call going against you. Calling them out publicly, you think they will get any benifit of the doubt now? Unless this is trying to get an us agasint the world attitude in the lockeroom, this is not the right way to go for a rookie coach. Welcome to the NHL.
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