Quinn01 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) Ryan Shannon tweeted that he lost rock paper scissors at the gym this morning so St. Louis gets to keep #26 in Tampa. Then proceed to ask his fans what number he should be. Edited July 18, 2011 by Quinn01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS-SS Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 that's because new jersey uses forwards on the point. all this good power play talk is silly. Silly ? Why silly ? Is it useless or do you think that its something of second importance ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Osgood officially retiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Silly ? Why silly ? Is it useless or do you think that its something of second importance ? I think NJ lost 2 of its best PP players in Parise and Taormina early in the season. I think how well a power play does has a lot to do with luck and less to do with skill. It should be better, how much better, I'm not sure, but by the end of the year the Devils were using 5 rookies on the power play - that's not likely to result in much success. Those players should be older and better this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I think NJ lost 2 of its best PP players in Parise and Taormina early in the season. I think how well a power play does has a lot to do with luck and less to do with skill. It should be better, how much better, I'm not sure, but by the end of the year the Devils were using 5 rookies on the power play - that's not likely to result in much success. Those players should be older and better this year. I'm not really with you on this, the same teams for the most part have decent to good powerplays each year. Montreal, regardless of their players, seem to be top 10 every year. Is it the PP skeme or the players. Is shots on goal more important, or passing % (how has gabe not collected these stats yet). There are so many variables that you start to believe it is luck...but then again most Poker players don't believe in luck, they believe in variance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) I'm not really with you on this, the same teams for the most part have decent to good powerplays each year. Montreal, regardless of their players, seem to be top 10 every year. Is it the PP skeme or the players. Is shots on goal more important, or passing % (how has gabe not collected these stats yet). There are so many variables that you start to believe it is luck...but then again most Poker players don't believe in luck, they believe in variance. Montreal was 13th in PP% in 2009. Their rank in shots/60 at 5 on 4: 2011: 9th 2010: 3rd 2009: 10th 2008: 5th http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2010/9/7/1669012/how-good-is-your-power-play There's a large skill component but a large chance component. And Devils fans have observed this in 2009-10, when the Devils' power play was 2nd in the league halfway through the season, despite being nowhere close to the 2nd best power play. Washington, as his illustrative example having a great power play in 2010, was ranked 16th this year. But they had the 3rd best shot rate. But the larger point is that while there is a large skill component, 5 on 5 is more important than the power play, and 'power play skill' is difficult to locate. I expect NJ's power play to be in the top half in shot rate. Whether it can turn that into a lot of goals, I'm not sure. Also, passing % is not tracked by the NHL. Gabe doesn't track anything himself (as far as I know), he scrapes the NHL website for his information. I'd be seriously doubtful that passing % would be more predictive than shot rate. Edited July 19, 2011 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS-SS Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) I think NJ lost 2 of its best PP players in Parise and Taormina early in the season. I think how well a power play does has a lot to do with luck and less to do with skill. It should be better, how much better, I'm not sure, but by the end of the year the Devils were using 5 rookies on the power play - that's not likely to result in much success. Those players should be older and better this year. Well I am not saying that we sucked on PP because we used the wrong players (we actually had no choice to use these guys). Like you said we were using 5 rookies on PP, but this IMO doesn't change the fact that we need a PMD for the 5 vs 5 and that guy can also significantly help on the PP. Also IMO everything in sport has a certain amount of luck in it, but our PP needed much more than luck. We are disorganized and we are static on it. I hope that Taormina is our solution and that he can help at the point. Otherwise I really think we needed an addition at the blueline this year. Edited July 19, 2011 by SS-SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Calm down everyone... just look at Boston... they won the cup and were like what... 2/567 on PP in the playoffs? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayday Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 People look way into stats. Too many people, myself at times, look into a players stats and assume either positive or negative things about the player. I'm not saying stats don't mean something but their looked at and opinions are made solely off them. For example, 50+ goal scorer Jonathan Cheechoo JUST got a contract! Fourth line centers have AMAZING faceoff % even though their playing 4th line minutes. Again this is all in general. Clearly if your 0/20 on PP its bad. If your -101 in your careaar you need to tweek something(Kovy ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmajeski06 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 People look way into stats. Too many people, myself at times, look into a players stats and assume either positive or negative things about the player. I'm not saying stats don't mean something but their looked at and opinions are made solely off them. For example, 50+ goal scorer Jonathan Cheechoo JUST got a contract! Fourth line centers have AMAZING faceoff % even though their playing 4th line minutes. Again this is all in general. Clearly if your 0/20 on PP its bad. If your -101 in your careaar you need to tweek something(Kovy ) And stats go right out the window when that -101 player scores the GWG in Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I didn't feel this warranted a new thread but it is Devils (Albany) related... http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/fireice/comments/brylin_might_return_to_devils_organization_some_day_but_probably_not_as_a_player/ Lamoriello said restricted free agent forward Stephen Zalewski and Nathan Perkovich have re-signed, but RFA defenseman Maxim Noreau, “not yet.”There are reports, however, that Noreau might be jumping to Switzerland to play again for former Devils coach Kevin Constantine on Ambri-Piotta. Constantine coached Noreau on the Houston Aeros in the AHL when he was in the Minnesota organization. The Devils acquired Noreau from Minnesota for center David McIntyre in a June 16 trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) i don't like it, but it would clear up the potential logjam in albany. NJ would keep his rights. Edited July 20, 2011 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayday Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 And stats go right out the window when that -101 player scores the GWG in Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals. If his mistakes don't cost you prior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmajeski06 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 If his mistakes don't cost you prior. This is true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Wow, Dubinsky looking for $5 million per season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmajeski06 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) OT, but figured it didn't need its own thread...and this pretty much is the offseason banter thread: Happy 1 Year Anniversary for the Kovy Signing + Rejection!!! The biggest Roller Coaster ride of emotions I have ever felt as a Devils fan. http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Happy-anniversary-Ilya-Kovalchuk-contract-rejec?urn=nhl-wp9422 Edited July 20, 2011 by mmajeski06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanity_gallops Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 OT, but figured it didn't need its own thread...and this pretty much is the offseason banter thread: Happy 1 Year Anniversary for the Kovy Signing + Rejection!!! The biggest Roller Coaster ride of emotions I have ever felt as a Devils fan. http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Happy-anniversary-Ilya-Kovalchuk-contract-rejec?urn=nhl-wp9422 Looking back, not sure why we were ever worried... SD assured us that Kovy would sign with the Devils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Looking back, not sure why we were ever worried... SD assured us that Kovy would sign with the Devils. Hahahahaha. Making an early run for next years funniest poster? You've had a couple good ones lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BelieveinBrodeur Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Flyers signed a AHL goalie(Jason Bacashihua) Making room for the Flyers to trade a depth goalie... Who's that? Bob or Leighton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Patrick Lalime has retired. I remember when he broke into the league with Pittsburgh and had the record for most games before a loss. I think he went 14-0-2 or something. Also, he was unbelievable in 2003 at times... Unless you have Jeff Friesen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Renhockey #devils Bradley Mills 1 year / 525 000 (2 way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamtheprodigy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Renhockey #devils Bradley Mills 1 year / 525 000 (2 way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 #NHL new. #Rangers Brandon Dubinsky has settled with the club on a 4 year deal believed to be worth 16.8M. His AAV for cap is 4.2M Avoided arbitration...damn, kinda wanted to see some bad blood form on that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMONPETEYD Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 That is a little high for a guy who hasn't scored 25 goals or topped 55 points in his career. I would have expected 3.5 - 4 tops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 That is a little high for a guy who hasn't scored 25 goals or topped 55 points in his career. I would have expected 3.5 - 4 tops. Same here. This guy has been pushed as having tons of potential by the Rags but haven't seen it yet. He was supposed to be their #1 center of the future, but I guess the Rags signing of Richards is kind of admittance that they no longer think that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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