MantaRay Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Salmela joins Martin "Skou-la-la" Skoula on that team's d-corps. Shutdown pairing. Any truth that they are going after Ken Klee next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck27 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Any truth that they are going after Ken Klee next? Not before hiring Dave Ellett as Assistant Coach to run the D pairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 We upgraded our enforcer position and gained a 5th in a strong draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Cam's coming in to do Mair's job. Im cool with that. It will be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheprodigy Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Cam's coming in to do Mair's job. Im cool with that. It will be fun. Not really. Mair isn't a fighter, he's just a 4th line scrub. Cam is purely a fighter/enforcer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) Just for leisure reading...THN's list of "The NHL's five least-improved teams." Devils come in at #2: 2. New Jersey Devils Not only did the Devils not bring in a single new face (outside of 2011 first-round draft pick Adam Larsson), they also still haven’t hired a coach to replace MVP (most valuable person) Jacques Lemaire. Meanwhile, Martin Brodeur’s tank is a little bit emptier; Brian Rolston is as overpaid as he was last year when the Devils waived him three times; and their blueline isn’t scaring anybody. I know Lou Lamoriello has always danced to the beat of his own drum, but this is a little too much interpretative dancing-ish for my liking. Unless Lemaire can coach via Skype, this team looks just good enough to avoid the bottom of the standings and just bad enough to miss the playoffs again. Edited July 17, 2011 by insanity_gallops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmajeski06 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 And yet if the Devils went out and overpaid for some UFA, THN would be the first one giving Lou sh*t for overpaying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberite Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) So, the team that went on an absolute tear at the end of the year, plus (most likely) their best player in Zach Parise, and plus a future face of the franchise = not improved at all/bottom of the standings because we didn't overpay for someone because of his name? Plus the fact that Tedenby and Josefson are one year older and more experienced. I mean I understand that THN is pulling at straws a little and trying to show that we didn't "improve" because we didn't really add any players. But not dipping into the free agent pool means nothing if you are able to improve internally or have a good enough core which should be getting better from year to year. In fact, as the Rangers discovered through a decade of ineptitude, dipping heavily into free agency usually backfires, if anything. Edited July 17, 2011 by Amberite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 clearly if a coach can get devils to play like the second half for the whole season, there is no room for us to improve. that was out right domination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 clearly if a coach can get devils to play like the second half for the whole season, there is no room for us to improve. that was out right domination. +1, we finished the season by beating the team who won the cup without Parise... yeah doesnt mean much but hey... i need something to feel good about alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Eh I don't take THN seriously. So many anti-devils articles over the years I just read it and chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Dude, we signed Cam Janssen and Eric Boulton. That's a major improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS-SS Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 So, the team that went on an absolute tear at the end of the year, plus (most likely) their best player in Zach Parise, and plus a future face of the franchise = not improved at all/bottom of the standings because we didn't overpay for someone because of his name? Maybe I don't agree with everything said in the article, but I agree with what they said in general. Yes Zach is a valuable addition, but Rolston is still a pain in the neck that we don't even seem to be trying to get rid of (at least this off season), our blue-line like they said isn't scaring anyone and unless Larsson plays in the NHL this year and puts a 45 points on his rookie season (impossible) then our blue-line WONT scare anyone. To win in this league you got to have offense at your blue-line and I don't think any of our actual defense-men fit in that role whether you call it offensive or puck moving defense-man. Taormina is not the solution. Almost the same situation as Larsson there. I love the guy and I like what I saw from him, but some people seem to already consider him as our problem solver. While I understand why someone would be excited about him I don't see why someone would think that he will be our PMD and PP problems solver. Unless we find a way to not only fix our PP, but to significantly boost its production (Top 15 in the league) then lets prepare for another 1st round exit because yes the Bruins did it without a productive power-play but they are an exception IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 the best we can hope for is that rolston plays out of his mind to increase his value for ufa, and we trade his ass for a draft pick on the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie B Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 clearly if a coach can get devils to play like the second half for the whole season, there is no room for us to improve. that was out right domination. I wouldn't exactly call it domination for two reasons. First and foremost, we were playing against backups for a good chunk of that run. Second, because a fair share of our wins were by one-goal. The devils were doing just enough to win, especially towards the end of the run. the best we can hope for is that rolston plays out of his mind to increase his value for ufa, and we trade his ass for a draft pick on the deadline. In my humble opinion, Rolston was one our best players during the second half of the season. If he can transition that "momentum" into this season I would be more than happy with his performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microwavepizza Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 So, the team that went on an absolute tear at the end of the year, plus (most likely) their best player in Zach Parise, and plus a future face of the franchise = not improved at all/bottom of the standings because we didn't overpay for someone because of his name? This... i was really happy LL didnt blow up the team, and kept pretty much the team together... they had a hell of a run for the 2nd half, and as other people have said, if the coach *whoever he is* can motivate them to play that well all season, we don't need to add an overpriced UFA to do *whatever* I have no issue with this off season for us... gonna be a damn good season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Maybe I don't agree with everything said in the article, but I agree with what they said in general. Yes Zach is a valuable addition, but Rolston is still a pain in the neck that we don't even seem to be trying to get rid of (at least this off season), our blue-line like they said isn't scaring anyone and unless Larsson plays in the NHL this year and puts a 45 points on his rookie season (impossible) then our blue-line WONT scare anyone. To win in this league you got to have offense at your blue-line and I don't think any of our actual defense-men fit in that role whether you call it offensive or puck moving defense-man. Taormina is not the solution. Almost the same situation as Larsson there. I love the guy and I like what I saw from him, but some people seem to already consider him as our problem solver. While I understand why someone would be excited about him I don't see why someone would think that he will be our PMD and PP problems solver. Unless we find a way to not only fix our PP, but to significantly boost its production (Top 15 in the league) then lets prepare for another 1st round exit because yes the Bruins did it without a productive power-play but they are an exception IMO. Well then, I guess they are one hell of an exception. I don't think I have to mention how awful Rolston's contract is, but what needs to be said is that the guy isn't totally useless. He adds some pretty good secondary scoring and is good on the pk. Is he living up to his contract? Hell no, but its not like he's as ineffective as Peters or anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS-SS Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Well then, I guess they are one hell of an exception. I don't think I have to mention how awful Rolston's contract is, but what needs to be said is that the guy isn't totally useless. He adds some pretty good secondary scoring and is good on the pk. Is he living up to his contract? Hell no, but its not like he's as ineffective as Peters or anything Well: 2007-2008 Red Wings won: 20 PPG 2008-2009 Penguins won: 20 PPG 2009-2010 BlackHawks won: 18 PPG 2010-2011 Boston won: 10 PPG Its hard to win with no PP. Yes Rolston is not completely useless, but at that price its just ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) Well: 2007-2008 Red Wings won: 20 PPG 2008-2009 Penguins won: 20 PPG 2009-2010 BlackHawks won: 18 PPG 2010-2011 Boston won: 10 PPG Its hard to win with no PP. Yes Rolston is not completely useless, but at that price its just ridiculous. Rather than use PP goals scored in the playoffs, why not look at regular season PP ranking? That's probably a better indicator of those teams PP ability and gets rid of a hot or cold stretch messing with the ranking. 2007-2008 Wings: 3rd in league 2008-2009 Pens: 20th in league 2009-2010 Chi: 16th in league 2010-2011 Bos: 20th in league So really only 1 of those 4 teams had a good PP in the regular season. So being hot at the right time on the PP is important, but that's not something you can plan for. Edited July 18, 2011 by Devils731 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Not really. Mair isn't a fighter, he's just a 4th line scrub. You say that in such an endearing way lol...I like Mair, hes a good 4th liner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS-SS Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) Rather than use PP goals scored in the playoffs, why not look at regular season PP ranking? That's probably a better indicator of those teams PP ability and gets rid of a hot or cold stretch messing with the ranking.2007-2008 Wings: 3rd in league2008-2009 Pens: 20th in league2009-2010 Chi: 16th in league2010-2011 Bos: 20th in leagueSo really only 1 of those 4 teams had a good PP in the regular season. So being hot at the right time on the PP is important, but that's not something you can plan for. I see your point, but like you said you can't plan for it, but without the right people on that PP you can't even hope for it. I don't see the player on this team that can step up and make our PP dominant during the playoffs while the other teams had the likes of Gonchar, Lidstrom, Seabrook, Keith etc We don't have a defense-man that is even close to the numbers these guys put out during regular season. I know Parise is back and he can put some goals on the PP, but our problem is at the point, how we move the puck on that PP is not helping at all. Edited July 18, 2011 by SS-SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheprodigy Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 You say that in such an endearing way lol...I like Mair, hes a good 4th liner I don't mind Mair. My use of "scrub" wasn't really meant to be derogatory in this sense - I'm merely saying that he is only a 4th line player and nothing more (i.e. not an "enforcer"). There are plenty of guys out there who can be good 4th liners, because they are not asked to do much. Just play 10-12 minutes a game and try to energize the more skilled players, while not giving up many goals. Mair was pretty good at this, but we have others who can do it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayday Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Boulton - Kovalchuk - Janssen Volchenkov - Corrente Oh man...put these five out just for Avery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I see your point, but like you said you can't plan for it, but without the right people on that PP you can't even hope for it. I don't see the player on this team that can step up and make our PP dominant during the playoffs while the other teams had the likes of Gonchar, Lidstrom, Seabrook, Keith etc We don't have a defense-man that is even close to the numbers these guys put out during regular season. I know Parise is back and he can put some goals on the PP, but our problem is at the point, how we move the puck on that PP is not helping at all. that's because new jersey uses forwards on the point. all this good power play talk is silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Boulton - Kovalchuk - Janssen Volchenkov - Corrente Oh man...put these five out just for Avery The train wreck line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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